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NoSatoshisHear: So, come on, how many BC do you really have? Not like you could ever answer, but you are really not Satoshi, and really are the Romanian guy I looked up under IEEE?
NoSatoshisHear: Damn, I so want to tether, but I have morals unfortunately.
NoSatoshisHear: sorry, text talk, plus not editing my own shite leads to unclear communications. I know better, english professor grandma taught me proper diction, though I am lazy.
mircea_popescu: NoSatoshisHear oh i see. verbs help you know!
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 22:43 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776346 << i suspect his idea is "ideally, nothing". in any case foundation has not managed to keep up with the rest of the pie despite periodic prodding.
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776478 << in the "journal of negative results", china thing went ~nowhere, i had some 6-7 notional meatsacks try to use irc, one managed to reg a key and then fell off the map; now waiting for bisp to come online to host on republican terms ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hanbot hey, make a mp-wp install for the young'un ? i've a mind to publicly expose her.
NoSatoshisHear: so sorry, came back for 'splaining... since I usually make no sense without lots of context.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 21:19 NoSatoshisHear: so, I may make a fun shitcoin for lulz. I like the hellcoin idea. The block gets awarded to the last 10 suckers^h^h^h^h^h miners that put a "realcoin" into the chain. We start at $100 and let people "mine" with coins, last 10 when the timer ticks down get the block.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776441 << i'm unsure what this means. what does this mean ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776348 << this is a much deeper problem anyway. emmylark chick is like "do you have a preference" re windows irc clients. i don't, i don't run windows. "what should i run ?" "err... we'll talk of this later, slut". which is fine, she's used to "you're too dumb to be told this story yet", EXCEPT in this case it's not her that's too dumb. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776346 << i suspect his idea is "ideally, nothing". in any case foundation has not managed to keep up with the rest of the pie despite periodic prodding. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: lobbes sadly thaty book is not availablew in my country ;/ i wonder if you could buy it for me and ship it!!1
NoSatoshisHear: I worked on digital coin in 2001, but tried to find a non-net solution, and finally just gave up. When you head the wrong way, you don't get there. Still feel stupid for not buying in at $5, but I had no interest in Silk Road. ☟︎
NoSatoshisHear: still wonder if I mean Satoshi at one of the parties with Tim May and James A Donald and some of the other early coiners. I was surprised to find peeps I hung with in SF...
NoSatoshisHear: yes, will do a real ID, just flaming some crap right now. I have my main server back for repairs, so when it comes home I will do the do.
asciilifeform: i'ma bbl.
NoSatoshisHear: try and even get the hdmi spec, I'm still looking for a "dumped" version. Love the ethernet spec they built in...
NoSatoshisHear: 30 minute timout shite, though I did see the key may have leaked and someone had an uploader.
asciilifeform: which is why i do not see the various diy attempts to disable the particular ME, as interesting in any way
NoSatoshisHear: so, I may make a fun shitcoin for lulz. I like the hellcoin idea. The block gets awarded to the last 10 suckers^h^h^h^h^h miners that put a "realcoin" into the chain. We start at $100 and let people "mine" with coins, last 10 when the timer ticks down get the block. ☟︎
NoSatoshisHear: I worked on ICH7 and ICH8, fugging bugs out the ass in ICH7...
NoSatoshisHear: I'll be damned if they didn't put that bastard into my sacred north bridge! The intel management engine...
NoSatoshisHear: was pretty cool getting to be in the architect meeting. They introduced the FU chip in 2004 as a seperate processor. I so voted it down. It sounded like a spy chip and it was.
NoSatoshisHear: you get a percent of the profit every quarter, I started at 25% of salary, and got a 10% bump at 1 year, some 20 year+ doods have 2000% multipliers.
ben_vulpes: "dump trucks of money every two weeks" is how i heard it described one time.
NoSatoshisHear: I have, came last summer, fugged around, left with a copy of trb to play with, will make a real name and gpg id in the near future....
asciilifeform: NoSatoshisHear: reg with deedbot; i'll rate you
NoSatoshisHear: ffa, some cool stuff, making a braindead c one just cause I can learn better. Sure wish I could pour some fast multiply hardware, but don't know enough prolly.
