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asciilifeform: farm fake agreement << as pictured in herr chomsky's 'manufacturing consent' etc
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> better than any government << from safe distance. right now, as i understand, they are in what '90s ru called 'initial capital allocation.' which tends to involve some mess - machine-gunning of whole hamlets to prove a point, etc
asciilifeform: prolly one of those things that will never entirely disappear for so long as there are 'immunocompromised' decaying civilizations, etc
mircea_popescu: i wonder, incidentally, how, when or if will the us-style feminist conceptualize that her notions of gender identity and female rights imposes a significant cost on the community, and as a result ensures a) its downfal and b) the mass rape of most females and some males dumb enough to have participated, deserved, as spoils of war.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: possible nuance is that aztlan has no use for the white man. except possibly as sacrifice
mircea_popescu: incidentally, today's discussion of the 1% ratchet should, if nothing else, serve as a burning icon of how exactly consensus is sought.
pete_dushenski: "Cryptographer and digital currency researcher Nick Szabo, who many believe to be the real identity behind Satoshi Nakamoto, has stated that a rapid block size increase is “a huge security risk” and “a reckless act to be performing on a $4 billion system.” Szabo made the remarks as part of the ongoing debate over the Bitcoin block size, which continues to draw in major players from across the community. As
trinque: damn, I need to start using progre as a slur
mircea_popescu: that the stupidity discounted as broken a century ago is still the state of the art for these people should concern them.
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 18:45:25; punkman: "That the community communication channels, the repositories, and any other likewise bitcoin assets, are public property and owned by the community as a whole, not any one single individual nor a very small group of people. All steps must be taken to allow full access to every individual to these assets and to reduce fully or to the absolute minimum any and all barriers to any and all access of these a
thestringpuller: using kids as excuses
mircea_popescu: " We thank everybody for sharing their perception as together we will make new findings."
BingoBoingo: jurov: You've never had fried or stewed peanuts as an accompanyment to catfish?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You said as much when discussing BitBet colors and the gray side and the blue side
mircea_popescu: it is the exact example case you wish for your argument, and it's a pity to not reference it (especially because it connotes not-done-homework for they in the actual know as to the topics you discuss re law and precedent etc)
BingoBoingo: If ethereum ever entirely works as promised plan on x86 ring-0 exploits routinely becoming parts of "contracts"
mircea_popescu: might as well take a discussion of "dilution is medicine" and write a sci-fi work about how a universe with this would look like.
mircea_popescu: wilbns so outright i see the following problem : you discuss ethereum at the maximal outskirts of what its proponents presnet it as. this is not unlike taking a ponzi schemer's "idea" and pretending it would be a central bank, then discussing how "it regulates financial flows". rank nonsense.
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 18:45:12; nubbins`: it looks like they literally copied the /r/bitcoin header, magic-wand-selected the background, paint-bucketed it blue, tacked on "xt" and saved it as a jpeg
mircea_popescu: given that the alternative is "raise an army", and given that "iof you raise an army, might as well sell the captured women into slavery and cultivate poppies", people who don't particularly like the sight of moaning, chained women and heroin addicts have little choice.
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 15:47:21; shinohai: Somehow that seems just as bad as real 2-factor auth
mircea_popescu: not as many tho
ascii_field: as the one previously checked in mempool
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the reason nbc doesn't do this is because it doesnt' exist as a market yo. << The do it on cable, call it Univision.
nubbins`: just as likely it'll push smallies out of the picture
mircea_popescu: ascii_field this, as a principle, is in no way argued against. it is exactly true. the proposal is that as restrained, it would not be harmful.
mircea_popescu: the reason nbc doesn't do this is because it doesnt' exist as a market yo.
ascii_field: mike_c: i very much see the ratcheting increase as an 'enemy-can-spend-fixing to cost-me-fixint-multipled-by-forever'
trinque: williamdunne: my point was simply that "I could X as long as I find a rich guy that wants to help" isn't much of a strategy, much less so if you can't demonstrate upon meeting said rich guy that you can execute
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1240864 << ~= >> 'there is an existing market that is missing a few areas, such as anal-rape-with-hedgehog, even within the section that is willing to undergo anal-rape-with-cactus' ☝︎
jurov: such as?
williamdunne: An exchange, as per previous mentions. Unfortunately though it will have KYC so mabbeh less interesting for people on #b-a, ofc that's for ya'll to decide
mircea_popescu: let's start with some assumptions : that as is, pogos can survive for 2 years before they fill. that if blocks were to be made 2mb, they'd survive 1 year instead.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field let us calculate the actual case of the pogo, shall we ? as an exercise, mostl;y for my own edification.
