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mircea_popescu: (note the .asp for a lol.)
mircea_popescu: seems there's ~7k colleges in the us. "hundreds" is meaningless in this context.
mircea_popescu: and "college graduates" earning 2k per month is bs, incidentally. that's what the living wage is.
mircea_popescu: are those "hundreds of colleges" pretty much community "colleges" etc ?
thestringpuller: Go to school work for school for cheap. Pay back loans for years to come.
thestringpuller: punkman: College loans maybe the greatest scam yet.
punkman: "The Department of Education calculated the percentage of students at each college who earned more than $25,000 per year, which is about what high school graduates earn. At hundreds of colleges, less than half of students met this threshold 10 years after enrolling"
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1O9YKF1 )
fluffypony: cazalla: he follows me on Twitter and we've pm'd a bit, don't know him outside of that
cazalla: and here i thought it was money, or lack of it
assbot: Education is the big hurdle blocking Bitcoin growth in Africa - Memeburn ... ( http://bit.ly/1O9Y2Yz )
cazalla: fluffypony, do you know "Francois Harris the founder of Bitcoinzar"
ben_vulpes: it's great - a whole new world of indignities and hilarities to enjoy the spectacle of
thestringpuller: i actually don't think all the xanex in the world would help
thestringpuller: i would need 9 months of xanex for that
thestringpuller: being on the male side of child bearing is the unappealing part i was referring to! lol
ben_vulpes: things women do that i don't!
thestringpuller: how are those two things related?!?
thestringpuller: like hitting dudes in the balls? that isn't very fun either.
ben_vulpes: the things women generally enthuse about doing to cocks doesn't appeal to me either.
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: childbearing seems unappealing to me
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: "the whole point of the last month of pregnancy is to make the idea of childbearing very appealing"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> there's gotta be a complete bitcoin distro. kernel and all. << What, rotor stopped making enough Linux?
assbot: Logged on 13-09-2015 22:51:17; mircea_popescu: thestringpuller ask her!
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski !לשׁנה טובה ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: << i have always wondered! why do mircea_popescu's contracts /always have names/ in addition to the fingerprints? << array of conveniences. your govt id includes your name aside from your number too.
assbot: Logged on 14-09-2015 02:41:49; *: gernika aims lower. would be satisfied to be able to reconstruct algebra on death bed.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2015#1273646 << algebra is easily the hardest part. not even just because the notion of number is easily the most complex abstraction we've invented to date. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the problem is that until and unless someone takes a serious byte out of making the damned thing, it's kind of hard to guess if and how the graph is actually summarizable, or w/e the term is.
mircea_popescu: maybe 1% or so is the best you can hope for, as a human.
mircea_popescu: wich strictly means that a) mathematics is not open to human beings and b) even ultraspecialised approaches are pushing the proposition.
assbot: Logged on 14-09-2015 02:34:49; asciilifeform: problem is, most folks asking for this kind of thing, have vastly overoptimistic idea of what can be expected from a single book and a reasonable amount of study.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2015#1273642 << this is true. i would estimate a ~passible~ clump of v-math to be in between 20 and 50mn nodes, each of which requiring the reasonable student an hour to an evenings' study. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: quite a ways to go to what we actually want to have.
mircea_popescu: <gernika> I feared as much. << the objection is valid, and in no way different from "you can have a working os, i sort-of have one here, it's made out of 400 pieces and i could maybe remake it if i had a week off."
mircea_popescu: there's going to have to be a bisection and it's hard work, of the "do not bother me for three days" sort. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: modern crypto useless for the reason stated
mircea_popescu: but for some reason either the histeresis is great or outright resistance to the notion is great.
mircea_popescu: and go to great lengths to manually bypass barriers << incidentally, this is why a b-a linux is such a low hanging fruit.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-09-2015#1272924 << i have always wondered! why do mircea_popescu's contracts /always have names/ in addition to the fingerprints? ☝︎
ben_vulpes is enjoying the anton_osika thread
gernika: khan academy's knowledge map approximates what I seek but is tragically composed of video nodes, rather than book titles and page numbers: http://www.semko.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/khan-map-half-complete.jpg
gernika aims lower. would be satisfied to be able to reconstruct algebra on death bed. ☟︎
asciilifeform: problem is, most folks asking for this kind of thing, have vastly overoptimistic idea of what can be expected from a single book and a reasonable amount of study. ☟︎
gernika: ok. thanks.
asciilifeform: if you want a pocket-sized 'tour guide', try 'Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning' (A. D. Aleksandrov, A. N. Kolmogorov, et al)
asciilifeform: but it wouldn't do you any good. there is not a standardized one that works on everybody.
