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asciilifeform: and then parallel construct, 'never happened', 'anonymous stoolie told us where the cocain was buried'
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that 'imsi catcher' is an artifact specifically of the bureaucratic side of usg. intercept at the tower, where the bits hit a land line, is trivial and no one has to leave his chair - but the paperwork is annoying. hence squaddie and 'catcher' ☟︎
trinque: they're well conditioned to chuckle about "govt sees my dick pics"
trinque: who would, the consumers?
asciilifeform: and why does anyone give a fuck re: gsm encryption? it uses a toy 1980s algo
asciilifeform: what's to keep the enemy from simply walking around with a proper commercial tower business end
mats: encryption to none such from a tower
asciilifeform: i don't get why they would necessarily have to exhibit anomalous behaviour
mats: detects things like downgrade attacks or anomalous tower behavior
decimation: asciilifeform: I think the latter is the usual method
asciilifeform: (or - more likely - are 'catchers' laughably poor stand-ins for traditional tower?)
asciilifeform: or, one that is too 'loud' ? or in motion ?
asciilifeform: mats: how's that work? detects any tower seen at ground level?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214249 << astonishing hipster idiocy. just like, e.g., 'hemingwriter'. ('let's make laptop shaped like typewriter! that'll bring western civilization back!') idiot cargocultists. 'let's omit all, even the few useful features like 'who called' from cell phone! that'll bring the 1950s and american industry back!' ☝︎☟︎
punkman: mats, are any of the osmocombb phones still manufactured?
decimation: although classical gsm is a bit difficult to demodulate
decimation: but yeah, if you want to listen to gsm, buy an sdr rx
asciilifeform: but original link concerned a trick using standard gsm protocol
decimation: because of the interesting nooks and crannies one might find
decimation: actually I suggest a much better idea: reverse the baseband cpu and software
asciilifeform: and usually the various knobs of the radio, if you can read cn or ru and have patience to find datasheet
asciilifeform: buy the modem, and you are ~guaranteed~ to get to talk to the modem
decimation: if your building the root fs on your phone, gotta talk with the actual radio somehow
asciilifeform: article is about 'here is a cool trick, but google's phones won't let you access the modem, buy an old phone'
asciilifeform: mats: this explains nothing
mats: I imagine that the author spends a lot of time tooling around in cyanogenmod
asciilifeform: just buy the modem
asciilifeform: so why bother with the 'phone that won't let'
decimation: yeah nearly all modern smartphones still use the 'at commmands' to control the 'baseband' cpu to my knowledge
trinque: though if it's a matter of my strange I'll worry about it then let the rest know the fix if I find it
asciilifeform: mats: ' it’s no more available unless you use some very old phones/firmwares ( on most devices they removed the ttyUSB serial interfaces to send AT commands to the GSM modem as well ).' << explain to me why this trick requires a phone. i have a crate of gsm modems here, they all have serial lines and take hayes AT command set
decimation doesn't understand how gentoo could fail to build something
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah lemme dig up the link
asciilifeform: did i miss in the log ?
asciilifeform: trinque: what, exactly, happened there
trinque: even my gentoo is apparently too strange to make it through; god help os x
decimation: but I suspect it's too fucktarded to work right
asciilifeform: that way they will be built once and cached, for a given buildroot working dir
asciilifeform: conceivably the three deps ought to be a package each ☟︎
asciilifeform: this way it will magically get onto any buildroot-linux that is built (e.g., pogo)
asciilifeform: the next step will be to turn 'rotor' into a buildroot package properly speaking (like all the various packages that come with buildroot)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: anybody who wants to use a specific version of gcc, will find a knob for this in .config
asciilifeform unzips, pisses on the grave of glibc
danielpbarron: punkman> I can make tea with it. also eggs. << heh, in Eulora it's specifically called a "multifunctional samovar"
asciilifeform: ;;later tell hanbot http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000133.html
asciilifeform: they are quite like ordinary barnacles, the kind found on ships ☟︎
trinque: in other words, if theo holds back scraping barnacles at all, he's doing them a disservice as well as himself.
phf: punkman: i work with iranians, and they, like russians, cook a tea concentrate in a teapot and then you dilute it from a kettle before serving. i used to use tea strainer but i switched back to russian method. this way i can drink tea for hours on end :> samovar is best in that case because it provides a constant supply of warm water
asciilifeform: (from the standpoint of everybody who isn't us here)
trinque: lost on most is the value of being yelled at by a learned person. ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 00:47:49; mircea_popescu: people need to learn to be A LOT MORE intolerant with these schmucks. yes, there's always going to be flies ready to land on the oxcart and talk about how "they"ve been plowing, and explain how plowing goes
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214543 << i agree. and this is how, e.g., phuctor, 'didn't happen' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 00:46:43; mircea_popescu: trinque this is to my eyes the #1 problem atm. theo de raadt is doing decent work, but he's barnacled by idiot X Y Z ? check. the kids here, found a legit vulnerability i'm sure, but are they packaged by anon idiot ?
