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asciilifeform: ( where yarvin ? e.g. here : https://archive.is/ouesj , https://archive.is/PDQC8 << originals wiped in '17, as if that does sumthing )
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking thing was whether they get to follow the other sheep down the precipice or have to sit in the rancho.
mircea_popescu: eak currency to rebuy this.
mircea_popescu: in other obscura : meanwhile i located the clou of the issue. in april 1960, at cluj, gh gh dej stated the party recognizes the right of writers to express themselves "în limbajul epocii noastre" ("in the language of our times"). WHOLE fucking dispute is EXACTLY over whether the ro pantsuits get to the-dreamers or don't get to the-dreamers ; and protestations of unawareness and "vhs america" are suddewnly extrehehehehemely w
mircea_popescu: it looks like <feedbot> http://trilema.com/2019/so-why-cant-they-be-trained/#comment-128333 << Comments for Trilema -- Comment on So why can't they be trained ? by Stanislav Datskovskiy
mircea_popescu always answers comments (so will refrain from pointing this out on case by case basis) as well as sees new comments via feedbot rss (so there';s nothing gained by pointing one out to him)
asciilifeform could not resist to bite , http://trilema.com/2019/so-why-cant-they-be-trained/#comment-128333
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/so-why-cant-they-be-trained/ << Trilema -- So why can't they be trained ?
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nOo9j/?raw=true << moar re ch17 'verdicts', in re earlier thrd.
BingoBoingo: Policeman White see fellow on Nazi watchlist "I've killed those fuckers in xBawks game", Policeman Brown sees fellow on Obama is an animal watchlist "I ought to buy the man a beer and compare notes"
BingoBoingo: Well someone who wants a reich is easy to put on a USG.lolcow watchlist. Someone who identifies Obama as an animal risks getting sympathy from the folks employed reading USG watchlists.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect that's more acceptabru.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 15:28 mircea_popescu: well, thgat didn't last : "A custom field was removed from your nation as it was found to be in violation of site policy: animal: "Obama"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902910 << bahahahaha. and pretty sure this is recent (relatively), usedtobe all sortsa folx had 4th, 5th, reiches, in there ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 13:20 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902744 -> I never understood why can't the new ones be *trained* ; esp since it's not like they are sososo busy that they can't use the time and learn something at work.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902841 << because their mental eh what the hell, ima write an article. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and this before we even discuss capacity factors (high drop like there necessarily has low capacity factors, low drop like here the opposite)
mircea_popescu: (at the time this was completed, early 70s, it was pretty much the largest hydro plant in the world). hoover dam, for instance, had <2MW installed capacity, vs the >2MW here.
mircea_popescu: whence the difference ? they're halves, aren't they ? here's the lulz : romania bought newer, nominally more efficient generating equipment.
mircea_popescu: the romanian side produces ~5.2 TWh per year. the serbian side, ~5.7 TWh.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, since hydro was mentioned yest : one of the largest hydro development in europe is the "iron gates" complex, partnership between romania and serbia, taking advantage of danube.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/03/usg-burns-delayed-notice-warrants-to-place-cameras-in-massage-parlor-for-prostitution-bust/ << Qntra -- USG Burns "Delayed Notice Warrants" To Place Cameras In Massage Parlor For Prostitution Bust
BingoBoingo: In the limited time I do remember it exists, I simply try to drive up crime and weapon ownership per capita
BingoBoingo: The fallout from the decisions has degraded in sensibility over time.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo my interest didn't survive the hour. turns out it's yet another by-morons for-morons thingee.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> https://www.nationstates.net/nation=al-khadhulu << in other keks. << For a lawless wasteland they aren't even all that well armed https://www.nationstates.net/nation=bingotonia
mircea_popescu: perhaps time to start talking of copy-right and demo-cracy etc.
mircea_popescu: speakinbg of which, anyone remember the set of "anti-bitcoin" tards grouped around usg.pantsuit office over at "something awful" going about talking of "bit-coin" as fucking if that did something ?
mircea_popescu: imagine these fucktards! i can't call my imaginary nation's imaginary animal the same as that other imaginary nation's equally imaginary animal!
mircea_popescu: Please familiarize yourself with the site rules on acceptable content. Restoring a mod-deleted custom field may result in your nation's deletion."
mircea_popescu: well, thgat didn't last : "A custom field was removed from your nation as it was found to be in violation of site policy: animal: "Obama" ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( moar spoilers : the other added item, other than 'registers' (discussed previously) is 'verdict'. all tapes produce a verdict, it is returned to calling process under unixlikes )
asciilifeform: to use ,/; as 'goto' is stylistically prohibited, if tape leaves control stack nonempty at the end of the life, operator gets a warning.
