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asciilifeform: but the point remains, that microscope does not benefit from use as hammer.
mircea_popescu: the former's sane, the later's of the same ilk as children going to bed in their favourite clothes
mircea_popescu: and wanting everything you do to be driven by your brain.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between wanting to use your brain as a general thing,
asciilifeform: this incidentally is behind 'thinking people want to ~use~ their brains' which mircea_popescu counted as a sin
mircea_popescu: (which, incidentally, is WHY we only care to fuck women < 20something. that's it. after she's moved on to office life, you can have her.)
mircea_popescu: same hit people going to work for a bureaucracy exhibit.
asciilifeform: can't say whether it is a biological effect or simply the matter of being in a room with small children entire day
mircea_popescu: they're not putting forth this theory.
asciilifeform: ask them.
mircea_popescu: how's that supposed to work ?
asciilifeform: don't discount the iq hit apparently imposed by spawning
mircea_popescu: so like 1/12 or somethign lijke that
mircea_popescu: i guess the formula probably is, "the predominance of women best suited for housewifing equals the unit divided by the maximal litter of a woman"
asciilifeform: 'rare' enough to mostly guarantee a tard in every jury box, etc
asciilifeform: by weschler, that is
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: traditionally '70' corresponds to -2 sd, and '85' to -1.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1255216 << the scheme pictured isn't terribly useful for the same reason that dirigibles are difficult to fly. ☝︎
mircea_popescu looks at this
asciilifeform: grind the gaussian.
mircea_popescu: it is rare, yes. look at the normal distribution, between say 88 and maybe 75 you get what, 4% of the population ?
mircea_popescu: it is generally rare to find a woman so stupid her actual optimal level is housewifing.
asciilifeform: from experience with the usual boring specimens of humanity one encounters on the street, in trains, lifts, jury box
mircea_popescu: you talking from books or experience ?
asciilifeform: it works, but in the way a train works - on rails laid down by others.
asciilifeform: ice-cold, as far as i can tell
mircea_popescu: in the sense that her brain works.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the model breaks down on low states. which is why the housewife is such a problem for your approach : she's hot alright.
mircea_popescu: rather than "curing"
asciilifeform: sorta like you can't have chemistry, in the customary electroweak-force sense, happen on the surface of a star.
asciilifeform: from my point of view, proper 'insane' is when someone is so 'hot' that his mind has trouble sticking even to... arithmetic, cause-and-effect, and other knobs of the physical world we live in.
asciilifeform: housewife 'adheres to the mob', yes. but the trait in question (or rather lack thereof) is the ~why~
asciilifeform: (discounting modern folks who walks around pretending to be newton on account of hearing voices, etc)
mircea_popescu: a housewife is exactly that : someone completely adherent to the mob. so much so she can spend all her time with children and not care.
asciilifeform: 'insane' is necessarily a judgement made by the mob
mircea_popescu: that most creative people throughout the ages would prefer to pretend "they're insane" rather than make plain their complete inadherence to the mob is readily understandable
asciilifeform: turn it all the way down - you get a housewife ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i see little more at work than utter contempt for "fellow man" in the common sense this is given.
asciilifeform: he pictured originality in thought as something like the 'temperature' in a simulated-annealing
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 19:34:29; ascii_field: far more interesting is the trait hasn eysenck called 'psychoticism'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-07-2015#1193607 << possibly this ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but what then ?
mircea_popescu: i write the occasional bit of poetry/literature, and i don't either regard it as some sort of gain or myself as insane (for it)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: art is +ev in the artist's diseased head. which is why insanity is a must.
mircea_popescu: so there's a number of different problems with this "ev activity" line of reasoning.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also, art is always and by definition a -ev activity, and people engage in it. for that matter, love and childmaking idem.
punkman: editing text in a console drives me mad
asciilifeform: and it is perhaps just barely possible to program in it without 'who-calls', 'apropos', etc., but certainly not pleasant.
mircea_popescu: o that. well sure.
mircea_popescu: that's the test.
mircea_popescu: this is what being intelligent means : the more intelligent you are, the less often you get more than what you put into things.
mircea_popescu: and re vi - whatever!!1 i used it for years. nowadays i find i mostly use nano. then again nowadays i mostly read other people's reports. ☟︎
asciilifeform: properly sane people, for example, tend to stick to +ev activities.
asciilifeform: today, some degree of lunacy is almost a basic bar for being willing to touch the cursed machine in the first place.
mircea_popescu: in computing (the actual kind) the record's not as bad as in most other disciplines.
mircea_popescu: in this field ?!
asciilifeform: more mundanely, sane folks tend to not end up famous.
mircea_popescu: and yes, the "scam money rots your brain" think is also a very powerful theory. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: not that i'm persuaded, but one can't not notice the coincidence.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neither of the folks you named encountered it as a young man
mircea_popescu: maybe you're right, and it's incidentals. or maybe lisp to the young mind is like meth-lsd
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2014 21:40:36; *: asciilifeform had a dream many years ago that his grandfather took an ancient grinding wheel from workshop, turned it upside-down, and taught him to ride it. and now people actually do something quite like this.
