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assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 19:20:34; asciilifeform: if you ask for a closing door, or
to work remotely, it is usually seen as a demand
to play
tetris instead of work.
williamdunne: Newton Abbot has 12 people, and I'm one of
them
pete_dushenski: is
the word 'pioneer' really so ambigious
that michael eric dyson honestly beleebs it applies
to 'black
twitter's hashtag activism' ?
cazalla: pete_dushenski, is
that right now?
pete_dushenski: "“Black
Twitter” may be infamous for scorning white women like Rachel Dolezal who
think
they are black, but it has also pioneered
the idea of hashtag activism, such as #SayHerName, which highlighted
the invisibility of black women in discussions of police violence in black communities, or #SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen, with its allusion
to
tensions between black and white feminists,
to offer but
two examples."
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Never
thought I'd see my hometown mentioned on #b-a..
pete_dushenski: cazalla: any idea why
the footnote brackets after "wrecking" show up on
the preview of
that last qntra article but not on
the full page ?
mircea_popescu: He did whatever he could
to enforce
the clauses of
the contract, including
taking away Mary's shoes
to keep her from leaving
the house without permission."
mircea_popescu: Mary Way agrees
to wear warm woolen underclothing and keep herself warm in winter. Mary Way agrees never
to go out without Oliver Heaviside's permission. Mary Way agrees never
to give anything away without Oliver Heaviside's permission.
mircea_popescu: "Friends were astonished
that Mary allowed her house guest
to control her.
They were even more astonished when she showed
them
the contract
that Heaviside had insisted she sign which, among other clauses stipulated
that:
mircea_popescu: her
to write
to her friends and family and insist
that
they not visit her, he also demanded
that she never leave
the house without permission.
The exact reason for his possessiveness is not really clear considering
that he was largely asexual
throughout his lifetime. Still, his brutal
treatment of Mary Way or why she allowed
the abuse
to continue seems impossible
to understand even
today."
mircea_popescu: "To get Heaviside away from Newton Abbot, his brother Charles arranged for him
to live with his sister-in-law, Mary Way, at her home in Devon. Since Mary lived alone, having
the eccentric Heaviside live upstairs from her seemed like a good idea. Unfortunately,
things got even more bizarre at
that point. Heaviside insisted on
treating Mary as a slave despite her being
the owner of
the house. Not only did he order
☟︎ mircea_popescu: but anyway, a better question, who's
the hottie in
the gray shirt.
mircea_popescu: (the other
thing is
that while
the audience is struggly
to follow [some appear
to merely struggle
to appear
to be struggling
to follow], or
to even see, brin has
this very clearly cut disapproving disappointment on his face, like a major stupidity was just uttered and well...
they'll never know.
☟︎ cazalla: check out asian beaker in
the middle
mircea_popescu: i've dealt out reprimands for moving at
the wrong
time etc.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 19:09:30; asciilifeform: i, for instance, can't
think about any deep problem when in a place where human speech is happening, or bodies are in motion.
phf: that's actually mikhail brin in checkered shirt on
the left of
the large woman in questionable outfit
☟︎ trinque: I'm going with PSU professors receiving LGBBQT sensitivity
training.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 18:20:42; asciilifeform:
trinque:
there is not a handy answer
to 'what should culture man stuck in a dying civilization do'
mircea_popescu: suffice it
to say your interpretation of history is far from uncontroversial.
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 18:17:58; asciilifeform:
then
they lost a war and got culturally annihilated and enslaved by
the anglos.
phf: the
title is "40 devils and one green fly"
phf: i remember
that we were actually
taught how
to properly
treat
teachers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcZgoOyalaI amusingly i'd never seen
that short on
tv, it would always play during "entertainment break" when
they would send us
to a school movie hall
to watch random stuff
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 18:07:41; asciilifeform: what great cultural products ought i look for from
the sellers of crack ?
mircea_popescu: cazalla
the irony being
that once
that's on
the ground,
the actual ideal
the progres derp about is readily realised.
trinque: the "tech head of whatever" emailed
the angry bureaucrat and explained
that it was not even hacking
cazalla: some students earn A's while others can only earn C's
type of
thing we have here, whereas in public high school - all must strive
to earn A's while none actually can
trinque: they wanted
to expel me for
that one
trinque: so I showed people how
to do
that, ended up kerry was some absurdly high number, bush was negative same
trinque: thing supposedly prevented double voting in
the UI but just posted
http integers somewhere
cazalla: i regret
that high school was not similar
to
this place.. come each day because i want
to as do other students as do other
teachers, actually learn something
type of
thing
trinque: I once found a
trivial flaw in a java applet some idiot put
together for a "mock 2004 presidential election"
phf: but
the whole punishment lasted maybe half hour! "the incident has been noted in your personal file", not even parents called
mircea_popescu: ah such great country names for a book
these'd be. checkoslavia. yugoslovakia. austrogermany.
phf: kakobrekla: i did
that grade 9 i
think, which was apparently not age appropriate
kakobrekla: >throwing
those into
teachers from
the
top of a entrance < o yeah i did
that
too. only in elementary.
mircea_popescu: they can either
transsexualize or perish, whatevs. how's
the soy crops ?
mircea_popescu: trinque well yeah, because
the usg has figured
that hey, we don't keep males for
the herds of goats, sheep, cattle etc except maybe 1:100. with modern insemination
techniques more like 1:500. why should we keep so many males in human herd ?
