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mircea_popescu: for a coupla hours five times a year, such participation as'd befit the bad name his culture got.
mircea_popescu: surfer beach, you know, miles of perfect ocean, some dudes hanging around, *ping* there's us consumertard in his house pants, chips crumbs in his lap, "o hey dudes, how's the surf ? hurr durr" half hour later, *ping* he's disappeared, with the firm notion that he "participated" in "surfer culture"
mircea_popescu: hurr durr, if the soccer mom / couch dad could possibly do this irl, they'd totally teleport various places while seated in their livingroom couch.
mircea_popescu: no but i mean the fucking lameness of it. dood's got a "well rounded internet experience", he's got a mortgage and a boring wife and a boring job and a hp he bought at the store, and he "logs in" for a coupla hours four times a week or w/e. every nine weeks and a half we pop up again in the rotation, he's done 4chan, reddit, facebook, whatever, "i wonder what THOSE zany kids are up to these days".
mircea_popescu is getting intolerant of the whole punkmanist/indiancandy style "o hey, maybe they forgot?!"
mircea_popescu: either fix yourself to fit in or else stop bothering to come by, because the next time you do one of these ima just block you.
mircea_popescu: we don't give a shit about your persona. for one thing it's not even remotely acceptable, let alone cool.
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 you keep doing this number whereby you drop by now and again to expose us to your magnificently solipsist persona.
mircea_popescu: but... they didn't use it, and it doesn't work anymore, and they're quite happy together.
mircea_popescu: you'd think someone'd notice if a tool they actually used went away.
mircea_popescu: and it shows ; google has become, steadily but acceleratingly, worthless for research. i pointed this out, but the sum total of pantsuit complaints, summed again to the closest integer, is also zero.
mircea_popescu: the sum total of "internet users" from the "informatrion superhighway" who sat down at any point since 2016 going "hmm... i wonder what my opinion of this hanno bock character should be. let's do some research..." is, rounded to the closest integer, zero.
mircea_popescu: sure ; meanwhile consider this : the article the fetlife bot keeps linking to the fetlife tards ISNT in the top 20 of the month.
mircea_popescu: that's what i like about idiots, that they're determinedly idiotic. rarely you run into amateurs, it's generally pros all the way.
mircea_popescu: schmuck will actually take the time to boot off a different interface, will however NOT take the time to address why he got banned in the first place.
mircea_popescu: im guessing the manager holds on to them ? or yuou want a separate treasurer ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: mod6 traditionally board membership changes are voted by the board.
mircea_popescu: and if it does, it does you the great favour of rescuing the future you'd have poured into something that, in the cold light of day, wasn't worth it.
mircea_popescu: i'm going out on a limb here. i get to say what are teh trifles.
mircea_popescu: it's a sad fate to ~act out~ your own life, of all things.
mircea_popescu: people tend to (stupidly) eschew taking photos of the important moments of their life, and then many years later they're left with meaningless albums of circumstantial bullcrap irrelevant to them.
mircea_popescu: im sure there's some poor africans in a center for businessmen "owing" each other trillions in notional btc as we speak, what's to keep 'em.
mircea_popescu: joecool "talking about bitcoin, even in a group, does not..." etc.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i guess once the eucrypt adventure is sealed a cover letter re ada-c integration may be a good idea, for future reference.
mircea_popescu: aite, so write the piece up, bb is around so it can be quick
mircea_popescu: joecool ahaha qntra is not publishing dumb shit about "probable creators of bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so basically a rut is shaping up here, "use gpr from adacore -- gnat / others dun actually work" ?
mircea_popescu: joecool im sure it is. gpg -aer bingo and p.bvulpes.com
mircea_popescu: so you basically have to chain them, gprbuild then gnat-make the objects or what ?
mircea_popescu: amusingly, much in the vein of "all lugs tumble the same in the lug tumbler" point from before, this is ~almost exactly~ how it works in fiatlandia too. a week's worth of hairpulling and lost nights and so on.