asciilifeform: gernika: sure. this is a book, except that it is made of 1,001 others and they take up three bookcases.
gernika: asciilifeform a book that connects pythagoras to newton, with proofs for all the nodes in between?
nubbins` wanders off to think
nubbins`: but... the only way they can take it away from me is by rendering it useless throu... waitaminute
nubbins`: came across my uni transcripts recently: yipes.
asciilifeform: gernika: i cannot answer this because it is not clear to me what is being asked for.
trinque: exactly what I meant about the right man's library index
assbot: Logged on 12-09-2015 20:29:47; mircea_popescu: but V is the best simulation of how actual math learning happens (in those brains actually capable to learn math) that we ever had as a fucking species.
gernika: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-09-2015#1271600 asciilifeform is there a book you can recommend that approximates this, or at least traces a few important branches? ☝︎
trinque: asciilifeform: there we have no disagreement
trinque: as it stands I'd like to go back to an addressing system for flat text with the option of involving more code as I see fit
asciilifeform: trinque: it isn't really a computer until this is so.
trinque: asciilifeform: if there could be hard constraints on what someone else's code could do on my computer, I'd be far more willing
nubbins`: you think that's too real, don't ask me about cellular automata
nubbins`: s/mime types/everything
trinque: nubbins`: mime types are a shitty implementation of something that came before it
nubbins`: keep going and you'll reinvent MIME types
trinque: asciilifeform: we all use the web all day; I'd have to be persuaded that it's useless
trinque: and maybe the data source proposes to me that my system fetch some new presentations it needs, but that the act of browing around does not *at all* involve running someone else's code
asciilifeform: trinque: precisely how a better horse is this box with four legs, reins, motor, aha ?
asciilifeform: can take ~whatever~ on the machine and have it sanely typeset.
trinque: seems entirely clear to me that a better web would be nothing more than something like a CLIM listener here, and a network of data sources out there
asciilifeform: this is the difference between the typesetter component in 'concordia' and latex
asciilifeform: for all sorts of things.
nubbins`: i did some typesetting with LaTeX in uni, the math dept required it
asciilifeform: concordia even typeset books (including the manuals, which i have here on my shelf)
asciilifeform: ('examiner' was a viewer-only thing)
trinque: obviously I'm searching for the latter
asciilifeform: trinque: there is the symbolics one
trinque: node over there has data; I want to view it with presentations over here
trinque: had a thread with gabriel_laddel recently on whether hypertext was even valuable; I hold that it is
trinque: asciilifeform: better question might be whether there are existing hypertext system implementations from that era
asciilifeform: nubbins`: phun phakt: tungsten bars have 100% genuine assay marks.
nubbins`: "Assays of GD bars are determined by the refiner at the point of manufacture. An assay is likely only to be checked again when a bar is used as raw material in a refinery, for example, for the manufacture of small bars or in a plant manufacturing products like jewellery."
asciilifeform: where it takes actual fucking work to transform one to another
asciilifeform: this preoccupation with format is a disease of the non-cl world, aha
asciilifeform: trinque: you can make them look like whatever, and it'll still be one line.
trinque: asciilifeform: seems to me the right way is simply to barf sexps that look like function calls over the wire
asciilifeform: n encryption (to use stronger encryption in many areas, such as AES-loop, you needed to compile your own kernel and go to great lengths to manually bypass barriers they put in place to the use of genuinely strong encryption)....'
asciilifeform: 'From the start, my revelations on this blog about Red Hat’s deep control of Linux, along with their large corporate/government connections, hasn’t been just about spying, but about losing the distributed engineering quality of Linux, with Red Hat centralizing control. Yet as an ex-cypherpunk and crypto software developer, as soon as I started using Linux years ago, I noted that all the major distributions used watered-dow
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-09-2015#1273326 << a year ago, and 100% factual, but go and try speaking of this to non-#b-a folks, aha. ☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: the very fact of having asked the question is indicative of needing detox from years of using shitlangs
trinque: fine answer; I've developed the habit of at least trying to look for prior art before reinventing something
trinque: wondering if there was some elegant way of doing this in the civilized era
nubbins`: they're still forever tho, right?
asciilifeform: trinque: why the fuck do you need a library for this
trinque: asciilifeform: that guy has a function I wanna get the result of via a socket
nubbins`: what ever became of all that perfect synthetic diamond hype?
asciilifeform: commercially available, and, unlike the gold thing, costs pennies
danielpbarron: if you're reaaaly good, you plan your levels out so as to not get stuck in battles at all
trinque: asciilifeform: is there something respectable to look at in the CL world in regards to RPC?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha. this is btw the only reliable test for diamond.
nubbins`: you can play the whole 2p game yourself if you're good in battle mode