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mircea_popescu: i do not believe it is "never recovered from mongol therapy", i believe it's "And they were such retarded pantsuits, not even the mongols could help them"

mircea_popescu: back to teh fetlife lulz : the amusing part, at least toi me, is that friend-adding still works! i'm the happy owner of an account with 7890 of them. which i expect is the site record.

asciilifeform: ( hey, asciilifeform had at least 1 thread where 'and by + i meant - !' so.)

asciilifeform: so i parsed.

mircea_popescu: so i have little trouble believing, as clemens describes, "mark spot for depoit, buy the land from farmer, sell later at profit"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i much believe the former.

asciilifeform: i.e. suddenly 'near the rails' became 'the place to be', and all the land was already owned by the grantees

mircea_popescu: i think the way the socialist empires work, everything they do decays over time.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the rails, i still don't wholly grasp whether the railroad co's in 19th c usa actually robbed anybody, or whether (as seems moar plausible) the whole thing was an early sneak preview of early-bitcoinism

mircea_popescu: i dunno.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 16:16 hanbot: mircea_popescu sure i remember, was one of the more hysterical objections i'd ever heard. and iirc it wasn't just that *trilema* was "illegal"; *you* were lol

mircea_popescu: nah, i expect http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779731 bothered them. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: <div class="notice_bar"><div class="ac">Unfortunately, creating new messages is currently broken. We are looking into it. Sorry. :(</div><a href="#" class="xxs un tdn i hide_notice" style="position: absolute; top: 10px; right: 10px">close</a></div> << the added element.

mircea_popescu: ah, speaking of trains, here's a story i wanted to tell!

asciilifeform: nao that i think of it, that whole (otherwise almost intolerably ameritardian) film was really about amerifood

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in great trilemas i should probably translate, http://trilema.com/2011/exercitiu-practic-de-dileme-morale/

a111: Logged on 2015-09-03 03:21 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260904 << i recently met a fella who cannot drink american instant coffee. breaks out in hives. and not on account of the coffee, but from having allergy to... cockroaches.

asciilifeform: (spreading -- i will attest -- indeed works...)

a111: Logged on 2017-10-31 22:54 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-31#1731544 << everyone is, as a result of usg militant tardation. i can just drive into brazil. you -- can not. they "banned" turkish visitors, as if anyone from turkey could be arsed to go to the us ; turkey reciprocated, meaning about 70% of classical antiquity is now off limits to what in english passes for "the civilised world".

asciilifeform: in american 'high end' shops there is, incidentally, product claiming to be 'Ersteklasse', but (largely from asciilifeform's childhood memory) i would say that it is a lie, is actually 'Zweite Klasse' per mircea_popescu's table.

asciilifeform: dedicated entomologist could prolly clean out the dbusism from'em. but i did not want to waste whole month.

asciilifeform: fwiw there are a number of proggies i was not able to build on that x60 , under my gentoo banflag-list . e.g. 'chromium', number of others.

asciilifeform: so no, not surprised. but said removals require good bit of actual work with hands; i have very rarely found that it was possible to do it 'with 3 lines of sed'

asciilifeform: well yes, recall where i bulldozered out the autoconfism in mpi

a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 15:20 phf: asciilifeform: by the way, freebsd's ports system (i tried it on a machine that can actually compile things, unlike x60) is a little bit more configurable than pkgsrc/openbsd, so you can actually disable dbus in emacs or firefox! but the lulz of lulz, firefox depends on gtk3, where you can't configure out dbus, so presumably it gets pulled anyway.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781259 << i think the pill for this sort of nonsense is to nuke the dependency graph altogether, bitch may depend on what you tell it to depend on and naught else. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781255 << also acceptabru solution, i guess, yeah. ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: oh hah i assumed it was continuation, for some technical reason, of december -- 'december-2'

mircea_popescu: well, they soon will, of course. but i hadn't mentioned either.

mircea_popescu: i think it's quite the educational maneuver.

asciilifeform: dunno, i think mircea_popescu's 1st picture, of the elementary 'my language lost the human parts' is spot on

mircea_popescu: and if that theory dun satisfy you, i have no better one.

mircea_popescu: anyway, quoted object is first result on a search, at least on the network i looked at.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 14:34 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781218 << laugh, but until today i had nfi that this mistranslation existed ! and it is still not clear to me how it was possible to come up with it while knowing that the orig referred to springs ( where the correct orig statement is true, and the bastardized -- elementarily -- not )

mircea_popescu: in retrospect, that 50% may be severely understated -- i can't think of a girl that actually likes boys. even if not gay, the selection on tap is such that... well...

