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a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 17:36 asciilifeform: the only way to detect overflow on risc-v is the algo i used in ffa.

asciilifeform: d00d is pretty good i dare say at askingquestions .

phf: given the general going ons i wouldn't mind "basic instinct of manhood" as a kind of working baseline, to improve upon later

mp_en_viaje: (when i'm sick -- you'd better be there with the soup!)

mp_en_viaje: i expect the "observe whore, invite to work for me" is more like a phase in sexual life of adolescent.

mp_en_viaje: phf, i spotted lots, mostly getting the butt pocket. nfi why people kept wallets in there in the 80s

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i think there was briefly an era of 'easy' creditcard, when given like candy, in bush 1st term. nao gone

phf: when i was a child i wanted to be able to catch a pickpocket, in the process, and then invite him to work for me (i'm not sure doing what, but you know build a team of highly skilled thieves or somesuch), kind of like how it was in the opener of Thief game. unfortunately by the time i actually had money to cary, it didn't seem like a particularly interesting idea

mp_en_viaje: i knew women with >dozen in active use

mp_en_viaje: not even. "maybe i misplaced it". people have lots.

asciilifeform: hm, i pictured it was a serious thing, in orc world where proper cash is still in use errywhere

asciilifeform: i did not go in any standing-room public transport, with the exception of short train ride in bucharest

asciilifeform regaled with endless tales (3rdhand, naturally) of pickpockets by various folx, severely 'overengineered' his pockets, for travels, and felt quite foolish on occasion , 'ok before i pay, let me do this here stage magic with cloth', 'no it aint up me arse' etc )

mp_en_viaje: phf, there is such a thing as a snatcher, and such a thing as a pickpocket. though... social behaviours serve social purposes. "it's dangerous!!!" for instance works very well for selection. anecdote : ro consul introduced pretty girl, intern at embassy. over sushi she confessed her unimpressment in local boys, "i was walking down candeleria and these dorks were lke o no, it's gotten dark, it's dangerous and soon enough made themselves scarce. wel...

phf: short of direct robbery i'm always mystified by this thieves thing. thank you, i utterly lack spatial awareness and if not for your warning i would've had this wad of cash yanked straight outta my hand!

phf: i thought they were a macho culture though, seems like it would be "zapadlo" to make woman protect your possessions for you

mp_en_viaje: i fully expect that aspiring middle class adolescents do this as a courtship thing, dood asks girl he fancies to "hold on to his wallet" in her purse or something.

mp_en_viaje: to warn her not to go with purse open like that, there's thieves! to which i retorted that theres nothing of value in there anyway, which completely blocked her.

mp_en_viaje: also, you know, very matriarchal structure, somehow. anecdote : bought some i dun recall what from respectable (and very competent, and eager to do well) middle aged woman in shop. as we left she called girl back, all worried like,

mp_en_viaje: utterly terrible. i nearly bought one for its cargo cult quality

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: well it wasn't a museum piece, was printing out a coupla mil in old-fashioned paperbenjies per minute. but i get the idea.

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i meant the current item, the blessed ipad where yellen adds the zeroes

asciilifeform: i suppose it is for sitting and shouting 'biznis!!' , per trinque's picture...

asciilifeform: i can't think of who or why

mp_en_viaje: i mean, the ottoman before the bed. yes. yes ofcourse. but this ?

mp_en_viaje: btw, in other lulz : the "executive suite" here has corner desk. in case i'm you know, so used to my vp corner office i would fill remiss without the L item.

asciilifeform: funnily enuff i ~did~ see the printing press.

asciilifeform: troo, i never saw what's in obummer's briefcase also.

mp_en_viaje: i can see who'd go for a kidnap as an activity.

phf: in 2009 or so, if you did ue at night, there was always a person who was body aware, who would've heard of parkour or was practicing it. shit, half of america was doing parkour in the 05? 15? i don't remember

mp_en_viaje: phf, but i have my doubts they ever saw the underground mags. for one hand, half of them hand made, for other in french

phf: actually, yeah! it travels, sometimes directly sometimes indirectly. i mean, there's definitely a direct connection between 1990s parkour and early 00s missile silo photography

trinque: I would've said this in jest of soviet perceptions of AMERICA (TM)

mp_en_viaje: phf, i suspect this nver happens, "evolve into one another". seems t ome it'salways 100% new biostock

asciilifeform: then gotta be the traditional 'i do what i want' orcism

mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, 0 detectable usg influence in ANY way i can see

phf: oh yeah, scenes have that property discussed in thread about opensource, once it's named it's over. i'm actually more interested not in the scenes themselves, but in how they evolve one into another and how differrent scenes influence each other. something dies, gets replaced by some mutation of something else resurrected, or rediscovered, etc. etc. etc.

