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assbot: Why Your Team Sucks | Conformal Systems, LLC. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Joq8aZ )
pete_dushenski: the man had an affinity for the gallows, to be sure, not unlike stan's really
pete_dushenski: but speaking of goya, after the local art gallery was revamped a few years back, it finally snagged itself a goya exhibit, which was my first and only exposure to the spaniard's etchings
pete_dushenski: "oh hey look what i found in this shoebox!"
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 18:50:57; mircea_popescu: what part of doublethink you think got cancelled ? the man with two maja desnudas simply is twice as happy.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248535 << guernicas too. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: alas, too aged is he
pete_dushenski: if only taleb could handle such turds, he'd be here
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 18:05:26; asciilifeform: in unrelated nyooz, tr0l0l0l, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1482&cpage=1#comment-17278
trinque: in either case, thinking one can persuade reality otherwise is a mental illness
pete_dushenski: sure, disease was a thing, partly incidental, possibly intentional
pete_dushenski: guns are nukes now, they do actually work in the battlefield
trinque: actually, we do have to credit disease
mats: state of the art -- muskets.
trinque: where'd the indians go then?
mats: err, for the white man*
mats: i dunno that guns were such an advantage against the white man.
pete_dushenski: 'so let's not bring that up'
pete_dushenski: 'indians should've never sucked so badly that they literally shat their skirts when they first saw a gun'
trinque: I demand for this to never have happened at once! ☟︎☟︎☟︎
pete_dushenski: what is this, the right to be forgotten ?
pete_dushenski: 'as users try to remove their names' ??
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mod6: Don't feel like it's a waste of time either to create your own method to generate these vpatches and see if we come out with the same resultant hash.
mod6: Anyway, here are the hashes for the rel1.vpatch & rel2.vpatch
mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque & all: For your review. http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/orc.sh && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel1.vpatch && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel2.vpatch ☟︎
mod6: This script is huge, but does quite a bit too. I'll post it and the resulting rel1.vpatch and rel2.vpatch here in a bit.
mod6: now my sha256 manifests match from the original to the one-shot whole orchestra
mod6: ah, thx phf
phf: "Normally this option is unnecessary, since patch can exam- ine the time stamps on the header to determine whether a file should exist after patching."
assbot: These people should be shot, basically. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLfqT6 )
mod6: oh the functionallity of "automatically pruning empty files" ?
phf: mod6: in fact if you read patch man page, you'll see that us stripping dates basically broke that functionality
phf: mod6: try running patch with -E ?
mod6: dang, so close. i've basically got a rel1.vpatch and a rel2.vpatch all set -- but I'm seeing one strange thing... after doing the one-shot patching of either: rel1.vpatch leaves an empty 'makefile.linux-mingw' and 'qtui.h', while rel2.vpatch leaves an empty 'irc.h' and 'irc.cpp'.
ben_vulpes: solve my system of equations goddamnit don't try to intuit what i mean ☟︎
ben_vulpes: which i suppose are nominally the same but raaaaa
ben_vulpes: dude autodesk fusion 360 does the DUMBEST POSSIBLE THING for EVERY constraint
punkman: yeah but that's not "encrypt to UNSPECIFIED set of keys"
mircea_popescu: gossipd the best i can think of.
punkman: I don't see how that'd be possible
punkman: and it has to keep working when you add or remove people from l1?
mircea_popescu: l1 in the example
punkman: reference to what?
mircea_popescu: or as the case may be, specified by reference.
punkman: when multiple recipients, gpg makes a key, encrypts content with that key, the encrypt key separately for each recipient
mircea_popescu: via gossipd, is the closest i can see.
mircea_popescu: do tell ?
mircea_popescu: sadly it doesn't seem matematically possible to have this miracle.
mircea_popescu: i'd seriously consider publishing trilema as such if a way for this existed.
mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform and whoever else is privately thinking of reimplementing pgp : one thing i'd dearly love would be the ability to encrypt not to X, but to "l1". ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what was the one with the contracts i forgety
mircea_popescu: ppl really need to to a diff between realsolid's claims in 2012 and gavin's claims in 2015
mircea_popescu: <trinque> or if it did on some forkchain, who cares? that one will inflate << and for a while it will be "just as good as bitcoin" except "better", like all other scamcoins to date. like ethereum, and next before it, and aurora coin before it, and solidcoin before it and so on.
mircea_popescu: a retail payment system that isn't visa is going to be inferior to a retail payment system that is visa for the foreseeable future.