asciilifeform: the applicable traditional mathematical model for peh is 'turing with finite tapes'(tm)
asciilifeform: this is 'forth-like' just like the rest of the mechanism.
asciilifeform: controlstack is over- and under-flow proof , similarly to the data stack from ch4-16.
asciilifeform: ( ';' is meant to be used with subroutines (ch18) but can also be used to make 'infinite' loop, as illustrated in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902388 . 'life' being typically finite, program still halts ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: btw , crib sheet for http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902386 -- ':' puts current position on control stack; ',' pops a fz from datastack , a tape pos from controlstack, and if the fz was nonzero, control is transferred to the popped pos. ';' simply pops the next pos from controlstack. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i think it's fine as it is.
asciilifeform: anyway if neither mircea_popescu nor anyone else files an objection today, it'll be 256 ( at least for the next few chapters ) .
asciilifeform: ( for n00bs/readers -- ffa has fully deterministic memory footprint, by design, and 100% of what it'll use, lives on the stack, e.g. under unixlikes, setbrk() is not invoked )
asciilifeform: at one time i was considering to make it adjustable on cmdline, but already have 4 params the user must give ( fz bitness, datastack height, max 'life' , and tapespace len ) and that's already much, calculating exact footprint for given invocation already requires thought
asciilifeform: orig. i had it set to 8, but decided that's unjustifiably spartan
asciilifeform: recursion is incidentally prohibited, so there aint much point imho in gigantic controlstack
asciilifeform: thing is, if you turn this knob, you can write a tape that's incompatible with someone who hasn't turned
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think 256 is perfectly defensible. should be obvious what knob to twiddle for less or more anyway, admitting either one's trying to make ffa fit into tiny embed or use it for who knows what unforeseen purpose on large machines. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( ffa does not deal directly in octets , the smallest access to storage is in unit of bus width. hence endianism-free )
asciilifeform: 256 * 64bit on this particular machine, e.g.
asciilifeform: they hold tape positions (these are of bus width)
asciilifeform: would like to discuss before i sign the ch
asciilifeform: i'd like to request 5min of mircea_popescu wearing papal regalia . ch17 ffa , as perhaps was clear from http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902386 , has a control-transfer stack ( for loops & subroutines . ) it, like errything else, is nonheapistic, therefore has a fixed size. currently set to 256. this constant gotta be nailed down. is 256 enuff? too small? too big ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i am actually clicking through choices here lol.
asciilifeform: lol i remember that site, was popular before 'www game' state of art converged to lolcat
mircea_popescu: the west states << obv i mean east states, penn, ny, mass & co
mircea_popescu: one could argue all those gunslingers died in vain.
mircea_popescu: who's to say it wouldn't have been better, tbh. note how the "equal to capitol" german colony they ended up ~is very much reverting~. they got the matriarchy back, they got the stupid-lazy-itsok back, hard to distinguish today's "american" from yesterday's cherokee.
mircea_popescu: aha. and french period mags for kids are fulla "indian-sympathy" pieces (the french had a very unique take to the gibbering nations among colonial powers, they wanted to make america a sorta africa, "continue traditions undisturbed")
asciilifeform: ddr also filmed surprisingly large pile of lulwesterns ('easterns' to aficionados)
mircea_popescu: this said, the french (and somewhat italian, hence all their lolwesterns) 50s/60s "wild west" fixation did in fact produce an abstract (and not much related to any reality) euro-cowboy, sure.
mircea_popescu: in ~this sense~ us cowboy started wearing ~a little~ denim as the west states textile industry developped. originally it was miner garb. then it was extended to make tent sheet for army. THEN it was taken by cowboy to replace the much more expensive LEATHER the spanish were wearing.
mircea_popescu: re the "cowboy stuff" : all the us "wild west" stuff is a cheap and quick daghuerotype after spanish traditions of the time. this is visible if one studies say the horse working (this is a term of art) as practiced in spanish-speaking lands comparatively to english-speaking lands. everything is visibly a model to scale, and to this day the cultural overwhelm of spanish lands in all fields related is overwhelming.
diana_coman: not as if it's specific romanian this, sadly.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I'm quite sure it's clearly visible in today's western socialism too.
asciilifeform: reminded me of old interesting tidbit http://trilema.com/2017/%D0%9A%D1%82%D0%BE-%D1%82%D1%8B-%D0%BF%D0%BE-%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B8/#selection-393.0-397.127
mircea_popescu: fuck, the exact process is visible both among a subset of trilema commenters during the romanian years and superset of other-romanian-bloggers, then as now.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-14 09:56 spyked: diana_coman, I suspect this was mostly a case of "revision is well-received, but don't change anything"; which is why iliescu/fsn had so much support and average derp saw the taranisti as "way too mean" (no idea precisely what "mean" means, that's what I've been told)
diana_coman: linking it back up, the breakup of the cosy place for the clever idler was I suspect precisely what they meant by "mean" in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902449 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the important part, to my eyes, is to underscore that the "being clever" was NOT, as the "clever" in question silently ie implicitly misrepresent, a case of "choice", ie, "seeing how little i get paid i react thusly". the "clever" in question was very much what such "clever" ever is : "seeing what a fucktard i am, this is what i could pretend is '''really''' going on to not have to confront it".