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've met a bunch of "vegetarian" gals that are no longer ; much like i actually fuck about half-lesbians by headcount these days. if you don't know how $item is, easy enough to "give it up"

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've met a number of amerivictims who can't abide actual cheese, for stated reason.

asciilifeform: hey i'm sure the rats in the dumpster also would think it is nogood

mircea_popescu: if you're willing to say the "pay me what i say for me to do what i think i should do" class is more like gnats than chairs, in the end it makes no difference, mechanisms are still not people.

mircea_popescu: "check me out, master of the chairs, i roll them down inclines!!!" ie http://trilema.com/2010/aventurile-zilei/#selection-49.743-49.975

hanbot: mircea_popescu sure i remember, was one of the more hysterical objections i'd ever heard. and iirc it wasn't just that *trilema* was "illegal"; *you* were lol ☟︎

asciilifeform: i suppose this is not so diff from the folx who kept shilling for e.g. pirate ~after~ the magic day

mircea_popescu: so you know, to alf's absolute standard, "she never suffered the consequences", i guess.

asciilifeform: this part i always found puzzling. why not take the chance for revenge ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at any rate, i'd say about 1/3 of pre-2012 trilema consists pretty much of this, "corner ro toporisk, erape them, publish the results".

mircea_popescu: hanbot hey, remember when trilema was declared "illegal" because i had an ocean of stickers put up in the vein of http://trilema.com/2016/pizdi/ and they a) had never thought of it and b) couldn't afford the coupla benjies even if they had thought of it, so massive butthurt ensued ?

mircea_popescu: sure. tons of various kinds, i spent years pissing on them in ro while they were "upset" and "trilema doesn't exist because it pisses on us from the balcony".

asciilifeform: fundamentally predictable item , i suspect

asciilifeform: oh hah i'd expect they have pnojes by nao

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> what i was thinking of, is sorta like the diff b/w usa motorcyclist and orc : the ameritard buys 'harley' on credit, because he saw some movies once; the orc has old zundapp simply because that's all the petrol he can afford , and all the parking that's to be had in his goat shed << Nah, they do not ride zundapps. They ride a lot of Yumbos and other chinese imports.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how would you account for the diff ? (i.e. egyptian orc has his 'jam tomorrow' receptors safely plugged by koran ? or how. why not as susceptible to 'betterfutureism'..? )

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i assumed, possibly naively, that the orcistani ones simply can't afford a motor. << There is another contingent that believes, or says they believe motocicletas are UNSAFE!!!

mircea_popescu: and what he's virtue signalling is one of two things : either "i am ready to be elevated into a criminology beca at spaceship" or else "i am ready to be given a precious cuntlet you no longer need to rule all things around me".

asciilifeform: what i was thinking of, is sorta like the diff b/w usa motorcyclist and orc : the ameritard buys 'harley' on credit, because he saw some movies once; the orc has old zundapp simply because that's all the petrol he can afford , and all the parking that's to be had in his goat shed

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i assumed, possibly naively, that the orcistani ones simply can't afford a motor.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i.e. ameritard biciclism is diff disease than orcistani.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun have an argument, strictly an observation

asciilifeform: i get empty after empty after empty

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781252 << this is precisely what i fixed, didja look at how it works now before bitching? ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 06:22 ben_vulpes: i want to do something to surface the dates of conversations, also the "next" button on the monthly view lets one page forward into infinity, but i'm going to let it sit for now

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but... i find it suspicious the dates for all lines are from the last day of the month ?

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781250 << would be a shame to waste a whole page on 2 lines, as happens from time to time, but i can see the argument, esp in re how the monthcollapse hides dates ☝︎

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes OOOO! nao i get it

a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 09:22 mircea_popescu: y field". so logically, "how about i can scroll a month at a time instead".

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am assuming the bicicletists are allowed to terrorize self driving cars with impunity.

BingoBoingo: Eh, there isn't enought to qntra outta the headline I wanted. Apparently the pantsuits are pushing bici to vehicle transponders as a way of ensuring bicicletist safety in a self driving car world. What isn't stated by the pantsuits is a lol, but not enough of one.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like bessy but with an i. bissy.

