asciilifeform: ( if diana_coman indicates today that she wants to play with kernels, naturally leave kvm in )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo : tomorrow morning , plox to visit the cellar and carefully remove the ipkvm from the box, and cut mains to the ipkvm; also remove the usb stick from said box.
asciilifeform: all in all this was quite a bit! closer to an automatic process than asciilifeform expected ! nifty piece of work, trinque . ( yes it had typo , and a few minor uglies i'll comment on later, but overall -- worx , ~unmodified, or at least would if i had a fully demodularized kernel )
asciilifeform: * trinque's ~kernel~ builder << to be specific
asciilifeform: diana_coman ( or mircea_popescu ) plox to gpggram a ssh pubkey
asciilifeform: however the box is online at 161.0.121.202 & ready for cuntoo userland's alpha testing . ( 1st thing you will want to do is prolly to install ave1's gnat . )
asciilifeform: currently i am not able to make use of trinque's builder ( even though i fed it my kernel config verbatim ) as it does not handle the building and installation of the ramdisk where modules live ( dulap kernel is not presently cleansed of modulism )
asciilifeform: soooooo diana_coman , mircea_popescu , i was able to bring up the box strictly by copying over a copy of my own dulap kernel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: part of the 'fun' is that asciilifeform is working through a ipkvm box at something like mars lander latency
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nic on dulap was dead for a good 3 minutes.
asciilifeform: in other omissions in trinque's cuntoo : lspci util. ( kernel build, box dun see nic, and i have no means of determining what the actual nic is, without again resetting into the live stick )
asciilifeform: modern cn is big on the 'soft power' thing. i suppose calculated that it is cheaper to give the anglos toys and wait for'em to self-euthanize, than to war.
asciilifeform: possibly same reason brits refined opium for chinese.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu's 'tin woman' essay has the complete story re subj. while printing press prints, making comp for mircea_popescu 'aint big biznis', making ipnoje for lolcat and britney watchers -- is
asciilifeform: hey, printing press keeps a-printin', why would they confront any such thing
asciilifeform: with some admixture of 'maybe ~this~ generation of lusers is dumb enuff'
asciilifeform: yet somehow, like '3d movie theatre', gets 'rediscovered' again & again.
asciilifeform: 'why to watch the d00d on the line sweat?' believe or not, discovered even then.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff , in usa at&t built a 'video phone' in the 1960s (!) . had to upgrade trunk cabling in entire country to make it thinkable ( the orig 't1' line dates to this period . ) net # of takers was... approx 0
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: aah there you are. get thee to the dc cellar, and plox to ping back.
asciilifeform: just as implied in the name. 'turn net into cable tv'.
asciilifeform: it is an intrinsically chumpatronic artifact.
asciilifeform: point was, i suspect that there cannot be such a thing as 'sane video www', there is elementarily no way to pay for the necessary bw with honest money
asciilifeform generally has nfi, doesn't actively follow subj
asciilifeform: incl. 'warcraft' films, whichever terrifying bonfires of bandwidth.
asciilifeform: speaking 'lolcats' generally, inclusive of these
asciilifeform: picture this, luser gets to load 500MB just for the asking, and sometimes without even asking ( background tab etc crapola )
asciilifeform: it is worse than mircea_popescu likely fathoms; asciilifeform suspects that the bandwidth for lolcat watchers to watch the lolcats is 100% bezzle-powered, there does not exist anything like a +ev model for pushing video to all-comers
asciilifeform: right, but there's also a layer of obscene hacks to make the actual compressed frames ride somehow atop http etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: does there actually exist a 'youtube video format' or do they use the 'html5' horror ?
asciilifeform: the schoolboy explanation, 'money went with ibm/microshit', dun hold water, xerox had ~infinite moneys, ditto texas instruments ( 1 of the largest semiconductor houses of its time ) , made 0 diff
asciilifeform: subj is perennially fascinating to asciilifeform , how all of the folx with actually promising ideas re comp, withered away and died in '80s, leaving crapple & microshit.
asciilifeform: in the '80s, sony (yes) tried to make a latex that natively writes to a screen. ('sony news' workstation). i dunno how well it worked, they got out of comp biznis..
asciilifeform: the obvious headache being , that there does not currently exist anything resembling a sane format that it could shit.
asciilifeform: at the very minimum, would need some way to actually use ( display, print ? ) the thing that it outputs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: conceivably latex can be cured. iirc phf has a slow-burning march in that direction.
asciilifeform: phf also documented some other corruptions of latex in recent decade, but the details currently escape me, iirc in the log somewhere
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-11#1833483 << lulzily, it 'started hygienic' because outputted ancient oddball format, 'dvi', which was eaten by certain classic phototypesetters. but afaik the only way to display it on current linux is via conversion to postscript/pdf. which in turn pulls in liquishit.☝︎