punkman: Szabo: "A retail payment system that makes the consumer worry about two prices instead of one is far inferior to system where merchant pays tx fee."
mircea_popescu: punkman yes of course. just as soon as there's observable value everywhere a horde of shitheads with spoons are moving towards it. ☟︎
trinque: or if it did on some forkchain, who cares? that one will inflate
punkman: "What every digital goldbug should be thinking right now: if this can happen with block size, it can happen to the 21m supply cap."
punkman: found the art links through this rabbit hole http://www.anonymousswisscollector.com/
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assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 18:32:55; asciilifeform: but it is a handy means of mechanically computing whom to negrate.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248485 << well no it's not, since no time we what, rate both ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: #Made by MP, the 59675th item so made.
mircea_popescu: should we need a salt, in the shape of a #sigline for all authors ? something like
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 18:26:16; asciilifeform: my present understanding is that the only solution to this is that i intend to negrate anyone who EVER does this.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248467 << i'd like more explanation of how the fuck this could occur. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: new theory: mpex price correlates with stans work on foundation client
mod6: now just gotta do it for rel2-pre and clean it up a bit and i think i'll have something for you guys to look at.
mod6: it's a one shot, straight to rel1 source.
mod6: oh this is pretty neat. so I got the mechanics tested & rebased for rel1 -- off of classic patches & genesis.vpatch to be sure. created a "rel1.vpatch" from that. then tested it, worked good on top of extracted genesis.vpatch. then did one of these numbers "cat genesis.vpatch >> rel1-fromair.vpatch ; cat rel1.vpatch >> rel1-fromair.vpatch ; patch -p1 < rel1-fromair.vpatch"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i was not reading messages at the time
mircea_popescu: "for fucks sake, is it necessary to invade every last god forsaken swamp ? is burma next ???"
phf: ben_vulpes: -p doesn't seem to do the same thing on os x as --parents does in gnu cp
mircea_popescu: could have just voiced the guy
ben_vulpes: which, more idle experiment than an attempt to build a bitcoin on a macos box
ben_vulpes: pm'd me on the topic of --parents vs. -p and os x
ben_vulpes: by the by, does anyone know the zfx individual?
mircea_popescu: first time the equivalent of turing's definition was constructed in practice.
ben_vulpes: it's a good and simple definition. "it must build bitcoin with V, it must sync a full chain verifying each block, and it must keep up with the main chain."
asciilifeform out to meatspace for a spell
mircea_popescu: it is a central tenant of computer science, henceforth.
mircea_popescu: "There remains after today no alternative manner to deploy Bitcoin software, or indeed any software that is not a toy intended to be used by children playing, outside of this paradigm. May the switchover be bloody and painful in all the right places." is not some sort of a joke, and in no case can it be waved aside.
mircea_popescu: because the whitegoods are fucking made for a house with running water by people who have running water and intend to continue having it.
mircea_popescu: especially the dishwasher.
mircea_popescu: just like you can go make yourself a house on the prarie. it won't have running water. and all the whitegoods will work poorly fed from canister.
mircea_popescu: but in being non-ba project, it misses out on all those things a ba project gets.
mircea_popescu: if it burns to the ground tomorrow it's about fifty million years too late.
mircea_popescu: humanity as it chooses to understand itself is the chief enemy, actually, and also the author of shit like the gnu diff. and everything else.
mircea_popescu: b-a is not a fucking gift "to humanity" as that "humanity" chooses to understand itself. b-a is a gift to humanity as defined by b-a.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c hey, would you make the v graph alongside the wot graph ?
mircea_popescu: and this exact scenario has played out a dozen or more times in the history of b-a
mircea_popescu: (really, V chiefly exists because we put other thibngs together a while back, and we didn't at the time know yet this is how it'll come out.
mircea_popescu: because really - they much belong together, and i expect synergy to be productive
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the graph thing is quite essential (and if no one else does it, i will) because it exposes the actual dependency flow
mircea_popescu: which is exactly a) what should be favoured (make it easy for the DEPLOYERS to sign, let the writers have to do all the hard work) and b) maximally economical.
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 16:05:39; asciilifeform: it is important that everyone who works on therealbitcoin sign 'genesis' and distribute said signature.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248374 << from my own pov it is very convenient, because it reduces to "sign the genesis and sign the meristems you are happy with in deployment" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 15:53:24; asciilifeform: 'v' will recursively walk the hashes in the release and apply the necessary vpatches to produce the tree.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248349 << exactly the idea. ☝︎