mp_en_viaje: and when i tell the girly there "when you are told to get cab you get cab" she had BUTS in her schedule!

mp_en_viaje: i suspect the sheer size of town may have deleterious effects. "go over 5mn pop at your fucken peril

mp_en_viaje: i have a new theory by the way. so bogota is ~8mn inhabitants. and there's DISTINCT signs of argentinetardation. but i mean itemized, multiple strands, quite visible. eyt the folk themselves aren't at all similar, not fenotypically nor culturally.

mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, i don

mp_en_viaje: from what i can see it grew each year since pre bitcoin. 2007ish

phf: but i think that it died on the tail end of "asians who were all black outfits made of space materials", which is a kind of postcyberpunk think that happened in the 00s.

mp_en_viaje: dc is a shithole. but... i dunno, im unconvinced by the theory "kids today" = ded. the mass is about as motile as a fish in vinegar, yes. but .. they always were.

phf: actually i don't know! i'm in a bad place, spatially, DC is literally the worst place to keep tabs on this kind of stuff. everything seems dead, but i know if i were to just travel two hours north there's going to be updates on what's happening

phf: well, that's good, cause then i can relax for a bit!

phf: there was that russian team that was breaking into scyscapers in jetsetter cities and taking risky pictures, but i think that died with the rubble crash

mp_en_viaje: well "when did i tstart" is always an iffy q. but to my mind that's the current scene.

BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> they seem 100% unaware us exists. at all. "americano" strictly means newworlder and other than this there is 0 reference. anywhere. << AHA, this weekend I heave heard the word "gringo" more than any other time so far because a New Zealander tried to insist he and I are gringos to a couple of Chilenas, and they Chilenas had to keep telling him BingoBoingo es un gringo, pero the New Zealander was just a very tall, pale asian

phf: oh right right, that was a while ago though, i suspect that photographing ue for livejournal has been a decade long activity. they've just been increasing the boldness

asciilifeform: i always assumed that those are eternal, but simply not in my light cone

phf: there's a strange lul in the scene, because necessary aged youngsters are glued to ipads. and i'm not just being an old grandpa, there's literally a whole generation missing at the outside activities

mp_en_viaje: i think the thing now is "run through abandoned in fac tbut not on books mil bases, take pics".

phf: which was convenient since i didn't really know the area at all

asciilifeform: i did however get to dumpsterdive whole comps. but that was elsewhere, in long-demolished-nao office parks of suburbia.

phf: well, it's because you went there for content :> i was doing socializing with americans and such

asciilifeform: phf: i went to 1 or 2 of those particular meets

phf: there was a fat guy at 2600 meetups in dc (in crystal city, which are unfortunately no more), who was doing infosec for mil and who always had cool toys. i mean coming from moscow in the 90s, all these people casually showing off the $3000 equipment, talking of dumpster diving whole computers, it was kind of like moving into The Hackers. culture ~completely~ dead

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've been quietly looking into 'what's needed in a www server' for a while. good chunk of 'expected' liquishit can be jettisoned without any tears (e.g. requests ~other than~ GET and PUT . fuck'em )

mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, sure, i've no complaints.

asciilifeform: phf: ha, i had nfi a1025 could eat os9. i have 1 (nao sadly dead mb) in the hardware tomb.

phf: you probably want this https://everymac.com/mac-answers/mac-os-9-classic-support-faq/last-macs-to-boot-startup-macos-9.html though i think i used a different table for reference

BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> i can sadly report that ye olde days of raping the chambermaids and somon fumee buffet breakfast are all gone. << Butt the accents are clear and they open their mouths to speak!

asciilifeform: i have a -- what i think is -- 'lombard'. but with ancient and dying mechanical hdd, and it won't eat literally anything in its place, tried repeatedly.

