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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389822 << they can afford it. unlike the us. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389800 << nb, turns out only like 600 or so. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 06:22:15; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389489 << would it make sense to do this with edge-per-file and filenames on the edges?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389784 << you know, ~he~ wrote his own lispy v. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389782 << dude what in carnation are you on about. conde nast and money ?! wut ? 100k is their yearly budget for all of jezbel, you plan to churn out 10k attention whoring, vaguely concern trolling 500word pieces ? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388910 << and to think i was trying to gently guide the keyid in question to enlightenment ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388975 << a million goddamn fucking times this ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389171 << i have floor-to-ceiling mirrors, on which i use expos liberally for maths lessons for the girl and alphabet lessons for the kid ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389544 << i would also dearly like to hear about the setups people have in place for hacking on this codebase ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389489 << would it make sense to do this with edge-per-file and filenames on the edges? ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389453 << let me tell you, the look of astonishment, disbelief, and 'omg my priors' on $admingurl's face when i told her i valued publishing the ssl piece under my own name so highly that no terrestrial rag could afford to buy it from me was udderly priceless ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389731 << quite ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389383 << this is spiffy ☝︎
punkman: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389596 << so like a rotor reimplementation ? << more like some rotor automation to try various builds and lets you know what compiles or not ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389596 << so like a rotor reimplementation ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:34:33; punkman: mod6: my goal is that someone who doesn't really know much << wouldn't this guy be better off downloading a signed binary?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389587 < no. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389566 << actually it was really pleasant. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389555 << incidentally, could all the flags be covered in .conf ? ☝︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389489 << ok that's great. << this ~is~ a nice looking graph ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 01:10:38; mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 : i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need to just execute the build script -- if you have to execute either of the rotor.sh scripts, then something went wrong.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389541 << i did have to run the rotor by hand. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389489 << ok that's great. ☝︎
PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389165 << the MSU Chemistry department is decidedly standardized on chalk. We had these nice 1" thick chalk, was great for drawing molecules you could read from the back of the lecture hall ☝︎
mod6: <+trinque> I will probably be out all day tomorrow, but the next day or sometime next week will work for me. << no rush here. i'd like to dig into this sometime next week.
mod6: <+trinque> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-01-2016#1384068 << I designed the makefiles to take a BUILDER variable, of which there is currently only rotor. ... << for now, as far as I'm concerned, this is totally ok. we'll have to worry about other *nix's after we perfect getting linux x86-64 done with a CD to boot also. ☝︎
mod6: <+trinque> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389272 << there's some tweaking I'd like to do, would be happy to have your thoughts on the thing when you're able if you see other improvements << yeah, please, if you have the time, i'd really like to work with you to help us not only get the makefiles updated with the latest V and other things, but to also figure out all of this stuff. ☝︎
mod6: <+trinque> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389199 << certainly, I'd be happy to host it << outstanding, thanks! ☝︎
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-01-2016#1384068 << I designed the makefiles to take a BUILDER variable, of which there is currently only rotor. perhaps this is the place to add an openbsd builder, which could apply unofficial patches as they are necessary after V press ☝︎
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389272 << there's some tweaking I'd like to do, would be happy to have your thoughts on the thing when you're able if you see other improvements ☝︎
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-01-2016#1389199 << certainly, I'd be happy to host it ☝︎
punkman: mod6: my goal is that someone who doesn't really know much << wouldn't this guy be better off downloading a signed binary? ☟︎
mod6: <+hanbot> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389355 << if this isn't already a standard example, anyone feel like talking me through this option jungle? (starting v99996 for the first time) << so i think all that is really required here is `LC_ALL=C ./bitcoind -myip=A.B.C.D -addnode=W.X.Y.Z &` ☝︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ftr mod6 : i ended up with two rotor.sh scripts, one under rotor the other under rotor/test2 << yeah, if all goes well, you should ~only~ need to just execute the build script -- if you have to execute either of the rotor.sh scripts, then something went wrong. ☟︎
mod6: what's the cannonical makeclean, rm -rf * in /rotor ? << yeah, i would just blowaway the entire 'rotor' directory along with all the V stuff. the stuff that I would save is just the .wot dir, the keys contained therein, and of course, your ~/.gnupg stuff (ofc. have backups etc (this is for everyone who blew their keys away once)) : then totally restart the entire script.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> You must install 'bc' on your build machine << ah, ok.
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> mod6: 99996k built and running. back to scarfing blocks. should be synced early next week. << ok awesome, glad you got it working
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2016 00:23:19; BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/l2oplLE.png?1 << No matter how much you try to appease hamplanets there's always that that's too fat.
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2016#1389517 <<< Sadly it seems everyone in America feels entitled to make manufacturers do as they wish. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/l2oplLE.png?1 << No matter how much you try to appease hamplanets there's always that that's too fat. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> punkman: i wanted to cry for the world i'm bringing my children into when i read 'current social consensus'. then i remembered that you have to get caught first ! << this is also rank nonsense , of the http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-that-bitcoin-is-a-sovereign/#comment-116288 ilk
hanbot: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389355 << if this isn't already a standard example, anyone feel like talking me through this option jungle? (starting v99996 for the first time) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: <punkman> "To suggest that responding to such acts by a teenaged daughter (14 going on 15 years), by spanking her with an object, would be educative or corrective, is simply not believable or acceptable by any measure of current social consensus." << indeed, gotta encourage the nudes :P << rank nonsense. beatings are quite educative, in practice.
punkman: "To suggest that responding to such acts by a teenaged daughter (14 going on 15 years), by spanking her with an object, would be educative or corrective, is simply not believable or acceptable by any measure of current social consensus." << indeed, gotta encourage the nudes :P
pete_dushenski: "It came to the attention of police when the daughter showed bruises on her buttocks to two of her girlfriends, who in turn reported what they had seen to the school principal." <<
pete_dushenski: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1511.06410.pdf << 'better computer go player with neural network and long-term prediction'
mircea_popescu: <phf> asciilifeform: check it http://glyf.org/tmp/trb-transition.png << p neat, but why is the shiva stuff connected ?
funkenstein_: "look at the statues, entirely different people." <-- it what things look like that's important?
hanbot: <mod6> just want to make sure you're not stuck. << looks to be puttering along nicely for me, ftr.
