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BingoBoingo: The fixation on one piece of outsider media is a
thing in
the German Peasant
tradition
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform dood was quite unsophisticated, had
this very... well, fundamentally a peasant's worldview, deeply optimistic and over-inclined
to fit-in-head. << Well... "Dallas"
mircea_popescu: and sure, it does make sense. but
THEY make no sense
to him whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: and
to him,
this makes sense. "what sort of moron would you have
to be,
to not understand
than 100`000 bakers' for 100`000 places
that had no bakers' since aurelian's withdrawal is way
the fuck a bigger deal
than 5 homos upset because nobody is using
the right zhernouns."
mircea_popescu: so yes,
the building of bakers' in ~all villages, so
the dorks can have day-old bread rather
than week-old bread, is an important point.
mircea_popescu: when it joined
the eu,
the % of barnhouses in
the eu incresed like 30 fold.
mircea_popescu: the guy points out
that almost all villages got bakers' built.
this is factually
true, and important -- gotta understand romania is
TODAY, and STILL,
the one country in europe where 1/3 or so of schools have no running water.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dood was quite unsophisticated, had
this very... well, fundamentally a peasant's worldview, deeply optimistic and over-inclined
to fit-in-head.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 15:04 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
they shot
the shoemaker, ironically enough, because he was excessively like me for
their
taste.
their principal objections, unvoiced but
truthfully and authentically reconstructed, were in order
that 1) he sent
them
to do manual labour, in complete disdain of
their self-identification ("we're intellectuals!!!") ; 2) he was unimpressed by
the rest of
their
http://trilema.com/2016/the-next-generation/ hallucinatio
mircea_popescu: even MORE ironically, one can quite say
this was
the face of
the opposition. (chick married
that dork, hence
the double name.)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: didn't love
the hippos for
the special and unique snowflake of a woman
they really were ~deep~ inside.
mircea_popescu: the only
truthful expression of history is
to say nicolae ceausescu was
the first mayogender victim.
mircea_popescu: ns,
to
the degree of not providing
them with
the requisite aspirational goods
to enact
the pretense and 3) he was ~critical~.
there's even a moment at
the "meeting with
the writers" where he points out
that he's not really
taking
them seriously, but maybe one day
they manage
to build an intellectual system
that can
take his criticism.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
they shot
the shoemaker, ironically enough, because he was excessively like me for
their
taste.
their principal objections, unvoiced but
truthfully and authentically reconstructed, were in order
that 1) he sent
them
to do manual labour, in complete disdain of
their self-identification ("we're intellectuals!!!") ; 2) he was unimpressed by
the rest of
their
http://trilema.com/2016/the-next-generation/ hallucinatio
☟︎ mircea_popescu: who knew
that
the 50% problem exists in
the general!!11
mircea_popescu: spyked
that's exactly why, undernet is almost entirely ro-based.
spyked: (to elaborate: high-speed internet "outside of ro" was accessible mainly
through uni pipes until at least cca 2003 or so; in particular in upb, most of
the networking infrastructure projects were at
the
time due
to one eduard andrei, meanwhile forgotten by
the interwebs)
a111: Logged on 2019-03-11 16:29 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-11#1901354 << spyked - i was
thinking, 'let's make
torrent',
then realized
that
torrent is some (afaik) largely unexplored heathenware, possibly due for a civilized replacement. might be worth expanding on if anyone has free hands.
spyked: returning briefly
to
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-11#1901372 : back in
the early 2000s, most file
transfers in ro were done via local 'dc++' hubs,
the largest hosted in uni politehnica of bucharest campus. wasn't all
that horrible, with
the exception
that orcs had no notion of wot, so
they were all suprised when police started raiding
the dorms (accompanied by "anti-piracy campaign" orchestra, of course)
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-03-12 23:41 mircea_popescu: fwis,
trinque already got one being
tortured for
the past six months ; depending on other workload mebbe BingoBoingo or spyked feel like putting one up also (but very much do not fall into
the
tarpit of chasing butterflies, from one
to
the next and catching none, fellas).
BingoBoingo: I'm back from
the walk. I have an "alfajor oreo" in front of me, and I
the retardartion of
the cunt snot pile still pisses me off.
trinque: in my brief dive I have yet
to find evidence
that anyone on xmpp
talks about anything other
than xmpp
BingoBoingo going for a walk
to unload
this shit from
the head
mircea_popescu: eventually
they did, hence google ended up stuck with it.