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 12:16:01; mats: http://www.gliderzz.com I have been seeing these around a lot lately
asciilifeform: not sure if this adds anything to mircea_popescu's line of thought, but it is known that paul graham wrote common lisp programs using... vi. this drives me to barking madness after five minutes, and it is difficult to picture what brain might look like after a whole year of it, or what said brain must have looked like to even contemplate doing such a thing.
asciilifeform: in the very best case, the result looks like tommy aquinas.
asciilifeform: it is impossible to do anything like proper thinking with sc4mz0rated priors
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: graham is an illustration of something else: the corrosive effect of taking scam-money, regardless of the purpose, on intellectual honesty and in turn intelligence itself
asciilifeform: punkman: 'arc.' it turned out to consist of standard scheme with shortened operator.
punkman: asciilifeform: he had his own lisp and I think he published the code that ran HN at some point
mircea_popescu: this "take one side of the story and run with it" is speciufic of ambitious if none too bright 15 yo boys.
mircea_popescu: 2) graham spent his mind on thinking about lisp, ended up a 60 yo too fucktarded to understand even the most basic points of math.
mircea_popescu: 1) naggum spent his mind on thinking about lisp, ended up a 40year old too fucktarded to get out of the rain. this is literally what happened, and one will have a lot of trouble talking around the failure of some guy to avoid dying of perforated ulcer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform look at this perhaps very worrisome set of two examples.
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 13:57:20; mircea_popescu: i thought graham was supposed to be a competent old lisp hand. is this the brainrot lisp instills in people ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1255288 << he wrote a textbook on basic common lisp for schoolchildren once. i still have it. can't comment on his programmatic work, afaik none of it has ever been published openly... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: afaik they're about as fucktardedly puritan as the anglos
mircea_popescu: i never knew the russians to be czech minded.
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 13:29:33; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1255201 << is that soft pr0n on his monitor ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1255266 << sadly my copy of the book has a blank screen... ☝︎
asciilifeform: (lengthy blackhole periods apparent to naked eye, in log)
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is with these people omfg.
mircea_popescu: so techniucally it'd be an improvement. and if he stops eating at all and instead starts puking edible vomit like some sort of invertebrate cornucopia, he might even be socially useful FOR ONCE IN HIS SAD EXISTENCE
mircea_popescu: rather than the 99.94% his piece of shit "ventures" are currently.
mircea_popescu: he's so hyperfucktarded, he's only going to be 50% behind actual entrepreneurs.
mircea_popescu: Now suppose you're so un-rapacious that you only extract half as much from your users as you could. That means two years later you'll be making $80k a month instead of $160k. How far behind are you? How long will it take to catch up with where you'd have been if you were extracting every penny? A mere 15 weeks. After two years, the un-rapacious founder is only 3.5 months behind the rapacious one."
mircea_popescu: "Some examples will make this clear. Suppose your company is making $1000 a month now, and you've made something so great that it's growing at 5% a week. Two years from now, you'll be making about $160k a month.
mircea_popescu: i thought graham was supposed to be a competent old lisp hand. is this the brainrot lisp instills in people ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: p, and when anything grows at the rate of a successful startup, the Y axis will take care of itself."
mircea_popescu: "I told him not to worry about it, because so long as he built something good enough to spread by word of mouth, he'd have a hyperlinear growth curve. If he was bad at extracting money from people, at worst this curve would be some constant multiple less than 1 of what it might have been. But a constant multiple of any curve is exactly the same shape. The numbers on the Y axis are smaller, but the curve is just as stee
mircea_popescu: /0xfe6404ba34ea4c30538ff4d058f4bf883220fd79 is the fucking aliens, how about that.
mircea_popescu: fucking monkeys already. so he fucks up, once by getting involved in a piece of shit scam, the other for sucking at math. and what he wants to know ain't "i wonder how i could be less fucktarded" at any point.
mircea_popescu: dude what the fuck is wrong with these broken minds.
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 11:36:42; btcdrak: mircea_popescu: I know your views about XTcoin, but what are your views about raising the blocksize limit by proper technical consensus and released through Bitcoin Core?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1255258 << what kako said, with the rider that the proposed thing carried exactly zero support by the people named. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that's her right nipple and her left tit under that pinkish mess.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1255201 << is that soft pr0n on his monitor ? ☝︎☟︎
kakobrekla: segway without the handle stick?
assbot: Gliderz - Personal Transportation Devices – Gliderzz ... ( http://bit.ly/1ErezUW )
mats: http://www.gliderzz.com I have been seeing these around a lot lately ☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 19:24:23; mircea_popescu: incidentally ascii_field mod6 kakobrekla jurov & mike_c do let me know if you'd like me to publish http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1240297 on trilema as "b-a's notion of a block increasing hardfork".