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BingoBoingo: I don't really have chicory around this time of year
assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 06:24:02; BingoBoingo: Wait, you don't drink it all by the pot?
phf: my current goal is to have better compartmentalization, like have a gaming machine (i.e. libretto running dos, i've been unwinding with ~~'95 games), a work machine (i.e. a thing that can run intellij and which is compromised for all the practical purposes) and a b-a machine whatever that evolves into, because i don't think the future of a computer as a progrock moog station is panning out
phf: asciilifeform: i guess i can't seem to find a baseline that doesn't suck in all kinds of obvious and non-obvious ways. for all practical purposes i operate out of a semipublic terminal that i don't own. various attempts to establish non-superficial ownership were unsuccessful for reasons amply discussed here
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: isn't that for old people?
asciilifeform: 'don't shit in the kitchen' is valid, despite different folks having different kinds of kitchen
phf: i don't know what constitutes naked civilian box
BingoBoingo: <trinque> it doesn't run linux binaries, which would preclude buildroot, wouldn't it? << Last week Openbsd killed linux_compat on i386 which is the last platform they supported it on
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-02-2016#1416923 << this girl i'm rather fond of convinced me that it wasn't a half-bad way to spend thirty years while my brain rots building apps for various usg tentacles. ☝︎
trinque: it doesn't run linux binaries, which would preclude buildroot, wouldn't it?
asciilifeform: i don't recall a ~rotor~ trb working there.
asciilifeform: we don't actually have a kernel that isn't fully, certifiably porous.
asciilifeform: phun phakt, seems like 'genkernel' won't allow you to disable flag SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYRING .
mircea_popescu: hence why the meanwhile-barbarianized new yorkers couldn't care less if the nuke plant blows.
mircea_popescu: literally, "thus therefore, i don't see them to clearly", but that "not see clearly" really means, "it won't end up well for them". sort-of like prophet not seeing your future too clearly.
mircea_popescu: i don't see that better.
asciilifeform: since '53 or whenever ulam realized that you don't actually need the fissile firecracker.
mircea_popescu: unlike the qc thing, i can't even say this is not in the cards.
asciilifeform: and it won't cost much, either.
mircea_popescu: ie, anyoen can make drugs and you won't be able to detect them and fuck you.
asciilifeform: (i.e. thermonuke that doesn't require a fissile initiator, ergo no need for refining U)
asciilifeform: i can't personally, with own hands, put a satellite in orbit, either.
mircea_popescu: now, granted, in re the trees, while it stands that you can't do it, i suspect you're right in suspecting it CAN be done.
mircea_popescu: so basically this discussion just became 'explain this to me, and if you do i'll just pretend the explanation doesn't exist"
mircea_popescu: don't flatter yourself. you can't arrange this, and the answer would provably be > petabytes long.
mircea_popescu: and i presume "everything" doesn't suit you.
asciilifeform: remember, i don't deal in inexpressables. or i'd be hanging at the dirigible club with mircea_popescu, and not here in this ditch
mircea_popescu: well wtf, i get the same results from my dog. i don't make the dog a strategist. FOR THIS REASON.
mircea_popescu: oh, he "didn't know" what was in front of him ? that's the definition of blindness. and he didn't know WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ?
asciilifeform: 'In 1990, the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation granted Stallman a MacArthur fellowship. The grant, a $240,000 which is more then $500K in 2000 dollars provided Stallman with a source of income and health insurance for five years. That made it less necessary to do consulting work to support himself. Although RMS now can devote more time to the writing GNU software, but actually h
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how does a man work who can't support himself ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't see the 'no inclination towards work' thing
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that he didn't really psychologically weather the hurd thing.
mircea_popescu: but it also means you needn't worry about it - as a consumer, it'll just be done for you, automagically!
mircea_popescu: the reasoning goes, that if arabs have no way of knowing they're arabs, such as for instance if the use of THEIR script happens transparently everywhere, then they won't be able to maintain a sense of nationality and consequently jena bush's tush will remain unmolested.