mircea_popescu: well, not you, lol. just tryina put the implicit explicitly for the innocent reader.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, note that I worded it precisely in *that* order, starting with "noi ne" . I don't know what/who you are arguing there, lol.
mircea_popescu: so no, it's not "ei se X, noi ne Y". it's very much the other way around : noi ne Z (=ne cacam pe noi), ei fac ce pot sa se prefaca ca de fapt nu.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, instead of saying "the party is ~exactly truthful~ in what we ~falsely~ call propaganda, and we are making here WAY the fuck more than we could anywhere else, and without it we'd be exactly like zaire", they came up with bs.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, no argument there, lol.
mircea_popescu: this tendency perpetuated past the shooting, and is visible in eg http://trilema.com/2010/piinea-amara-a-baietasilor-de-cartier/#selection-35.0-47.232
mircea_popescu: in ACTUAL FACT, romanian worker of the 80s got ~120% the value of his labour, by an over-welfarist government, wrote himself hallucinated options to consider this "insufficient" to an entirely ridiculous standard, and proceeded from there with a web of lies.
diana_coman: ah, it wasn't that they could do work, no; it was that they knew they did not it
mircea_popescu: this "i could do work ~if i wanted to~" is the unconvincing bullshit spewing quite naturally out of any inept narcissist since before the invention of the word.
diana_coman: ftr in my experience it's not only a lack of practical experience but literally, they have no real idea re what they are supposedly selling, it's all the same to them, what.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 02:31 mircea_popescu: i have doubts it'll survive the passing of the current generation, the girlies in the shop are utterly confused at proceedings that seem only natural to her and me, but what can you do.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902744 -> I never understood why can't the new ones be *trained* ; esp since it's not like they are sososo busy that they can't use the time and learn something at work. ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902694 -> I always thought jeans were cowboy stuff, not miner; and at least initially part of the "waiting for the americans" i.e. a tribute to an imagined greatness; how it morphed afterwards into an uniform I have no idea. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-15 02:00 mircea_popescu: yes, romanians thought "theyt're working". they were playing, 9 cases out of 10.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-15#1902641 -> "noi ne facem ca muncim, ei se fac ca ne platesc" (we pretend we work, they pretend they pay us); so I'd say it was more the case that there were a few actually working and all the rest being clever; just like now in a different socialism. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: was it the prolegomene ? no such wonder there. was it then the kritik, ~only book anyone can even name anyway ? mnope. WHAT COULD IT BE!!!
mircea_popescu: then they wonder why sokal had ~0 measurable impact. duh.
mircea_popescu: whole internet fulla references to a purely imaginary object, that ironically enough discusses... ITSELF.
mircea_popescu: plete annihilation of all these fanciful achievements could not possibly be as harmful as this fictitious science with its accursed fertility.") and have them source teh original german.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in today's installment of "how to fuck over internet scholars" : take the chunk popper attributes to kant ("I do not wish to hide the fact that I can only look with repugnance . . upon the puffed-up pretentiousness of all these volumes filled with wisdom, such as are fashionable nowadays. For I am fully satisfied that . . the accepted methods must endlessly increase these follies and blunders, and that even the com
a111: Logged on 2019-03-14 23:42 mircea_popescu: ault. this is what the mass-romanian is and does, nobody is needed to "do it to him", much like nobody's needed to drag shit into lelea saveta's cunt. she does it, by herself, every time she wipes.
mircea_popescu shall finally offer http://trilema.com/2011/mircea-eliade/#selection-43.0-43.498 to round off the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902603 lulz. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: auburndale << auburndale, queens, for the record.
asciilifeform bbl, ffaisms then bed
asciilifeform: 'but then what for!!'
asciilifeform: it'd be, iguess, like to ask christian to stop believing in gate of heaven
mircea_popescu: recall that scammy fuckwit graham's piece about how "talking is too much trouble" ?
mircea_popescu: it's, literally, TOO MUCH WORK, to dislike miami.
mircea_popescu: in any case, the one thing contemporary tard is trained for, is to NOT make decisions and NOT decide investments.
BingoBoingo: Here it's torta frita. I'd go for some pork rinds. Like in old country
asciilifeform: odd, for a chix, they're supposed to have good nose
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> somehow, have working taste buds, or seem to << The Peruana is much better at composing flavors into food than I am, but... her sense of smell just might be weaker than mine