BingoBoingo: For something named internet RELAY chat...
the docs make it seem everyone is afraid of adding new relays. Imagine if
the email folks in
the 80-90s instead broke
to
this level of paranoia
BingoBoingo: <mod6> i'll also state
that mine was never huge either. had ~2-3 channels, ~20-25 users.
the biggest
thing I recall was just having enough b/w so peeps stay connected. <<
They all want pipe
BingoBoingo: But as awful as IRC documentation is
the XMPP
thing... I
tried
to read some explanations of what XMPP is and how it works, but
the 2004 era buzzwords and "keep updated" stuff is
thick
BingoBoingo: I feel much dumber and angrier
than I did when seeing
the news of Freenode retardation
BingoBoingo: I have spent a lot of years reading very stupid
things, but reading docs
to
try
to distinguish IRC networks
today...
a111: Logged on 2019-03-12 20:32 diana_coman: learn != reuse code or even
tech
mod6: i'll also state
that mine was never huge either. had ~2-3 channels, ~20-25 users.
the biggest
thing I recall was just having enough b/w so peeps stay connected.
mircea_popescu: trinque in your experience what's
the bottleneck, ram ? cpu ?
mircea_popescu: so basically
the offer for ircnetowkrs is "we're bringing
three boxes"
trinque: sure, if we're
talking about just using own IRC network,
trivial. if we're
talking about peering into an established net, it'll involve some committee of dipshits assenting
mircea_popescu will stand up a muscovy server for hanbot
too, let no oppinion, no matter how earnestly held or freely expressed, pass unpunished.
mircea_popescu: i happen
to
think
this is a
thing
they got right (accidentally, and for purely historical reasons).
a111: Logged on 2019-03-12 22:09
trinque: hanbot: just stood it up for
the sake of exactly
this impending need
mod6:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-12#1901578 << I'll see what I can do about standing up an ircd sometime
this week. It'll
take a bit
to lock down
the conf of
the
thing, but eventually, if all looks good, we should be able
to link up our nodes,
trinque.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: well, irc networks's federating's a five minutes config file settings,
to list your ircd among
the rest
trinque: in my case,
the protocol side of
the
thing is decoupled from my services such
that switching protocols is about a week or
two of work.
trinque: I'll go poking around in public jabber servers and see how lively
they are
mircea_popescu: trinque well, we're "married" in
the sense
that all extant infrastructure's written against it.
mod6: For what I can see, I'm not so certain
that we're married
to IRC, but I suspect
that our bots/loggers are a bit more closely wed
to
the protocol.
trinque: I've run an ejabberd before
too, quite familiar.
mod6: I could stand one up somewhere, my
time is a bit limited
this week. Might have some
time
this weekend.
trinque: this is going
to sound wacky, but how married are we
to IRC? xmpp federates far easier
than IRC.
mod6: I myself used
to run an ircd-hybrid, but
that was srsly like 20 years ago. So I'm not sure how much active knowledge I have on
the subject, currently. Anyway, whatever or where ever we go, it's just a
temporary place until we have gossipd.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-12 18:43 hanbot:
http://trilema.com/2019/the-freenode-issue/ << i'm for moving, seeing no compelling reason
to stay. pinging asciilifeform ave1 ben_vulpes bingoboingo danielpbarron diana_coman lobbes mod6 phf spyked
trinque for inputs.
mod6:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-12#1901514 << I'm of
the
thinking we should move
too; however, I've been
thinking
the same
thing all day, 'where?'. Looks like
the court is investigating some options for existing networks, as well as considering one of our own.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: fwis,
trinque already got one being
tortured for
the past six months ; depending on other workload mebbe BingoBoingo or spyked feel like putting one up also (but very much do not fall into
the
tarpit of chasing butterflies, from one
to
the next and catching none, fellas).
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform far from it. you do your
thing, other people'll do
this
thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, you object
to antique motd ?
mircea_popescu: the correct approach would be
to go in
their admin channels whatever
they are,
talk
to
the ops, see who would welcome more servers.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: EFnet doesn't have passwords for IRC users. Just
their forum
tards. EFnet doesn't provide auth at all.
mircea_popescu: but
the idea is, come up with a network by
tomorrow.
that work ?
mircea_popescu: anyways. im pretty sure
this wasn't answering ~six hours ago.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at first i
thought you went
through
the list of old dns responses/old servers and fished out one inexplicably not on mine
BingoBoingo: Well, been reading docs. EFnet has few.
These networks appear
to in fact promise different
things