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asciilifeform: whether it is done with udp as such or raw ip (i.e. udp with protocol field set to 666) is immaterial
asciilifeform: decimation: as i said, not so much hardware to support
asciilifeform: so long as we have a cpu, a nic, and a block device, we're golden on the given set
decimation: and there's no bootstrap scripts as far as I know
decimation: well, use as bitcoind hosts
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217314 << bitcoin is - necessarily an operating system. sad but true. you lot ought to be thankful that it is not just as necessarily a ~device~. ☝︎
decimation: seems as though linux and osx and bsd use different 'attr' functions
mircea_popescu: yup, that's the only time so far 3 appears alone as a factor.
decimation: heh yeah. apple makes up standards as they go
mircea_popescu: decimation check it out, they need a metalocale. hopefully implemented as multibyte too!
decimation: it's kinda the same question as "what's apple gonna do with $60b"
decimation: nobody has offered to buy the thing for $2b as far as I know
mod6: so i guess there is still a bit of a fork in the road; even if we do all of the hard work of ensuring peoples host dependantcies are installed before any compiling is even attempted, do we even want that to be a thing, as stan said, this is now obsolete. And do we now maintain a lot of other things for buildroot?
mod6: i think he's as tired of our build script problems as I am.
mod6: well, i've been pushin pretty hard as far as work load -- what scares me is taking on buildroot and trying to bundle/test the entire thing.
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 22:58:15; mod6: How one builds the source is entire up to the user. There may be preferred way so of doing this, such as 'rotor' and so forth. And we'll participate in creating cookbooks and guides on how to do this. But we no longer are going to fight through these environment problems.
BingoBoingo: So transaction orphanage not as clean to cut out of 0.7.2 but done. Bitcoin running. Now to see if it catches up.
hanbot: you're fighting a strawman, really. might as well claim "nobody could truly own a cow". they just take the milk is all.
hanbot: for as long as they stay there i doubt anyone cares.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 00:56:55; trinque: BingoBoingo: an excellent perspective on the news as ever.
BingoBoingo taking time to nuke ophanages from 0.7.2 ish Bastard block annihilator pretty much works as ascii offered it.
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 23:05:49; mod6: Trying to create a one-size-fits-all script for everyone to use to build this thing is not going to work. And how does one bundle up something such as 'rotor' and end up not maintaining buildroot and everything else? That's a game that I'm not interested in playing. And it's dangerous for us to go that direction.
trinque: BingoBoingo: an excellent perspective on the news as ever. ☟︎
ag3nt_zer0: oh austin... both places are on my list as possibilities to reside if I make it back from my trip
BingoBoingo: linux per se doesn't seem to be the problem so much as linus, as traditionally implemented is
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 22:58:15; mod6: How one builds the source is entire up to the user. There may be preferred way so of doing this, such as 'rotor' and so forth. And we'll participate in creating cookbooks and guides on how to do this. But we no longer are going to fight through these environment problems.
trinque: I'm curious why these guys don't seem to have considered using openbsd as a basis
mod6: Trying to create a one-size-fits-all script for everyone to use to build this thing is not going to work. And how does one bundle up something such as 'rotor' and end up not maintaining buildroot and everything else? That's a game that I'm not interested in playing. And it's dangerous for us to go that direction. ☟︎
mod6: How one builds the source is entire up to the user. There may be preferred way so of doing this, such as 'rotor' and so forth. And we'll participate in creating cookbooks and guides on how to do this. But we no longer are going to fight through these environment problems. ☟︎☟︎
trinque: as far as I can tell their business model is extortion
jurov: as it was said earlier when boost was discussed, either it gets used or some crappy homebrew replacement
jurov is sad to label 2002 stuff as ancient
jurov: yes it is posible to place it as fixed X child window but then it's forever limited to linux/X
phf: mircea_popescu: in the duct tape programmer spolsky used jamie zawinski, jwz, as his main example, and i think it's an odd, backhanded characterization, that's mainly there to drive a point about something that spolsky imagined
mircea_popescu: lol wait, gmaxwell and mike hearn bitching at each other on reddit as to who should go do an altcoin ?