trinque: mircea_popescu:
that was
the
thing criminalized at my public school, certainly
cazalla: trinque, i
threatened
to shoot a bunch of kids at my school via icq.. made front page of local rag and blurred out face on local
tv, no name
though :\ probably get 10 years like
that isis kid
these days
☟︎ mircea_popescu: fine and quite healthy for adolescent boys
to have planned out how
to massacre
the lot of
them.
mircea_popescu: yeah, cause
the
teacher was
this "placeholder enemy" of sorts. like cats play with
the nail sharpening pole.
mircea_popescu: i suppose
the only people in a similar position are
the ex
terrorist israelis.
cazalla: flogged..
took a while for me
to figure out my father did
that not for anything related
to
taking
the screwdriver
to school
trinque: my friend was busted for precisely
that, some kind of "cyber
terrorism" for sending a joke
threat email with
the headers changed
to look like it came from faculty
cazalla: i brought a screwdriver in
the early 90s.. confiscated, parents called
trinque: not a
terrorist charge eh?
mircea_popescu: a) nobody cared and b)
this really was more in line with "chemistry experiment"
than whatever orc derpage goes on in us ghetto.
mircea_popescu: brought an airgun
to school, and shot a nutsized hole in
the blackboard.
mircea_popescu: for instance : a guy i've recently
talked
to again after many years, who is now a reasonably respected
thinker in his field,
mircea_popescu: but
the real difficulty, is explaining
the actual reality
to people who already have been suplied a falsificating convention
to misinterpret it with. like
the case above discussed with
the purpose of
the railcar pushing face.
trinque: we got into some fun of
that nature in
the last
two years. one can learn a lot about computers bored as hell in
TX public school, if he's awake
trinque: I was only permitted
this in senior year, and unofficially
mircea_popescu: trinque
throughout my hs i was what you'd call a honors student with ~1/3 attendance.
phf: there's no equivalent in u.s., i've not seen anything remotely similar yet anyway. particularly
those dedicated "nerd schools"
mircea_popescu: out of
these much
too disparate elements i scarcely see how one who no fue ya could construct something whole in his head.
trinque: I went
to a "magnet school" in
TX, was bored out of my mind except for various acts of resistance
through adolescence
mircea_popescu: academically, it would be ivy league college. sexually, it would be u of arizona during spring break. socially it would be prison, except with regards
to
the adults it would be
the 1960s paris uprising.
mircea_popescu: cazalla from what i gather he went
to russian public school in
the 80s, which im sure is very close
to romanian public school in
the 80s, which has absolutely zero
to do with anything you might call school in any perspective.
shinohai drinks a
toast
to pete_dushenski
cazalla: mircea_popescu, perhaps, mine was a shitty public school, missus was exclusive private and seems
to be
that is just another
type of bezzle (all students must go
to uni
to get loaded up on debt
type
thing)
mircea_popescu: cazalla note
tho,
that
the school he went
to, and
the school you went
to, were very different beasts. i suspect you'd have loved his.
mircea_popescu: well yeah. so
that fixed formal pillar is WHAT ALLOWED benefit in
the pursuit of "learning 3dmax"
cazalla: mircea_popescu, yeah pretty much, could've left in 1997 but
they managed
to stretch it out
to 1999
phf: i've cut classes plenty, but i don't
think i've ever even contemplated quitting school, what am i going
to do, sell lavash? it was kind of understood
that people who were pushed out (never nobody quit because
they wanted
to) were losers
pete_dushenski: this failing
to compute really is
through and
through with usians, right from basic algebra up
to software, hardware,
the whole gammut, etfc.
cazalla: gotta go
through bezzlar wringer of naughty boy schools, career counselling and other make work positions before principal gets
the parents in
the office mircea_popescu ,least
that was my experience
mircea_popescu: principal calls parents over, ifnorms
them
that you
told him you intend
to quit school and he agrees, and you're henceforth expelled from all schools forever.
pete_dushenski: right, finance your own future and
that of your children = progress
pete_dushenski: what happened
to old grandmas and grandpas who saved up and bought houses, cars, etc. ALL CASH
phf: quitting school?
that's a paddling
☟︎ mircea_popescu: had you just quit school
to focus on your learning 3dmax full
time like
the retarded us kids, your dad'd have had your hide.
pete_dushenski: "why own x when you can make payments for
the rest of your life!" (tm)
mircea_popescu: phf and
there's nothing wrong with
the process per se, as a distraction. but you have
to admit
the only way it was an acceptable behaviour when you were 16 was because YOU ALSO WENT OT SCHOOL.
pete_dushenski: fuck stupid americans and
their monthly everything payments
phf: i've realized
that a lot of my systems anxiety comes from
trying
to be "filthy casual" with a lot of
technology i have no business in. in my case comes from 90s
tradition of buying all manner of pirated software on
the way home from school. "today i'll learn 3ds max and
tomorrow autocad"
cazalla: gimp is pimp in otherwords and no fucking around with adobe activation and
t3h cloud ver of photoshop
mircea_popescu: yet somehow
the point
that
there is no possibility of value even outside of gimp stays elusive. yet it's
the same damned
thing.
mircea_popescu: people find it uncontroversial
that lamp amp is better
than cpu amp. i've seen people gush over 1990s state of
the art computerized algebraic systems.