phf: and a powermac g4, that i haven't booted in a while. i'm pretty sure it has netbsd on it though

phf: i don't remember specific designators, a g3 ibook that was a hand me down when i was poor and just came to this country, a g4 powerbook that i bought since it was "last model to run os 9", a wallstreet that someone game recently (i like the "my name is the plague" kind of feel to it, but have no use for it)

asciilifeform: i'll also admit to being curious re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-31#1778337 ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( apparently there is an entire underground of folx trying to patch it to boot on g5 etc... i had nfi until nao )

phf: "walther ppk, 7.65 millimetre. only three men i know use such a gun and i believe i've killed two of them."

phf: i suspect mp knows what powerpc is, in logs frequently, but the common abbreviation is rarely used

asciilifeform: i'm still looking for something that ran that os, that will eat an ssd

asciilifeform: the graphics in particular , i gotta concur with

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-31#1778333 << i actually run os 9 on all of my ppc devices. it's got MCL, simple games, pixel perfect graphics (something i have soft spot for) and shit ton of perfectly workable software. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: how many feckless usgistani boys in business school tell listless, confused girlies from ohio they're saudi princes i could not guess. bu the fambly itself is under 2k.

mp_en_viaje: i dunno.

asciilifeform: prolly; they seem to always follow the familiar pattern of 'i heard from a sailor that he heard...'

mp_en_viaje: i've not seen any. i suspect drug reports to be greatly exagerated

asciilifeform: that's on the sane people planet. on the idjit orc planet, 'loss' is the delta between the fantasy 'i am worth!' and the actuality.

mp_en_viaje: no, but this is fantasy fullfillment wank among the girls themselves, "oh, the gringo paid gordita x 599 and i'm so much better then her so every time i suck it for a 20 i lose out 579". rrrrrheheheheally.

asciilifeform: nao i gotta see this

asciilifeform: i'm unequipped to comment, because i do not consider the sources accessible to me on www, to be anything other than disinfo; and having no line to petroseekritz meself, leaves ~0 ; so cannot add to this.

mp_en_viaje: i suspect everyone's waiting for that global warming to melt the rich north. canada, russia, there's where to find

asciilifeform: orlol just recently ( last wk ? ) put out a claim of 'smallest new petrodiscoveries in any year since 1943' but i have nfi with what he could substantiate such a statement

asciilifeform: although they very much have a point, i.e. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-03#1763155 . ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: omg caught up with logs within the hour ? this was way less painful than i had feared.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-30#1778242 << nah, for one if you set up her bouncer you can read her logs, and for the other it breeds bad habits. she can do it herself once i get around to putting it on her menu ; meanwhile if enough folk complain ima just have her not chan till then ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: but since i did x therefore y follows and so on.

mp_en_viaje: this entire tower is built ou tof things that "i had no idea i was going to make before".

asciilifeform: i'ma have to pass this message.

mp_en_viaje: so ? maybe i have something to say to her.

mp_en_viaje: giraffe that imagines it too could digest lions makes lion's favourite giraffe brand, i expect.

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in entomology, gem , 'Ada is arguably more successful in its domain not because of its ridiculous verbosity, but because it has higher level features, separation of concerns, safety checks, development teams focused on embedded programming, aircraft specialists and programmers working on the compilers, etc. One could still take all of these same Ada experts, brainwash them, and have them (or another team with more sense) i

mp_en_viaje: somehow i had like an inkling tou'll say that

a111: Logged on 2018-01-29 17:24 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Contract start date is Feb 1st, but I am about to poke them to check the wire and see if the racking can start.

asciilifeform: i have not tried, could not get past the gag reflex last time

mp_en_viaje: i expect ada's "works" ~same

asciilifeform: http server ? fwiw adacore distributes one. ( i dun like it, for same reason as apache -- it's a megatonne of gnarl . but, it does in fact work, and benefits from the language guarantees etc )

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-29#1778035 << an ada lamp would need you know, the a and the m. it may be possible to write a sqlizer in ada ; but i have my doubts an ada apache is actually possible. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-29 17:06 ave1: Hmm, I'm using mp-wp and I cannot find a setting that is supposed to scrub links or allow them. I am looking into it...

a111: Logged on 2018-01-29 16:01 asciilifeform: thinking of switching to a 2week interval; these are not coming out quite the way i want'em