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funkenstein_: anyway it appears we all share
that kind of background
funkenstein_: though I can't claim
to have gone
through all of
them in great detail
funkenstein_: well lately it's been going along
the lines of you name
them and I order
them
ascii_field: the only solutions fall into
the broad categories of 'moar channel' or 'less meat'
ascii_field: funkenstein_ et al:
the basic quandry is
that communication channels are scarce and very crowded.
ascii_field: just
the fact
that it was probably determinable with great certainty at age 7 or so
that i wouldn't grow up
to be mircea_popescu
jurov: will it enable yo
to make analog channel
to arbitrary ip adddress? i'm all ears :D
jurov: ofc but it's not accessible
to you
funkenstein_: jurov, at some layer,
they must be analog right?
trinque: as for myself, I was more dead
than alive when I plopped into
this world, so
this is all bonus
time
trinque: ascii_field | on
third hand coming out of alien chest, i readily recognize
that i probably ought
to have been killed at age 7 or so << plenty of intelligent people had all kinds of health problems; surely
there are reasons other
than "fit as a viking"
to live
jurov: funkenstein_: shannon would apply if
the intertubes were analog
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 14:36:04; asciilifeform:
they would much rather
that everyone announce, for usg's ease of snoopage, when
they are beginning
to speak, and
to whom, for how long, which order
the bytes lay down in.
ascii_field: on
third hand coming out of alien chest, i readily recognize
that i probably ought
to have been killed at age 7 or so
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 16:31:35; jurov: how
this does not depend on hidsight...
trinque: absent a giant safety net, life itself will do
the culling
trinque: and if
they don't have
the luxury of making
that decision, *shrug*
trinque: jurov: as for
the culling, wouldn't
that be up
to
the parents
that clearly decided
to let you live? heh
trinque: if it's free, you're
the product!!
jurov: how
this does not depend on hidsight...
☟︎ jurov: mp: "kids must be culled properly" me: "i'd be culled easily" mp:"then
these
thought you were retarded should have been culled"
mod6: ;;later
tell hanbot check msg
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 12:19:55; shinohai: It's interesting
to
think about. I just like
the summary of Christianity - which, because I live in
that "One Nation under GAWD" I get rather sick of hearing
the masses go on about.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 12:13:43; jurov: every
time i asked how, eventually it boiled down
to depend on retroactivity
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mircea_popescu: dude check it out,
the year gets experimental verification.
phf: using linux kernel as
the base allows for rapid repurposing of cheap chinese computers, without having
to write drive controllers or general kernel hackery. in case of suckless it was probably more
to do with audiocards and inertia. at
the
time when
the suckless project started, it wasn't yet obvious how compromised kernel will eventually become,
the reaction was mostly
to userspace retardation
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, in
the entire history of human
thought
there have not been produced 9, or for
that matter 1 gb worth recording.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 04:16:03; asciilifeform:
there ARE NOT 9 GB of useful src
trinque: seems like db's config script had environment data leaking into it from
the underlying host
trinque: just one of
those "right knob"
things
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 03:59:36; asciilifeform:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217395 << if i have
to ship a bootable linux iso, buildrooted for
the purpose of building a) self b) bitcoin - i will. in fact, yes, i have
this up my sleeve, BUT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
TO USE IT instead of retarduntu etc
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the only way
to solve
this problem is of course ppp, ie pay per packet. and
the only way
to even run an internet at all is as a blockchain, which is
to say mempool and all
that.
jurov: they don't want anything
to do either.
mircea_popescu: why are
these
things on
the internet ? i do not wish anything
to do with any of
them.
mircea_popescu: much like i don't make kids,
the women make kids. i just kill some of
the kids
they make.
mircea_popescu: i don't solve problems. i just
throw away other people's solutions.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but yes, it was practically shown
that a) no actual protection from ddos exists, outside of
the ostrich method discussed above and b) udp is
the key
to
this state of affairs.
☟︎ jurov: were
they reolved by banning a protocol?
mircea_popescu wonders if he's
the only one
that remembers
the major spammer-ddos wars of a few years ago.
mircea_popescu: you can send
them via dpaste for all
the difference it makes.
mircea_popescu: mkay. i wouldn't be
too worried about her fate - it'd cost usg more
than it'd cost me
to ditch udp.
mircea_popescu: i get it, you want a woman
that's
transparent and doesn't bleed.
mircea_popescu: i never comprehended
the "anonimity" securityt posture, but whatever.
mircea_popescu: decimation except he didn't like
the fact yu gotta say where you're sending stuff "because usg snoops it"
decimation: at any rate,
the problem isn't udp or
tcp, it's
the fact
that ip packets route without any signature
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
there can
trivially be gossipd-over-blockchain.
mircea_popescu: yes, im sure
the idiots "writing software" and "deploying apps" will soon write more crud and deploy more crap
decimation: is
this new udp-like protocol acceptable?