mircea_popescu: you don't understand universalism.
asciilifeform: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=108616&start=60#p577538 << far more interesting.
phf: you mean in gentoo parlance? an emacs ebuild doesn't respect -dbus flag, and pulls it unconditionally?
assbot: Logged on 29-02-2016 13:35:07; asciilifeform: 'Do I really have to be forced to use accessibility if I want just the gtk gui? I don't have the time needed to learn to modify ebuild, and keep a separate overlay... I want to use Gentoo, not keep building it forever. Do I really have to accomodate for remote seat to be able to use Gentoo? '
mircea_popescu: PeterL you are aware NOBODY KNOWS what ny water does, not anymore. shit in there that hasn't been touched in 50+ years.
PeterL: It wasn't clear in the story, is the nuclear problem in New York leaking into their water system and poisoning everybody?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, water infrastructure has decayed to the point nobody involved EVNE KNOWS you can't drink from lake then switch to river
asciilifeform: 'Do I really have to be forced to use accessibility if I want just the gtk gui? I don't have the time needed to learn to modify ebuild, and keep a separate overlay... I want to use Gentoo, not keep building it forever. Do I really have to accomodate for remote seat to be able to use Gentoo? ' ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Most of those are conditional dependencies (useflag ? ...), and I checked and all of those with dbus ? sys-apps/dbus) have -dbus or no dbus at all in the output of emerge -p. But if I try and check dependencies on those that do depend on dbus...: ...it appears that if gtk+ with useflag X can't work without accessibility/at-spi2-atk ...'
asciilifeform: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992146.html << fascinating read
mircea_popescu: and what's btc-t ?
b6: The guy on BTC-T claiming he shut down f2pool this week
phf: BingoBoingo: oh i wasn't saying it's harmful, i was saying that when coffee stops working, perhaps it's time to take amphetamines, since it's a cleaner and longer productive high. of course with a history of substance abuse of any kind it is perhaps not a good idea (same people who drink coffee by the litre, start eating amphetamines, etc.)
phf: i thought aa mostly object to other substances only as much as they trigger alcohol abuse. unless you have a history of mixing alcohol and speed, there shouldn't be any crossover
phf: i don't mind the idea, but, if you need this much coffee, why not just take amphetamines?
BingoBoingo: Wait, you don't drink it all by the pot? ☟︎
phf: i have a borrowed carbon x1 that i'm hoping to make use of. guy was running ubuntu on it, and clean slackware install at the very least doesn't exhibit particularly aberrant behaviors
asciilifeform: dual gpu boxes will never work, don't even bother.
asciilifeform: i would have said 'there is a less atrocious machine, the legendary x60' but now i WON'T ...
phf: i gave up because integrated intel card and ati card combination required some fancy grub PEEK/POKE combination, and i didn't want to do grub
DicePower: (which didn't work for some reason)
asciilifeform: (explicitly admitted to in the docs, but somehow 'this doesn't matter')
asciilifeform: almost certainly because the compatibility was a bold-faced lie, and the cpu 'frequency scaling' thing doesn't work.
pete_dushenski doesn't know, wasn't there.
mircea_popescu: i don't care. if it doesn't select correctly on a href anchor it's so broken it wouldn't qualify as a browser in 1995.
mircea_popescu: dun tell me THIS doesn't work either
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 17:13:58; phf: we don't have a way to serialize/deserialize yet, so the point is moot, but probably not for long
mod6: shinohai: cool! maybe take a backup at somepoint before you get to 100% so incase of power-cycle you won't have to start over from genesis.
punkman: pretty sure this was in the logs, but couldn't find it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-24707337
botneko-chan: These aren't so widespread
botneko-chan: Even if I would I wouldn't say, client must remain anonymous
botneko-chan: I don't know who, actually I'm working with another guy that talks with clients
mircea_popescu: at least this fellow i won't have to persuade about the benefits of you know, getting the fuck out of the us.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we don't. but i'm giving moneyz to girls that go topless. why not to guys that live on own two feet ?