NoSatoshisHear: ya, i'm an idiot. thx for the !up
asciilifeform: and for thread-completeness i gotta point out that 'Until the day Bitcoin mining uses up 50%+1 of all electricity generated on planet Earth, this theoretical avenue remains open, if very theoretical' isn't necessarily guaranteed : there always remains ( because Hashing Is Voodoo (tm) ! ) the possibility of discovering shortcut to the mining process ( we had the 'satcoin' thread; possibly other variations on the theme also )
mircea_popescu: i don't mean it was a historical event ; just as a counterfactual.
asciilifeform: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : that was my only hypothesis. i haven't another.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am well persuaded http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/#footnote_2_56073 was actually satoshi's nobel/oppenheimer moment. "o noes, this is bad because i have not the balls to live!"
asciilifeform: btw i'm still waiting for anybody to try to defend the original shitoshi sync behaviour, somehow
asciilifeform: but the up/down sides of this method are i think obvious
mod6: for instance, i have a R610 running with ssd, and when doing eatblock (sucking in all the blocks cut up via cutblk), I can process like 15k-20k blocks per day. more importantly, the IO timings are WAAAAAY lower.
asciilifeform: btw i'll mention again a simple method to speed up sync (to a point) 1,000x or moar -- signed hashes ( a la the programmable checkpoint thread from 2yrs ago ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: i.e. screamingly short of the system requirements
asciilifeform: spinning rust, at this point i dare say, is like running node on 486
mod6: I'll hold off on sigs until i can confirm with ssd.
mod6: My node got with 140 blocks, then promptly fell back behind about 400-500. but this is caused by my dedicated node running on spinning rust it appears. when i get a moment, I'm gonna call the DC and see if they'll throw in an ssd in there for me. that should cure it.
mircea_popescu: 2 was not actually stated by anyone, i'm just saying for the record.
trinque: I don't see that.
trinque: I don't propose "changelog only"
mircea_popescu: 1. the idea to have "changelog only" patches as a signature device is a major departure from how v worked previously, it semanticizes an item that we only recently even introduced ; 2. the idea to have patches that are deliberately non-compliant so "they won't be mainline" is a solution to what i thought an inexistend problem -- why not maintain special "experumental" keys for the purpose instead, l;ike sane people ?
ben_vulpes: makes for a neat delineation between patches baked in an angry stew and those selfsame patches read in the cold light of morning and possibly even reground by others as "this works, and i propose it for inclusion in the trunk"
mircea_popescu: i suppose the idea here is to turn this into a semantic device ?
ben_vulpes: i'd rather have people chose which node on which to base their patches themselves, based on their own judgement of the quality of the priors, otherwise there's a new axis of promisetronix in play
trinque: I was supposing that experimental patches would not touch changelog, patches meant for release would edit changelog
asciilifeform: e.g. 'i ran node with this for 60 d, and it worx , nomoar fallbehind' etc
trinque: ben_vulpes: macroexpand my statement to "I am not adding maintaining my own wad of chosen experimental patches, regrinding them each time there is a mainline release"
ben_vulpes: yes, i do.
ben_vulpes: was a pretty neatly surgical fix, i gotta say
trinque: I intend for deedbot's node to always reflect current trb's behavior
asciilifeform: nowadays i dun see any reason not to mainline it
asciilifeform: trinque: indeed i marked it as experimental. did not know if, e.g., prb would shun the patched nodes, say
asciilifeform: ( i.e. does it have the sync retardation cure )
trinque: I do not have a hypothesis yet
mircea_popescu: oh, i missed some sarcasm did i
trinque: I just fired a garden variety tx and it confirmed in the next block, 0.0005 fee
asciilifeform finds the 'tx references outputs of old tx, rather than addrs' to be a profoundly trisomistic shitoshiism -- but we can come back to this at next 'trb-i' thread
asciilifeform: but i'll agree that 'empty' is idiotic way to describe it
asciilifeform: i gotta ask : how didja generate the txturd
trinque: I don't see that he does anything to transaction parsing there
trinque: though I don't see how he'd have borked tx parsing
trinque: totally possible it's in the polarbearded portion. I'm digging
trinque: appears I've got a bug
trinque: hm, I have a transaction for which trb considers the CTransaction "vin" vector to be empty, but which clearly has an input.
