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mircea_popescu: o hey, i hadn't noticed that they DIDNT LIQUIFY

asciilifeform: but i think mircea_popescu gets it

mircea_popescu: o good grief. must i include all the 0s ?

asciilifeform: ( and if it didn't -- it ain't hard to determine it mechanically . i will leave it as exercise how )

diana_coman: this is why I said earlier "check endianism at runtime" because yes, in ada you can get that

diana_coman: I suppose the "patch" would be to check endianism at runtime and use the correct constants as it were; I ...still don't see why should I have endianism in there to start with

diana_coman: and I don't quite see why wouldn't keccak operate on input bitwise

asciilifeform: diana_coman: as your proggy is currently written, it is only sensitive to endianism mismatch between the inputs and the endianism of the machine on which your proggy was built ( i.e. in which the round constants are stored ). this is not curable at the program level .

diana_coman: if I understand correctly what you mean by that, yes; basically to start with: I'm not sure that a. as it currently stands you'll get same hash for same input on little vs big endian

asciilifeform: i'm still looking for what is

diana_coman: I know, I wrote them to not be

asciilifeform: i'ma read diana_coman's proggy and come back .

mircea_popescu: but in practice, it turns out i get ffa and other things, because my friends love me even more than i love myself.

mircea_popescu: fuck that. i do not set any knobs or put them in.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: this part i cannot cure , hashing as it stands is an exercise in voodoo

mircea_popescu: i am of a very good mind to forbid non-concepts like "byte" in computing in the first place.

diana_coman: but I admit I am not 100% at ease that all the scramblings result in same thing; and moreover yes, I don't see the reason WHY it should be there

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform look, she dun sleep well and i can see why not.

diana_coman: I will just store them as array of bits

diana_coman: phf, the newly published chapter 7 in eucrypt is the keccak sponge but it turns out that I'll still change it from inside out for next week

spyked: mircea_popescu: sent a couple of pingbacks to trilema, seems to have worked (though I don't see them, it might be that they're currently in the moderation queue). output and script at http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LZVEr/?raw=true lemme know if they show up anywhere in your wp

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1775994 << thanks hanbot. I'll grab this and try to press with it starting with version 99994. We'll see what happens. If all is well, then will also try version 99993. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: sooo i just discovered i somehow am missing tyhe images in http://trilema.com/2015/fuck-you-and-your-stupid-epub-also-david-thornes-2nd-book-it-isnt-really-very-good/ ?!

mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not proposing here that romania is somehow respectable or has a clue ; or that X random dork is my butt buddy now. all i'm saying is, "look yonder in the reservation for mongoloids of this particular orc breed, the pantsuit kid is getting his head punched in!"

diana_coman: I guess that might make him more sincere than the others but not in any discernible way a better option as far as I can see

diana_coman: ugh, that codrin stefanescu was at some point with glorious ideas ~="all I care about is that my family is doing well, the rest doesn't matter"

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> here's one example : he calls it "the most serene republic of bitcoin", which was the style at the time. but in practice we omit the bitcoin part most often than not don't we. << If I recall there was a moment somewhere involving miner retardation where there was a discussion of the necessary subordination of Bitcoin to the Republic. Bitcoin's need of a republic is not necessarily reciprocated and all.

mircea_popescu: i do not expect us army could actually come out of a field encounter with ro army as things stand right now ; but then again http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1775860 ☝︎

asciilifeform: i meant attempted ukrization, rather than necessarily that particular result. but yes

mircea_popescu: but to be resolved by the group in question, neither i nor putin nor whatever papie mache in washington is going to decide this for them.

shinohai: I like waking up to good news!

mircea_popescu: all i can say is http://trilema.com/2016/o-hey-is-it-november-yet/

shinohai: It's official, I cannot make sense of Romanian before coffee.

hanbot: meanwhile asciilifeform's vtron on hold until i get python on server, nfs apparently eschews

a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 03:07 mod6: maybe I can try to make a quick genesis of this to see what hanbot is seeing.

mod6: im not sure if i have a favorite, but those purple leafed plants are really eye catching to me for some reason

mod6: maybe I can try to make a quick genesis of this to see what hanbot is seeing. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-21 19:23 hanbot: hey shinohai, what is wp-patch2.diff in the mp-wp hosted @ http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/wp-mp.tar.gz ? i see no sig, no...from where/whom is it?

mod6: where can i get the wp-mp vpathes?

mod6: hanbot: i'd be happy to work with you to figure out whatever went wrong there.

mod6: i just about killed myself falling on some blackice in the driveway.

mod6: i gotta update my wot

shinohai: My God, I think they are running out of marketing points.

mircea_popescu: ah i thought this is new.

shinohai: I got "we need futurama suicide booths" out of that.

ben_vulpes: well i'm terribly outta shape, will spell theses out better

asciilifeform: i confess that i eggoged on this article

mircea_popescu: yes, i get it, but it's not what you say there!

ben_vulpes: why stop in the womb is what i'm driving at

a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 03:32 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-23#1774906 << publish it sometime ; and also since on this trinque i'd like to use whatever wot.deedbot uses to spit the round svg graph to make a "trilema article links" thing. can i get it somewhere ?