mircea_popescu: hey, is this actually you lot's first start-up note stage thingee ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 is it open for others ? or are you happy to keep it narrow for now ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, 11 btc is actually a huge first round. you can always do an a round later.
mircea_popescu: and with that, there you go : have mod6 and asciilifeform each pay in 10 btc, have the foundation give out 1 btc also, making a total of 11 ; give tbf and the equity partners a seat each for a total of 3 ; have ben_vulpes and BingoBoingo get stock warrants monthly on some sort of agreed upon scheme and there you go.
mircea_popescu: and to ben_vulpes that you will not allow the natural and understandable desire of strive avoiding to guide you into nonsense, but will firmly commit to clearly and openly discuss problems.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: gullible fool that i am, i will even allow myself to be seduced into living the 5th point ; on conditions : to asciilifeform that he principally sticks to a timekeeping and scheduling method of his design, at the bare minimum the proverbial chess clock and corkboard ; and subsidiarily that he gets the girl to take a (~candid!~) shot of him with the instruments sometime this week. give the girl a camera, have her take a bunch,
mircea_popescu: and yes, this is what would probably be a fine solution here, you taking warrants. if the equity value goes up you're obviously entitled to profit ; and otherwise... well... more work to do.
mircea_popescu: i'm not saying your work is worthless ; i am however saying it's a difficult to price category.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this is an iffy point in that it's hard to guess how palatable this'd be to the equity.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i thought it was more of a "umm... more of these ? ya ok."
mircea_popescu: in other words, there's no need to provision for "impartially" ahead of time, as you have a (working, proven) mechanism to realise that jit.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing intrinsically wrong about wearing different hats. a situation can be seen from different perspectives, why not.
mircea_popescu: quite literally, "measure to so and so is coming before pizarro board ; ben_vulpes is voting x, mod6 is voting y, foundation should vote z according to so and so considerations..."
mircea_popescu: mod6 nothing prevents you from discussing it publicly. "here's the issue before the board, here's what i think foundation should do, here's what ben_vulpes thinks it should do, this is what we'll be doing, comment"
mircea_popescu: the reason you made that a draft is so it's drafted upon neh.
mircea_popescu: so restructure the deal, have the foundation put in a bitcoin, get a seat for it, put a coupla bitcoin each of you, get a seat for it each, or whatever's convenient.
mircea_popescu: but i also think it's sensible for people involved to contribute capital privately.
mircea_popescu: i don't think it's undefensible in the least to say "well, item x has to work, we can't deny it capital, so we're there in the front line". which is kinda what it came to.
mircea_popescu: so there's necessarily nothing wrong with foundation being equitably involved. now, how much... well, this is more of an open question.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1784999 << there is, at the very least, a defensible strongline in there : "since the foundation is entitled in 1 per thousand from all income in tax, it is necessarily acceptable for the foundation to invest 1 per thousand of capital in any and all ventures, as a matter of principle. that chairs may opt to eschew this for many is a practical matter at their disposal".
☝︎ mircea_popescu: mod6 you can't have multiple managers. there has to be a guy that stops the buck.
mircea_popescu: 16358287111888959696680983838486196055353569.308466978, for the mathematically slow.
mircea_popescu: from the civillian pov, "yes, it's all the same". meanwhile 1% summed over ten thousand iterations, which is what civilisation is, comes to... guess.
mircea_popescu: the problems of governance is that you're stuck choosing between 50% loss 55% gain and 48% loss 56% gain sorta deals. there's no "solutions".
mircea_popescu: a mix. what can it possibly produce, what do you think this is, the cartoons ?
mircea_popescu: "which is why he sent his henchmen to break both his arms and each finger ; it has nothing to do with impudently ignored warnings."
mircea_popescu: "mp is medically illiterate and hates random doc's guts".
mircea_popescu: ah. yes, there was a year and a half long utter shortage of amphetamine. what can you do.
mircea_popescu: but, for his wasted "coin", back in a day before coin was even invented, yet wots still existed, mp also knows as a factual, rather than guessed matter, what all is down that road.
mircea_popescu: for his sins and youthful naivite, mp sided with the exceptionalism view way too long.