mircea_popescu: i do and i still can't ;/
asciilifeform: ( i dun have a greppable trilema here, so can't immediately say where )
mircea_popescu: hmm, where the hell is the place where i say the father's responsibility to his daughter is to shove a pound of raw prime beef down her throat every day and naught else ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2015-08-11 03:24 asciilifeform: 'ONE way of feeling infallible is not to keep a diary. Looking back through the diary I kept in 1940 and 1941 I find that I was usually wrong when it was possible to be wrong. Yet I was not so wrong as the Military Experts. Experts of various schools were telling us in 1939 that the Maginot Line was impregnable, and that the Russo-German Pact had put an end to Hitler’s eastwards expansion; in early 1940 they were telling us
asciilifeform: oh hah i misparsed 'got 0' lol
asciilifeform: if we wrote like arabs, there've been no controversy, i bet
asciilifeform: i'll spoil it for littleendian :
asciilifeform: fwrite(&i, sizeof(i), 1, stdout);
asciilifeform: int i = 0x01234567;
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the 'guillotine neck vs mandible', if it ain't obvious, i'll spell it out ftr : bigendian nums look 'ffaistic' when hexdumped, i.e. correct . littleendian -- you gotta mentally flip'em. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: how i regret it! every day i mourn it! they wounded me so very deeply, these idiots, with their idiotic misbehaviour! to the very core of my being i suffer for their failure to have ammounted to a hill of beans!
mircea_popescu: awww. so that means i can say whatever and nobody has any ground to stand on and argue "his" way ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i hatetobreakittoya, but WHOLE FUCKING pseudoengineering kompyooting thing, is 'whisperproduct'
asciilifeform: i dun actually disagree with mircea_popescu : i never liked bigendianism . but it did come from a particular cost analysis , ftr. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: if there were a costless thing, by all means. but "between saving for six months to afford the thing i need and "buying" this other thing i don't need on easy rates i choose the former" though ?!
mircea_popescu: i do noit dispute it does cost, but so does this other isnanity.
asciilifeform: ( it ain't impossible. but i can't immediately think of an economical method )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to see your algo for 2s-complement add/sub for a hypothetical box where sign bit is not the senior bit
hanbot: the issue i had yest was *all* files got a copy named filename.orig
hanbot: mod6 there should be one orig, is in the mp-wp i was handed
asciilifeform: i'll confess , i'm with mircea_popescu on this one, how much time is spent printing and testing sign bits ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't understand the argument. so you write left to right, so what does this say ?
mod6: ben_vulpes: yes, i found this one in the genesis: +(function(A){A.widget("ui.draggable",A.extend({},A.ui.mouse,{init:function(){var B=t
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'philosophically consistent' ( hey kurchatov! ) method is: little-endianism . but with it, you're stuck loading a whole parcel to test its sign bit ( i dun give a fuck, personally , on modern iron ) but -- unless yer an arab -- flipping words prior to printing , in the civilized style, left to right
mod6: hanbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/HrKA1/?raw=true << Here is what I know, for now. There are some comments at the bottom.
mircea_popescu: wait wait, i might have a pill ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( i recommend to diana_coman and even to mircea_popescu to read the linked doc )
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't go so far as have to, but it is a fact it'd help me in this point.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ugh, I'll have to put in those link for selection, won't I
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i would right now like to, for a great piece i'm writing, link to "The choice of Ada as programming language for this implementation" specifically out of all http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/01/25/eucrypt-chapter-7-keccak-sponge/ because that's the sort of fine tuned context linkage i use. wut do ?
asciilifeform: i described the two known pills ( without endorsing a particular one ) against endianism. afaik there is not a third.