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decimation: asciilifeform: surely in ru/ukraine
they have something similar
assbot: Logged on 18-07-2015 21:13:26; jurov: and its brother makovník, best stuffed by so much poppy seed
that it makes you very sleepy
decimation: according
to wikipedia it's not legal
to grow poppies for food seed/paste
BingoBoingo: Back in 1910 US was rotting with
tincures of opium. Now Zohydro is stocked
to
the gills in most pharmacies.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform>
the common belief in ru, i will note, is
that usg involvement in afghan is ~strictly, solely~ so
that ru cities are rotted with heroin << US pretty rotten with heroin
too. DEA pressure on doctors and economy will do
that.
decimation: well, what else are
they gonna grow? dirt?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (cheapest still when
there are armies ~defending~ your fields - e.g., u.s. army in afghan) << Medical poppy in India, Culinary poppy in Eastern Europe, and Recreational poppy in Afghanistan
decimation: I suspect
that usg isn't
too heartbroken over it
decimation: because it's neigh impossible
to scale euv light sources?
decimation: same
thing. I
think
they still grow poppies for us opiate industry
BingoBoingo: There's already opiate shitting e. coli probably it will
take one niche at a
time.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> or for
that matter, let
transgenic e.coli piss out
the active ingredients of
the dope << Soon
BingoBoingo: decimation: If serious
though why go for apparatus designed for "grow"
decimation: well, it appears
to cost 5x up front for roughly double
the efficiency
BingoBoingo: Lighting really doesn't need
that much
time
to roi.
decimation: granted, it's less efficent, but you gotta invest for
the long
term
to make back
that kind of money
decimation: yeah but high pressure sodium is less
than $500
decimation: I
think
they do make LED grow lights but
then you are
talking $$$$
BingoBoingo: Honestly by now I'd expect
them
to embrace
the LED efficienty or build
their own reactors.
decimation: but if you are going
to do it industrially,
than 480v
three-phase
decimation: well, I'm assuming most installations use several of
these 1000w units
decimation: sure, but
to handle
that kind of power you really should use 220v circuits
BingoBoingo: Then change color
temperature
to maximise flowering
BingoBoingo: <decimation> ah apparently
they use 1000w high pressure sodium lights << Best part of spectrum for plant growth.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> poor idiots, broadcasting 'i am growing weed!' for miles << I remember freshman year of undergrad being high as fuck reading about infared indentification of marijuana and not realizing
till I sobered up
that
they were
talking grow lights and not smoke.
decimation: I can't imagine
that
these lights are installed safely
decimation: ah apparently
they use 1000w high pressure sodium lights
decimation: yeah actually if
the conditions are right you could pick
that stuff up from 1000 miles away
decimation: "Being anonymous and
trying
to fly under "the radar" is not easy when you are generating
this much RF interference.
The fourth item in
the
table was 1/2 mile away and still was easily heard on 40 meters.
decimation: hams complain
to
the fcc: why aren't you cracking down on noisy-ass producers?
decimation: to
the point
that
they can effectively jam shortwave for miles
decimation: apparently 'grow lights' are extremely
terrible rfi generators
decimation: who else is gonna keep people off
their bands
decimation: yeah, because usg is
too lazy
to do it
decimation: asciilifeform:
they do more
than just report 'pirates'
decimation: my understanding is
that
the fcc doesn't give a fuck unless it interferes with broadcast radio or aircraft
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: you may also discover
the little 'secret' re: how ham folks keep usg from selling
their spectrum
to
the highest bidder (or most favourite son) <<
The part where cellular is worthless?
decimation: asciilifeform: it's a big deal, hams know
their number is up
BingoBoingo: Sure, but on
the used market
there seems
to be some actually interesting rigs made for it with broad listening spectrum.
decimation: but it
takes years of 'reading logs'
to know what's on
there
decimation: I find shortwave
to be more interesting
BingoBoingo thinks 2 meter band has promise. Still needs
to get radio.
decimation: not all of
them, some are controlled by us corps
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << wanna bet
this will be parcelled out for strictly nominal fee (if any)
to favourite sons? just like fucking radio spectrum << Probably not yet.
This seems like a clean return
to keep
the fire burning. Now later...
decimation: no, you see bitcoin is unusable because
the btc/usd price swings wildly
jurov: lenin,
the first eulorian
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 14:10:12; mircea_popescu: "considering how sparkling he was in english, reading
the flat clumps of russian slag he puts out was quite
the disappointment"
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assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 20:40:56; jurov:
they don't,
they fly in
decimation: but still need human
to execute instructions.
decimation: my understanding is
that
their 'special sauce' is
that
they are able
to print very detailed instructions for slave
to follow
ascii_field: smt parts were not designed
to be placed by hand
ascii_field: 'macrofab' went in
the entirely other direction (using slaves)
decimation: at any rate I"m not sure why anyone would want
to 'startup' electronics hardware manufacturing - especially board-level stuff
decimation: they are 'iterating'
toward a solution, you see
BingoBoingo back in school when needed
to print switched
to "laser" after buying second black scamjet cartridge
ascii_field: the printheads, for instance, are
typically designed
to fail rapidly
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Sure, but now nubbinsisms are apparently being
targeted at lusers