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 00:42:29; mircea_popescu: anyway, so i guess this is what the response to the b-a shattering of the vessenes scamfoundation is, get the tardstalk retards together over in maryland to start over.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214534 << they are simply imitating mit, the way small-time crooks slavishly imitate famous mega-sc4mz0rz ☝︎
punkman: I prefer to use one of those strainers that fits in your cup, since I don't usually have tea that benefits from boiling
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214525 << let me know once you tried it. so far it works on two reasonable machines. ☝︎
punkman: traditionally you just throw tea or herbs in while it's still boiling
phf: actually i'm hating for no good reason, i know that in africa they cook tea in ibrik, but i've not had much practice with it. know they also use a lot of sugar and mint
phf: i assume a teabag is somehow involved..
punkman: I can make tea with it. also eggs.
phf: of course you can't cook coffee with a samovar, nor make tea with ibrik, so it's apples and oranges anyway ☟︎
phf: punkman: samovar has a source of heat builtin. traditional models will have a tube in the center, that's used to burn wood like http://magazin-samovarov.ru/upload/medialibrary/3e9/%20golxwmp%207.JPG
punkman: do you have a magical samovar that doesn't require source of heat?
assbot: Coffee machines :: Turkish Coffee Machines :: Hovoli 1000s - Turkish coffee machine - FreshCoffeeShop ... ( http://bit.ly/1D41vEn )
phf: ibrik still requires a source of heat, and next thing you know you're trying to buy a hovoli machine from turkey ☟︎
punkman: I'm partial to the uncomplicated ibrik
danielpbarron: right now most of our tasks revolve around that damn thing
danielpbarron: ah that's kinda what it looks like in Eulora
phf: danielpbarron: that was a picture of a samovar in meat world
decimation: I think it's fucktarded to expect the owner of a newspaper has no opinions on the news
decimation: "t. The top editor in chief and the editor at Gawker resigned in protest, claiming that Nick Denton had done exactly what he had promised previously not to do in setting up an editorial staff to insulate him and “the business side.” "
danielpbarron: shinohai, what is a samovar in the meat world?
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sa9Sog )
scoopbot_revived: Gawker Media Shutters National Security Blog Less Than 4 Months In http://qntra.net/2015/07/gawker-media-shutters-national-security-blog-less-than-4-months-in/
nick_thunderdome: why thanks bingoboingo
shinohai: Real thing danielpbarron I can't play games worth a damn
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2015 21:23:27; shinohai: Every time I follow ascii_field's instructions I have to get out the samovar for tea.
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2015#1214285 << wait are you a Eulorian or is that a real thing? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/symbolics/genera/User_s_Guide_to_Symbolics_Concordia_Book_Design.pdf << trinque: let's go after indesign
shinohai: No longer do i need to work and repay loans, blockchain does it for me.
mircea_popescu: if it gets you to give him money good and if not maybe someone else.
mircea_popescu: shinohai it's not actually something. just words on a twitter account.
phf: i'm pretty sure i can get it to a point of "unzip folder, double click"
phf: pulling those tars at 100kb down took most of the time ;)
phf: i've got the makefile (that's how i was on last time) to do a clean build, i'm rebuilding right now with smg hosted files
shinohai: Is it just me, or does this sound ridiculous: https://twitter.com/CCartelBCR/status/625812975086137344
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 00:08:55; ben_vulpes: i dun mind the phones. voice travels in plaintext of necessity.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1214482 << i don't have the time or patience to talk to people over the phone. worst fucking medium ever. if you like the girl why isn't she naked in your lap and if you don't why is there sound. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: btw phf whar is that crapple binary! we need mushrooms!
mircea_popescu: none of this bs "i do 99% of the work and then thhis shithead comes around and wraps it in diarhea".
mircea_popescu: in the end this is exactly equivalent to the end to end encryption thing we're doing.
mircea_popescu: more importantly, gotta know how to open your mouth, and say "stop talking about me you contemptible clod, you don't know enough to shit out the right hole"
trinque: which is for most people 100% of the time.
trinque: certainly, gotta know when to keep your mouth shut.
mircea_popescu: tolerating this shit is exactly how western civilisation failed.
mircea_popescu: people need to learn to be A LOT MORE intolerant with these schmucks. yes, there's always going to be flies ready to land on the oxcart and talk about how "they"ve been plowing, and explain how plowing goes ☟︎
mircea_popescu: allowing this sort of parasitism is actually worse than not doing the work in the first place.
mircea_popescu: trinque this is to my eyes the #1 problem atm. theo de raadt is doing decent work, but he's barnacled by idiot X Y Z ? check. the kids here, found a legit vulnerability i'm sure, but are they packaged by anon idiot ? ☟︎
trinque: mircea_popescu: the fuck, fuck, someone get a bullshit press release out dept