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 19:24:23; mircea_popescu: incidentally ascii_field mod6 kakobrekla jurov & mike_c do let me know if you'd like me to publish http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1240297 on trilema as "b-a's notion of a block increasing hardfork".
mircea_popescu: as in, goes up or down.
mircea_popescu: irl, settlement's a paperwoirk affair and actual delivery is much disconsidered. as a token of the fact that everyone involved would muchly want reality to match their representation to the degree of absolute identity. so they desconsider the later. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: do you imagine this bullion thing as it "Should be" or do you have direct experience ?
ascii_field: all the world's bullion transfers, if written out as a log, would they even fill 1MB in a year?
ascii_field: same problem as a hypothetical monotonically growing mining difficulty.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: imho the algo as written here is disastrously bad
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 09:12:53; mircea_popescu: a function that, after each retarget, allows blocks as large as say 1.01x the average actual size of the blocks in the 2k batch for instance.
mircea_popescu: incidentally ascii_field mod6 kakobrekla jurov & mike_c do let me know if you'd like me to publish http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1240297 on trilema as "b-a's notion of a block increasing hardfork". ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field as to the later, no reason. as to the former, no idea. i suffer from the disease of all cerebral beings, of enjoying the consideration of abstract problems in no direct relation to their practical utility.
punkman: "That the community communication channels, the repositories, and any other likewise bitcoin assets, are public property and owned by the community as a whole, not any one single individual nor a very small group of people. All steps must be taken to allow full access to every individual to these assets and to reduce fully or to the absolute minimum any and all barriers to any and all access of these assets. " heh ☟︎
nubbins`: it looks like they literally copied the /r/bitcoin header, magic-wand-selected the background, paint-bucketed it blue, tacked on "xt" and saved it as a jpeg ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 15:47:07; assbot: Using ambient sound as a two-factor authentication system | Naked Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1gQKrqX )
thestringpuller: trinque: says rsync as I'm installing it and conetmplating it for take unrelated to channel
trinque: but as ascii_field observed a while back, they do that so you have the opportunity to fuck up before them
shinohai: Somehow that seems just as bad as real 2-factor auth ☟︎
assbot: Using ambient sound as a two-factor authentication system | Naked Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1gQKrqX ) ☟︎
shinohai: https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2015/08/17/using-ambient-sound-as-a-two-factor-authentication-system/
punkman: for interested readers, Pierre_Rochard's thread about the limit and fees, with Gavin as special guest: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#986252 ☝︎
ascii_field: they get 'not enough' - they ~die~ and are replaced by folks who don't need as much.
mircea_popescu: so tell her "listen, i want to hear the speaker to i can mock him as well."
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: well I wanted to hear the speaker so I could mock him on Twitter as well, so I didn't have time for a protracted conversation with the stupid cow
cazalla: punkman, i imagine they only discuss bitcoin as the embassy whereas here, it is a little different.. gentleman's club as one article states
cazalla: "He had recently landed a job as a bitcoin ATM attendant in the Waves Coffee House at Smithe and Howe streets and he saw a bright future in the currency. He wanted to create a shared space for the bitcoin community. But having to worry about whether he had a home to come back to at the end of every workday was starting to interfere with his business plans." http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/vancouvers-housing-costs-no-pro
mircea_popescu: but it horribru or not horribru - a) we are currently keeping state, just, as a constant and b) there is no way to make pie-in-the-sky arbitrary values work.
mircea_popescu: there has not yet been as much as a signle day of straight full blocks.
mircea_popescu: a function that, after each retarget, allows blocks as large as say 1.01x the average actual size of the blocks in the 2k batch for instance. ☟︎
Adlai: miner's chicken. they may all support 42TB blocks, as long as the other guy mines them first
mircea_popescu: "Attempting to buy time with a fast increase is not wanting to face that reality, and treating the system as something whose scale trumps all other concerns. A long term scalability plan should aim on decreasing the need for trust required in off-chain systems, rather than increasing the need for trust in Bitcoin." etc
mircea_popescu: yeah the actual function's useless as is
punkman: "“Not everything is for everyone and that’s the way it is,” he said, teeth gleaming indifferently. His theories about shoes were tinged, predictably, with a seeming misogyny. They come, he insisted, with a great deal of “sexual energy” – which is perhaps just as well, as the only thing it’s possible to do in a pair of his heels is lie down."
assbot: Adam Back on Twitter:.@twobitidiot someone mentioned hypothetical: if you lost your Bitcoins as a result of Gavin network split - would you hold him accountable? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1TMuPqj )
trinque: but not necessary long as it boots
BingoBoingo: "This version is indistinguishable from Bitcoin XT 0.11A except that it will not actually hard fork to BIP101, yet appears on the p2p network as Bitcoin XT 0.11A replete with features, yet at a consensus level behaves just like Bitcoin Core 0.11. If it is used to mine, it will produce XT block versions without actually supporting >1MB blocks."