mircea_popescu: not that the abstract notion isn't tempting. but i fear it may well be one of those, dwim things.
phf: rms doesn't see вредительство as a problem, but it's also the kind of a problem for which there's no technical solution
mats: libreboot doesn't exclude turds as part of its philosophy iirc
asciilifeform: phun phakt: 'libreboot' won't build without 'unifont'
gribble: kakobrekla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 24 minutes and 32 seconds ago: <kakobrekla> redditards also report Well, the DDoSer(s) are hitting my home network now. Can't use my internet. I have been running a Classic node., DDOS on Classic nodes, DDoS started again. Have a nice day, guys :)
botneko-chan: Don't see him online
kakobrekla: redditards also report Well, the DDoSer(s) are hitting my home network now. Can't use my internet. I have been running a Classic node., DDOS on Classic nodes, DDoS started again. Have a nice day, guys :)
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417563 << right, good point. what other commands aren't candidates for porting? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: afair hofstadter doesn't, at leasty.
asciilifeform: briefly revisiting john young's thing on cpunks, 'full sharing' does not ~always~ take place. the lizards don't give a flying fuck re: a dead snackbar.
phf: we don't have a way to serialize/deserialize yet, so the point is moot, but probably not for long ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but in any case - do not talk to the ones that don't have the official allakhu-snackbar brand,
mircea_popescu: that enough bar is necessarily higher in eastern societies, that aren't quite as fucktarded as anglotwerps, and so here we go.
mircea_popescu: i don't see how this sawed off grenade made for the purpose of convincing kids not to make or use grenades you linked has anything at all to do with the bomb above, tbh.
asciilifeform doesn't buy frozen concentrates, does not distinguish the grades
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking the equivalent of a man who married a street whore, had a daughter with her somehow, and now that the girl's of age being almost 11and a half he is very fond of demonstrating to random passerbys in the street just how unlike her mother the youngun is, through the age old process of stuffing bills in her various articles of clothing as "see, she doesn't even take the stocks off!"
mircea_popescu: then the SOPS goons wanna wonder why people don't give a shit about their nonsense.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417213 << i think we'll have to give up the mp's select thing. it apparently doesn't work well enough, for reasons i/nobody can be bothered to debug, and besides, new ones will prolly constantly pop up. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2016 07:13:15; phf: i don't imagine it matters at the moment, can always shuffle things
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417175 << i support this. the problem with the "easier" approach of "we don't cut whole parts but arbitrary fragments" is that now you not only baked in the fragmentator, which becomes one of your dependencies, but also have to keep track of arbitrary fragments, which are numerous (this is why replacing one file at a time, while dubious, is at least not involving MORE mov ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417147 <<< this is so much like the "munca patriotica" bs you wouldn't believe. ☝︎
punkman: ben_vulpes: second part isn't needed, sasl happens before the client can join anything
ben_vulpes: punkman: yeah, a bool there doesn't make sense because it's used as a number of processors.
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#0266 << what does it mean for `nLimitProcessors = nGenProcLimit` to be passed as the argument to WriteSetting? an implicit test returning a boolean doesn't make much sense to me as a value for nLimitProcessors
ben_vulpes: punkman: wasn't that forever ago? or is there a new case
phf: big buffer ensures i can send big function over wire and tinyscheme doesn't barf
phf: yeah no reason why it wouldn't work from there..
phf: i don't imagine it matters at the moment, can always shuffle things ☟︎
phf: i only ride 'em, i don't know what makes 'em work.
ben_vulpes: yeah i imagined that running buildroot wouldn't make sense on a bsdalike
BingoBoingo: http://www.t-platforms.ru/about-company/press-releases/625--25022016.html