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everyone here talks about their bici's which few people actually ride. Thusly there's a cognitive bump in my head as I compose a piece on the latest pantsuit premonition.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:20 phf: re upstack, there's been a resurgence of sorts of gopher protocol, various hipsters spinning up personal websites, etc. whether the resurgence was shortlived or i'm just late to the game, but there's already a community of wreckers (one of them groups is coming from this federated twitter platform, mastodon) discussing all the various ways that they want to "improve" gopher, tls, utf-8, markdown renderer, "minimal subset of html", etc. but at the same

asciilifeform: really i oughta expand on this :

asciilifeform: for all the rot of gentoo, i was nevertheless able to get this result, after using the recipe i posted 2y ago

asciilifeform: phf: i have a gtk2-only ff on the gentoo-x60; but iirc it is an old ver

phf: asciilifeform: by the way, freebsd's ports system (i tried it on a machine that can actually compile things, unlike x60) is a little bit more configurable than pkgsrc/openbsd, so you can actually disable dbus in emacs or firefox! but the lulz of lulz, firefox depends on gtk3, where you can't configure out dbus, so presumably it gets pulled anyway. ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: i recall this; it is The Right Thing

a111: Logged on 2018-02-05 09:22 mircea_popescu: y field". so logically, "how about i can scroll a month at a time instead".

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781218 << laugh, but until today i had nfi that this mistranslation existed ! and it is still not clear to me how it was possible to come up with it while knowing that the orig referred to springs ( where the correct orig statement is true, and the bastardized -- elementarily -- not ) ☝︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: y field". so logically, "how about i can scroll a month at a time instead". ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: basically i'm looking to better guarantees that my clicking has an effect. "it will give you previous day" is a great thing on #trilema, where you fucking know a day is going to take like... a day to go through, especially if you check references / think about what's said etc. but if the channel is lower volume, it may well be meaningless, "thank you for your click, here's a WHOLE NEW empty field to replace your previous empt

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781194 << how the fuck would he know. o, wait... nc, i forgot. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-05#1781185 << lmao. the peacock being one of the dumbest birds, i can see why the woman bonded to it. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: and i daresay that this is very much the right thing.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 22:45 b41e209ccc264812: I am the Mario guy and a kind of fan of Munguia

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-04#1781147 << claim it the other way though ; otherwise ~anyone can make a new key and say "I'm X". Have X say you're him. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-01-26 17:16 asciilifeform: ( and lol, this has gotta be the 1st time i hear mircea_popescu refer to a hardcopy of sumthing..? )

mircea_popescu: ial. http://trilema.com/talent-triumphant-or-on-empathy << this is a rewritten book, originally "micuta/n-a dansat decit o vara". http://trilema.com/resplenduminous << idem rewritten book ; then there's the whole rothbardf series, from http://trilema.com/the-ethics-of-liberty-by-murray-n-rothbard-adnotated-part-i-natural-law-and-reason to http://trilema.com/the-ethics-of-liberty-by-murray-n-rothbard-adnotated-part-vi-a-crusoe

mircea_popescu: (there's of course also http://trilema.com/2018/the-man-versus-the-state/ ; and http://trilema.com/we-shall-now-read-anathem i suppose counts as a book ? http://trilema.com/cezar-petrescu-file-dintrun-caiet-de-amintiri-mateiu-i-caragiale is perhaps making the cut also ? http://trilema.com/alexandru-osvald-pastorel-teodoreanu << this is a book, "strofe cu pelin de mai pentru/contra iorga neculai" fortified with newspaper mater

a111: Logged on 2017-03-15 13:55 b41e209ccc264812: thanks Pete. I am still doing trilema.com for now.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 22:37 asciilifeform: then i regret to inform b41e209ccc264812 that there are no new b00kz

a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 22:40 b41e209ccc264812: ugly i know

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-04#1781116 << so weird, i have no memory of this. ☝︎

ben_vulpes: i want to do something to surface the dates of conversations, also the "next" button on the monthly view lets one page forward into infinity, but i'm going to let it sit for now ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-02-04 16:12 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes : i just spent 10 minutes clicking like a madman through the dates of your logs of trilema-trinque trilema-mod6 etc. could it be a feature that if one month contains less than 2k lines of log then it is presented as a month by month rather than as a day by day thing ?

asciilifeform: which is annoying and will need a fiddling mechanism i'd rather not have.

asciilifeform: and, to nobody's great surprise, i suspect, the ideal karatsuba threshhold turns out to differ for 'soft' vs 'iron' word-mul variant.

Techman: I don't, mostly because I don't have a lot of bitcoin and what I put into it is tanking :(

Techman: I just haven't opened my VM yet to do the gpg verification to get voiced again (weechat ran out of memory lul)

Techman: what do you mean what brings me by? I've been here ever since dpb introduced himself on lrh

ben_vulpes: i assumed that his "to claim my" was in response to "but waii"

asciilifeform: and i gotta wonder how he came up with it. afaik gpg , for instance, does not default to it.

asciilifeform: ( currently i can't see how b41e209ccc264812 can prove that he is the orig commenter. but it ain't me he will have to satisfy, but rather mircea_popescu )