mircea_popescu: phf the idea is to basically work as an exchange, yes.
phf: mircea_popescu: so the idea is to basically work as exchange, but with black market rate premium, whatever it is 30-40%, and a wider buy vs sell spread?
ascii_field: incidentally, i've wondered when u.s. folks travelling with cash usd will learn about thermite as countermeasure to 'confiscator'
mircea_popescu: the locals are broadly speaking too retarded to qualify as frogs.
ascii_field: trinque: as i understand, the story isn't about '90s-style bans, but smoke to distract from the fact the 'smartPnohe' etc. is thoroughly pwned and usg-controlled on every level, 'crypted' or not
jurov: http://www.explo.yt/Code_Galaxies_Visualization_-_debian.png as it's 3D this does not do it justice, the fat dot is libc6
ascii_field: jurov: be so kind as to post a screenshot of whatever that thing was ?
assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 11:50:54; mircea_popescu: cazalla nah it's just, as the gulf between society and government widens, the ability of society to maintain social order decays. people start taking it upon themselves to provide for their own security, the most vulnerable groups (foreign language speaking, poor immigrants) overstot, which induces negative reactions in the public,
mod6: i ran into the the same problem as trinque with mine. and you told him 'get a computer'
mod6: are you compiling as yourself or root?
mod6: thx. mainly as I'm kinda still sorta updating 'em, it's easier to update 'em on my side then to push 'em into the wiki every time.
mike_c: meaning on the wiki, as opposed to link to your site
mircea_popescu: "it remains a bit unclear as to how many people are actually working on this project. Or to be more precise, it is unclear whether or not anyone is still developing Eulora at all."
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1216389 <<< aka how to load your *nix box with as many shitty apps to make it feel like winblowz as possible. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: next step : look into boost as per jurov's suggestion
pete_dushenski: anyone who's so kind as to offer me assistance, please speak slowly and carefully, as if you were talking to a 10-year-old version of yourself
BingoBoingo glad "runs bitcoin" has overtaken "runs dopewars" as the measure of a decent *nix
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2015#1215805 << how the fuck is it that libertards always end up with "forced participation" as a solution ? ☝︎
pete_dushenski: "In the latest turn in the scandal, known as "Deflategate," Goodell said he affirmed the suspension in part because of the new revelation that Brady made "a deliberate effort" to keep investigators from reading text messages stored on the device." << sports leagues own their player's texts/sexts nao ?
BingoBoingo: <phf> gracie jj all over the place, like with karate in the 90s, and roughly as useful << USeful enough for its particular role in the proscribed contest
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 00:53:50; nubbins`: as someone who knows far too much about the science of coffee, starbucks is actual shit
phf: gracie jj all over the place, like with karate in the 90s, and roughly as useful
asciilifeform: hanbot: the basic idea of 'rotor' is that you have quite the same stator as before, but it is built with a toolchain (gcc and binutils) that were built for the occasion, and use musl
asciilifeform: hanbot: you will have a dir, outermost, named what you like - e.g., 'rotor', and then rotor/toolchain and rotor/buildroot-xxx and rotor/stator, inside the latter - quite the same thing as in normal stator, other than the musl patch and the rotor.sh script (replacing the old stator.sh)
asciilifeform: hanbot: it means that the stator has to be set up in the same way as for classic stator - there is a 'distfiles' dir, the one with MANIFEST, that needs to have the tarballs placed therein
hanbot: say asciilifeform, can this line from rotor step 6) be devague-ified? "and fill distfiles with tarballs, etc. as before."
mircea_popescu: "It was an expansive decision on the UFC's part, as the promotion claimed its main interest was to legitimize the sport by removing the tacky, albeit characteristic, fight gear that had become an emblem of the polarizing sport"
asciilifeform: as in, army is decimated because $leak
asciilifeform: they even censored something so mundane as the botnet c&c ips
asciilifeform: as in, a formulated hypothesis ?
