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that
the nick maxlen is 9. I'll have
to recompile, probably
tomorrow.
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pehbot: asciilifeform: I am PehBot. My Width is currently fixed
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mircea_popescu: in other news,
these diana_coman compilation notes are just sad. wtf is wrong with people, "portable" and "support" seem
to only support fucking nonsense, and quite selectively at
that.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( mircea_popescu , observe, does not have
to buy bulldozer. not even in argentina are people fucked enuff in
the head
to ask MOAR for lease of bulldozer, genset, etc
than
to BUY ) << And
the caterpillar store here neither sells nor rents earthmoving equipment, instead sells girls outdoor fashions
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 20:39 asciilifeform: ( who even into '70s persisted in a belief
that
there's 'amazing su
tech' worth fishing out of e.g. sunken su sub , with howard hughes' mega-boat )
mircea_popescu: whether in city or behind autofiring
turret line, still open q.
mircea_popescu: there's a ready stream of distractions available
to distract
thre willing from
the much plainer and closer
to nose fact
that we'll go
to bottom of
the sea if we don't, eg, manage
to get pizarro going properly. etc.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 23:32 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1902010 << fucking precisely. watching #trilema from a distance, with imbecile "skepticism" is not a free option. should it fail,
there goes computing, and generally speaking
this is
the one chance
this century.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 23:28 mircea_popescu: eg, s.nsa is more of a factory, in objective
terms,
than
tractorul brasov ever was or could have been. it's what it is,
these days "factory" is complex item.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 22:59 diana_coman: quite;
there was a bit of an anger moment when I realised
that in school
they never even *mentioned*
those writings of Caragiale, let alone study
them
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 22:27 mircea_popescu: or a hruscheba, or w/e
the fuck
they call it. makes entirely no difference, for
the vast majority of
the population of romania at
the
time had never lived in paved dwellings.
mircea_popescu: not because of some sort of deviousness
though. just sheer decay, morons resplendent.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:41 asciilifeform: i wonder whether usg even bothers
to ask ro 'democratic' apparatus when it feels like moving
the 'aegis' batteries from place
to place
mircea_popescu: india can't start mpex production in a millenium,
though. and even simpler
things -- notice how much fucking work all sorta
things we do
take us.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 23:27 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1902001 <<
the problematic
things here are miniaturization and
technologization.
there's relatively little need or use for
the sort of "factory" as displayed in 1950s italian films. and besides, india can have
those.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:27 asciilifeform: as for
the old shoemaker, admittedly i never wore a crown, but afaik folx who wear crowns do not have
the option of saying 'we lost options'. sorta like
the
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663960 thing.
mircea_popescu: exact same case of fucktarded "washington press reps dinner" pantsuit meeting ro head, being laughed at. but in
the former case gorby was still answering for it ; whereas in
the latter i have yet
to see
the apologetics for ~the failure~.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:22 diana_coman: I meant it lost its options really; and having an uppity peasant "rule" is not going
to change
that, only make it likely worse and longer
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:22 asciilifeform: (
tito -- imho genius, somehow pulled off 'communized heavy industry, but private biz for food etc' )
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1902039 <<
this was widely admired, whole "third way" 80s wank. i find
the proposition dubious, in
the sense
that it strictly depends on
the yugo ~people~ being a certain kind. just
the right mix of crazy and dedicated. worked out
terribly in 94
too.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:21 asciilifeform: going upstack
to
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1902021 , oddly enuff per my reading ro ~was~ sovereign during post-stalin sovok. i.e. routinely pissed right in
the mouth of e.g. hrusch, and got away scot-free
mircea_popescu: considering
the cost of
the deception, and
the ultimately negligible actual results...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform only because
they communitardized in colonies first.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:17 asciilifeform: ~that~ goes straight
to becoming an africa.
mircea_popescu: ie, "land is no longer
this
thing
the noble owns as his
thing
to own. land is now a sort of community chest,
that
the state owns, and maybe noble continues as its steward a while"
mircea_popescu: "We mean
to value all
the land in
the kingdom Now, what is going
to happen in
the future? In future
those landlords will have
to contribute
to
the
taxation of
the country on
the basis of
the real value - only one halfpenny in
the pound!"
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 22:46 mircea_popescu: incidentally alf, ludwig 2 of bavaria is a fine example re
this wot. one day decided
to ditch his cabinet --
the cabinet decided it'd better ditch him first!!!
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 22:44 mircea_popescu: (i also fail
to hear
these "cultured" fucktards explain how ~exactly
the same~ was said of what now makes
the glory of austria,
that insane dood's palaces)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 05:18 mircea_popescu: long story short, soviet kids integrated into youth culture faster
than soviet state integrated "soviet world" ;
the result was
the failure of
the soviet state.
mircea_popescu: in
the end,
there's
two major functions of leadership in human society. one is
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-12#1880251 (generally called "economy") and
the other is, synchronization, as in, selection of schelling points.
this is usualyl called culture, but it's a large
thing, including
tropes and all sorta manner of
thing.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 22:35 diana_coman: not
to mention how many were full of mould
to
the point
that you'd get children with asthma and what not
mircea_popescu: even
though economy had ~died,
the 70s east cultural clock still synchronized a lot closer
to reality
than
the 70s west cultural clock.
☟︎ diana_coman: born in
the 30s was educated 40s-50s, rather mostenire as it were.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:14 asciilifeform: e.g. ro, lost its sovereignty , and arguably
the bill for ~that~ aint even remotely paid yet, nao it hosts nato rockets and became legit
target for ru defensive systems
mircea_popescu: that woman, born i'd guess in
the 30s, was
the daughther.
mircea_popescu: he is ~absolutely correct~,
too.
the actual fuel, for communism's efficiency and persuasion, was precisely
the reservoir he identifies : ". Și cîți aliați devotați n'ar găsii în captivii de cari pomenim mai sus, sătui de a-și călca mereu pe cuget și pe inimă, de a-și jertfi zilnic, pe altarul minciunii și inichității, convingerile lor adînci, dragostea de adevăr și de patrie !." is ===
http://trilema.com/20 mircea_popescu: but yes,
the history of
the "free world" closely approximates
the history of a bunch of morons. because guess what --
they ARE a bunch of morons.
mircea_popescu: (this largely consisted of "let's give oil
to shell and with money build carlton bloc hurr durr".)
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:06 asciilifeform: so you
try an' make a 'new'. and pray
that it worx, before 'a bunch of foreigners land on your shores, buy up some local chiefs, chop down your forests, rip
the minerals out of your soil, enslave a few generations, and eventually go home, leaving
their bastards in charge'
mircea_popescu: new man happens when old man chooses
to be so fucking stupid as
to not meaningfully exist in any sense.
mircea_popescu: the fucking morons ~opted~ for evil, and
then went about as if
their pretending "they didn't opt" makes it BE
THE CASE
they did not so opt.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 17:02 mircea_popescu: consider
the
traditional antisemitism -- a cluster of lumphocytes around a very real problem, yes, but SUBJECTIVE PROBLEM OF
THE JEWS. not irritating "the organism" as such in any sense, beyond
the very obvious an' deeply human "you folk can't be
this fucking stupid!"
thing a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:05 asciilifeform: 'new man' is what happens when 'old man' dun want
to get off his horse, basta, donotwant