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388986 << rattan ftw ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379781 << so 'getinfo' will always show the same regardless ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 18:12:41; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388376 << lulz. /me wonders if this "would-be defendent" resides in tmsr~
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388865 << My gut reaction is it is one persistent reddit user known in California Bitcoin circles so amazingly probably not ☝︎
shinohai: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/12127067/woman-says-she-is-a-cat-trapped-in-the-wrong-body.html <<< maybe she's single guys!
mircea_popescu: http://funcall.blogspot.com.ar/2009/03/not-lisp-again.html << actually this is splendid, as a narrative. esp the part about derivatives.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ah nm, it was the x86 flag << yeah.
ascii_butugychag: http://imgur.com/rRWxCi3 << re: chalkboard thread. the one i have here.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> try just korsgaard << i guess you could try this
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1389021 << i was going to suggest this but figured i'd keep reading logs to see if someone beat me to it :D ☝︎
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsyJX3sESjs << that!
ascii_butugychag: http://imgur.com/a/hMs4a << who wants to guess how this happened
mircea_popescu: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GreenspunsTenthRuleOfProgramming << check out the lulz, incidentally.
mircea_popescu: Slashdot Media, which owns the popular websites SourceForge and Slashdot, has been sold to SourceForge Media, LLC, a subsidiary of web publisher BIZX, LLC << o check it out, moar spam.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388421 << of course nothing would prevent us at this stage to take either gnudiff or any shell diff, gut it, make it into proper vdiff and forget they ever existed. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388410 << or that satoshi said a bunch of dumb shit, a fact both obvious to the naked eye and plainly admitted by the repentant perpetrator himself. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388394 << current wisdom is mere dos through resource exhaustion ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388381 << dude writing that formed his ideas about the world watching cheap tv entertainment. "chinese" is this sole guy, very polite, slanty eyes. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388379 << lmao that is pretty much the picture-perfect image of what makes any lawyer retch. ☝︎
hanbot: mod6> the one I just posted? << yeah
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388982 << how's that ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388601 << /me is astonished this needed articulating ☝︎
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388847 << done https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/693136384710840321 ☝︎
thestringpuller: "And minoritycoins will be worth much less than majoritycoins, because they are worse in every practical way. They take longer to confirm, fewer people accept them for payment, they are protected by less hash power, and they are much more difficult to transact safely." << Not if majority coin is sunk early on and money flees to minority coin. What "actual" economists is this d00d hanging out with that "vetted his scaling propos
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388495 << 'rat9' is ~c$170... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 13:20:42; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388189 << i must say also that this is not why i wrote it, originally. this was an attempt at an online debugger, so i can interactively play with tx in mempool, issue db queries, etc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388324 <<< the end point, of course, whether is obvious or not, is to fix the half-assed braindamage that are the coin scripts. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388373 << if you're syncing, try `-connect` ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388376 << lulz. /me wonders if this "would-be defendent" resides in tmsr~ ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> this will have to be dealt with << doesn't seem terribly hard.
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388299 << this is actually not a half bad idea for a sort of "sauron" mode. ☝︎
mod6: is this the one? https://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html << MIT?!?!
shinohai: <.<
mircea_popescu: <ascii_butugychag> ideally a vtron ought to be able to apply ANY well-defined operation << quite this, tho we might have to get there in steps.
mod6: <+ascii_butugychag> ideally a vtron ought to be able to apply ANY well-defined operation << ok sure, this could be a separate feature of V i guess... have to think on this.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> thestringpuller: sacrifice a goat to satan << It's heretic apple, gotta sacrifice satan to a goat since woz is gone.
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 13:27:00; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388268 << absolutely not, the very notion is a violation of vtronics. NOW on the OTHER HAND - human-powered 'gardening' of the vtree is a perfectly fine thing. notice how mod6 is doing a splendid job of it. BUT conceivably it is also possible for archaeologists to take all of the orphaned crud i ever pasted and come up with a correct vtree
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388269 << this is an issue more or less in suspensiopn atm, at the fundamental level. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388260 << there shall be no further fucking referencing. ☝︎
mod6: ascii_butugychag much appreciates the labours of mod6 << alf, you've put in a lot of effort too, and we all appreciate that very much.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hey mod6 how would you rate working with b-a vs working with job people ? are we just as enervating ye t? << this beats anything else I've ever encountered by a wide margin.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 alrighty, seems it's teh consensus here. << ok lemme put this together, and will post in here for you guys to review, and people to test.
mod6: <+ascii_butugychag> i still don't get why a vtron should use the net at all << I'm open to well defined explicit ideas here.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> why can't it be populated by hand ? << how can you populate by hand while the script is running?
ascii_butugychag: <+mircea_popescu> for one thing, you might wish to run v with diff wotsets. << YES! ~somebody~ GETs it
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388210 << yeah, i will. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the script ~must~ reference a .wot directory somewhere outside of the entire rotor build area. <<< wait wut ?!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388202 << why do the usg-tards look so much like attention whoring hipsters these days ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2016 06:06:33; mod6: "Eventually we can migrate the whole RPC orchestra to this." << seems reasonable.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2016#1388189 << best first step. ☝︎