mircea_popescu: and for the first time making it worth something projectively. prior to that, it was just measured by the world, as anything. exported to china for its silver weight etc.
mircea_popescu: the avatars of "common sense" as held by the mentally stunted adult roman woman of "respectable extraction" would find exact equivalents in the heads of your new york rachel fucktard today, or in the heads of british imbecile a century ago, or wherever else. and it'd take them all of half an hour to start nodding approvingly at each other
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: asciilifeform as a pot smoking hippie in some alternate reality...the stuff good sitcoms are made of
decimation: yarvin pointed this out as well: you failed to live up to the america you propagandised us into believing in!
phf: there's a lot of russian jews working at NIH, self style soviet dissidents, who now run various research departments same way as they were doing it back then. the common sentiment is basically "we've been had for a pair of chinese jeans"
asciilifeform: hence same as if importing by post from ethiopia or whatever.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i bet pigs would work just as well << May need an obligate carnivore for musk from the anal glands. Perhaps physical Doge may have a use.
asciilifeform: i bet pigs would work just as well
BingoBoingo: <nubbins`> nowadays, the animals are force-fed so you might as well feed the beans to a cow. << I have the feeling a ruminant's multiple stomachs could defeat even a bean.
nubbins`: nowadays, the animals are force-fed so you might as well feed the beans to a cow.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: when i learned about this coffee, as a boy, i immediately wondered why they use this animal and no other
ben_vulpes: true for good chocolate as well.
nubbins`: as someone who knows far too much about the science of coffee, starbucks is actual shit ☟︎
asciilifeform: because there are virtually no other coffee shops, as such, where i live
asciilifeform: nubbins`: 'starbucks' is in same mental category as microshit, in my mind
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2014 02:39:31; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as a boy, i often thought that i would grow up, 'have money', and buy an apple computer - at least to try it (the crippled machines at schools, etc. were an interesting diversion, and i imagined that mac is 'rich man's computer' somehow)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i like my 'hypercard' on at least 800x600 pixels << I usually do the presentation with a "clean desk" to heighten to realization that this machine was small enought to allow civilized other work at desk, as happened in age when computer was office accessory.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> but generally i don't recommend an archaeologist's machine to a civilian << I recommend this one because hypercard. As a dare, for the ones that get it realize not all "advances" are such.
asciilifeform: the ones sold today are the same fucking x86_64 as the 2007 and on
nubbins`: for a time, i developed "app store" apps as a hobby
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: other than as word processor, what can you use that thing for ?
nubbins`: jobs is marginally interesting for having fessed up to LSD usage, but as i understand it was generally a piece of shit otherwise
asciilifeform: at any rate, if you go and read edison's writings, you get a very similar flavour of 'idiot savant / malicious imbecile' as from bill gates ☟︎
nubbins`: i find people don't want X so much as they want the experience of choosing/buying/being sold X
nubbins`: no kidding, every now and then some internal piece of code would return an array of strings as a single, very large string, with entries separated by the escape string "#;"
mircea_popescu: gotta love tardstalk. almost as good as washington post, in that it's not merely written by retards,
trinque: so oops on my part as well
mircea_popescu: if you recal my out of hand rejection of property as an analytical tool in a previous discussion about what htings ARE, you won't be surprised it applies here.
ascii_field: point was, 'property right' is only as interesting as the ability to enforce it
mircea_popescu: yes, spectrum is same as land.
ascii_field: noting that spectrum is not actually same as land.
mircea_popescu: Finally, my question: All of my transactions into the Trezor showed up as confirmed as soon as they got confirmed, however the send transaction (through Coinbase at our donation web sites) took hours to show up as confirmed in the myTrezor wallet even though it had many, many confirmation on blockchain.info
ascii_field: with sdr, law could be just as effective against 'radio pirate' as it is against rats and mice.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2015#1215136 << you're the one not fucking them, explain to the public why not. sure as hell they'd "coachsurf" in your livingroom as well as any other as well as any other cockroach, if you allowed it, so why aren;t you ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: prooving to the monopolist he's nopt ready or not able to shoot as many as it takes === defeating the monopoly.