shinohai: He may as well have sucked Gavin's cock as far as r/bitcoin is concerned.
ben_vulpes: the communists came through the apartments recently as well, installing low-flow faucet hobbles
btcdrak: I'm officially registered as an ass now. reddit will be pleased. next stop t/buttcoin. Jealous of petertodd who got mod status
assbot: Logged on 08-09-2014 22:35:52; mircea_popescu: "Thank you for this clarification Mr. Nakamoto. It has been an honor to be labeled by my friends as "Satoshi's Drunk Uncle" and it's a moniker I'll wear proudly until the day I retire from Crypto. The Goldcoin (GLD) developers truly admire your work and strive to continue improving upon its design as a tribute to your unparallelled genius. Your admirer and relative in spirit, MicroGuy."
mircea_popescu: The developers of this pretender-Bitcoin claim to be following my original vision, but nothing could be further from the truth. When I designed Bitcoin, I designed it in such a way as to make future modifications to the consensus rules difficult without near unanimous agreement. Bitcoin was designed to be protected from the influence of charismatic leaders, even if their name is Gavin Andresen, Barack Obama, or Satos
asciilifeform: (they appear as '-' and you can't click on it, aha)
asciilifeform: this is like asking 'how is that fella supposed to breathe under water' as they tie the stone around his neck
assbot: As You Sow Files Notice Of Legal Action Against Soylent Super Food -- OAKLAND, Calif., Aug. 13, 2015 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- ... ( http://bit.ly/1DWOH2I )
punkman: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/as-you-sow-files-notice-of-legal-action-against-soylent-super-food-300128427.html
cazalla: pete_dushenski, if memory serves, ddg is just as bad
ben_vulpes: i try to only use it as a scripting language for my 'editor'
asciilifeform: try to remember the basic reason why we're using 0.5.3 as foundation rather than starting from empty.
asciilifeform: punkman: nice work, and overlaps heavily with my own notes. but gotta understand why i did not make these cuts as of yet.
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2015 05:03:59; hanbot: scoopbot_revived> Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 http://thewhet.net/2015/build-notes-manual-stator-ubuntu-10-04-i686/ << btw will put this together for ml with corrected links an' all once patches are resigned as planned
hanbot: scoopbot_revived> Build Notes: "Manual" Stator, Ubuntu 10.04 i686 http://thewhet.net/2015/build-notes-manual-stator-ubuntu-10-04-i686/ << btw will put this together for ml with corrected links an' all once patches are resigned as planned ☟︎
mats: but hard to shake the eyeballs as a couple of asians strolling around town
phf: i went to costa rica recently, bad food, bad services, one city for the whole country which essentially consists of 5 street blocks of what i would recognize as a city. but the beach was nice, can rent a boat and go diving, etc.
asciilifeform: 'A hacker posed as one of its employees online and stole $46.7 million from the company's accounts.'
pete_dushenski: it's going about as well as you'd expect
pete_dushenski: as covered in http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/06/a-not-so-new-era-begins-in-alberta-politics/
pete_dushenski: reddit has all the merit of the national enquirer and about as much believability
asciilifeform: idk about mircea_popescu but i'm reading it, as the other snowdeniana, as hangout
phf: i saw hook suspension as part of religious ceremony in souther india, they put a lot more showmanship into the whole process then u.s. bdsm crowd. between music, dancing and the general revelry, it's very impressive
punkman: "I’ve asked to her to not leave candy wrappers on the bed or food on the counter as I find hundreds of ants when she does but she does anyway."
assbot: Logged on 11-08-2015 19:12:55; hanbot: shinohai: hanbot compiled pogo ? O.o << nein. have built stator "manually" as of last night, tho still need to verify runs as expected, after which will put together notes. have not pogo-ed, rotor trial to come. (ubuntu 10.04 32bit + mod6's gracious help)
mircea_popescu: "he is guilty, he reprsented his research as relevant!"
BingoBoingo remembers owning a perhaps poor translation of the communist manifesto that suggested ho trains as a replacement for marriage.
BingoBoingo: Fuck, I misrepresent Qntra to fellow USians as mowing lawns
mircea_popescu: as if there exists anyone in the verbiage side of the us who doesn't, as a principal actiuvity, misrepresent their work.
asciilifeform: and, as perpetuum mobile, all attempts at doing the fundamentally impossible are bound to end in tears
asciilifeform: which he regarded (having had the misfortune to play a part in creating!) as a similar kind of retardation
asciilifeform: iirc tcp as originally proposed had a second channel for virtual 'out of band' ! but was never used.