ben_vulpes: phf: i too have reproduced your vdiff fix for the too many open files, log is at http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NQg1z/?raw=true

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i pictured something moar lumberjacky, with gigantic saw

asciilifeform: hanbot: i'd like to know how you got '.orig'. afaik this only happens when merging is enabled. no vtron i know of , enables it

ben_vulpes: i have never seen this wonder myself

hanbot: inquisitive sort, what would i say?

hanbot: here's an example: i've made a genesis of mp-wp by vdiffing against an empty dir of the same name; this when pressed results in all desired files + copy of each file appended with ".orig". leaving aside that i don't even currently know why the fuck this happened, never seen it before in a press: i don't even know what to point out to ascertain that this is in fact NOT what is supposed to occur! if i was teaching a girl to do it, and she were the

ben_vulpes: i suppose.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i think the q was, whether this is put into writing properly somewhere.

hanbot: if i want to understand what a genesis is, how it is made, independent of trb, say

hanbot: i've read this.

hanbot: despite high volume of high quality lit on V, if i want a frank discussion of just it (technically rather'n politically, if we presume these can be separated, and esp re geneses rather'n patchworx), not crystal clear where i'm going to go --no single exhaustive repository, etc.

asciilifeform: there is not so much any more of 'called in general'. tho i do get occasional wardialer to this day.

asciilifeform: also fwiw ~every spammer i ever heard through a phone, knew my name

mircea_popescu: the discussion here is carried statistically, not "exceptions". i haven't picked up a phone in decades.

asciilifeform: i suspect that main enemy of mircea_popescu's weapons systems is tropical damp, rust. the other enemy seems to prefer 'soft' liquishit to actual action, for whatever reason.

mircea_popescu: shinohai hey, i spent more on weapons systems than computers this year, for the first time since republic.

mircea_popescu: i deplore the archeologists of the future ; for whatever they do they shall be wrong.

asciilifeform: the ones seen at parades -- old. but i suspect they dun much vroom, or otherwise the statistic would do its work neh

mircea_popescu: ooooh i see, OLD is it.

lobbesbot: Logged on 2016-01-23 23:05:59: <diana_coman> I suppose on really short ones there isn't enough time for all the faffing about anyway; the io thing is 100secs in my books

mircea_popescu: "how to program if you cannot" is an absolutely fine soundbyte ; and correctly descriptive. but reading the stuff it is mouted in, i can't help but think maybe he meant something entirely else than what it self-evidently means.

asciilifeform: errrytime mircea_popescu says this, i find myself trying to picture a pre-bitcoin republic, and end up with mental eggog

mircea_popescu: for the record, i find it impossible to discern sense and nonsense in this dijkstra article, they're so tightly coupled together.

mircea_popescu: ah i recall you said

trinque: runs at UTC midnight, and I may have broken it when I added mircea_popescu's requested vdiff of each svg

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have nfi re the relation, but iirc you introduced veen as a meatspace l1

mircea_popescu: i have no beef. it's what it is.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so ? a principle is not "this thing i believe while it pays me to do so"

asciilifeform: but i have exactly 0 idea.

mircea_popescu: dooglus yo, i like you, but at some point you'll have to choose between sticking with the stockholm syndrome and moving on with your life. i'd like to hear it explicitly ; and for that matter so would you.

mircea_popescu: !!rate DicePower -1 tried teh anal child behaviour, didn't do anything for him. by all means, "he just didn't try it the right way", i'm sure.

mircea_popescu: anyone recall that ? "o hey, it got gigavps kicked out of bitcoin, but i don't know any history so why the hell not!"

asciilifeform: actually i think i'm done, mine's smaller by far

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shit, give it a minute till i finish, it doesn't do the name per line thing and we'll end up confused.

trinque: that was before I snagged it from ... RagnarDanneskjol

mircea_popescu: !!rate funkenstein_ -1 i can't even recall what exactly he got butthurt over, but has been hoovering ever since trying to affect the specific sort of libertard aloofness that makes it all okay in their religion.

TomServo: I'ma comin'.

mircea_popescu: " Been here since 2012 I think" <<->> "Next is likely getting a copy of mp-wp up and running, posting some fg test results."

mircea_popescu: so what's with the glacial pace, i dun get it.

mircea_popescu: TomServo i guess.

TomServo: mircea_popescu: Been here since 2012 I think, prolly got some more years left.

mircea_popescu: what the fuck am i gonna do about mike_c.

mircea_popescu: "i sold 60 btc back in 2011 ; nothing came of me." pshaw.

mircea_popescu: very much apologies for the noise ; wut can i do.

mircea_popescu: jesus fuck i have nigh on 400 ratings, this is unseemly.

ben_vulpes: i am clearly witless

shinohai: lol I think covertress wound up getting lost at sea, after the switch from ETH to Proof-of-Stake failed spectacularly.

mircea_popescu: !!rate jcpham -1 fucktard that showed up early and proved to be useless ; got butthurt over his attempt at paintsuit injection being rebuffed back when i was trying to ROTA, has been hoovering ever since trying to affect the specific sort of libertard aloofness that makes it all okay in their religion.

mircea_popescu: sorry ben_v, i cauhgt dylsexia from the young sluts.