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asciilifeform: 'i-can't-believe-it's-not's.
phf: mircea_popescu: nah, worst case it doesn't return to a default (typically much more permissive) umask after handling the keys
mircea_popescu: moral being "don't use salt", nfi that anyone does/would.
mircea_popescu: "good this was changed, world wasn't doomed before". who the fuck is madduck
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm sorry, i can't go through the introduction
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing users can't just re-enter their orders or something ? anyways.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu explained this some time in 2013 but i haven't the link here.
asciilifeform: ty shinohai but it isn't 100% up yet, as you can see
mircea_popescu: they don't currently HAVE trillions, for any purpose, including feeding the apparatus.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, because happy people don't tend to make facebook pages
mircea_popescu: stuff like "oppressed" and "hateful" just disolves in its own juices, it NECESSARILY can't mean anything other than http://trilema.com/2013/racists-and-socialists/
mircea_popescu: just because one style of lying is replaced by another style of lying doesn't mean we've reached any closer to "factual".
mircea_popescu: people aren't machines!
mircea_popescu: copumpkin it doesn't run on a mac, so why would it.
mircea_popescu: they don't have any monetary value or anything.
mircea_popescu: oddly enough i don't even recognize my key in short form o.O
a111: Logged on 2016-04-20 23:17 mod6: this matcha tea isn't bad as long as its not clumpy
mod6: this matcha tea isn't bad as long as its not clumpy ☟︎
BingoBoingo: http://www.emergencymedicalparamedic.com/most-horrific-obesity-story/ << Don't blame the mice!
mircea_popescu: shinohai i don't get it, what the fuck difference does it make that guy's dad used to be a chiropractor ?!
wywialm: this doesn't refer to the CDS-insured variant, does it?
wywialm: i didn't certainly revolutionize the electronic derivatives trading industry (nor claimed to), just trying to make a robust bitcoin-based market
mircea_popescu: you can't say you designed something and then keep pulling items from your sleeve as discussion of your design progresses.
wywialm: large here means 'large relative to maintenance margin percents', so our size doesn't matter much in this case. if the maintenance margin is 10% then this means that a 10% price jump won't hurt us regardless of our reserves.
mircea_popescu: except you're small, so "large" doesn't mean much.
mircea_popescu: essentially, you see what the big boys are doing, and figure you'll just do it yourself. except - the big boys can do things BECAUSE they are the big boys, ie, there's bernanke there to "save the economy". you aren't, and i can lean on you. moreover, the big boys don't ever do this 2:1 thing. they do a little margin, and as private financing, which is exactly how you should be doing it also.
wywialm: well, liquidations don't happen when market is no good, but only when one participant is no good
mircea_popescu: and no, you can't fucking liquidate on the market, think about it for a moment. the very reason you are liquidating in the first place is that the market's no good.
mircea_popescu: This in the happy case where the exchange doesn't attempt to autoliquidate positions, creating all the noise surges you could wish for.
mircea_popescu: and don't tell me you're about to skip c ?!
mircea_popescu: they paid me. this doesn't make the model more workable.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> shinohai you ever had bimbo bread ? << first time I saw this in a supermarcado i was like "ha! they don't even know..."
mircea_popescu: wywialm nice, but this isn't what i have in mind when i hear "economic design".
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c hey, danielpbarron can't log into eulorum because something with cookies. anything change ?
mircea_popescu: so basically "i have this untested thing we baked together with some greenhorns that aren't in the wot but wouldn't mind using me - wouldn't you like to give us money ?"
PeterL: didn't f.mpif close?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-20 15:45 solrodar: yeah, so I'm not saying it was a ponzi, or any other kind of scam, just that he wasn't being entirely up-front about what was going on
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for this, it wouldn't even be a bad thing, everyone'd do it.
mircea_popescu: this isn't something to whine about. this is something to motherfucking fix. starting years ago, but 2nd best - today.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't attach to me, or to mpex. i'm doing things. it attaches to you, personally : you're not good enough. and you sure as hell fore that reason do not belong opining in here. go learn how to do things that mpex may consider listing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-20#1454008 << look, i understand this "teach plox throw the curve" talk has served you well through life. neveretheless, the fact that you don't see more things, and things made by orther people on mpex is that you personally suck. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-20 14:56 mats: solrodar: 'i don't understand this financial instrument so the operator must be laundering money'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-20#1453984 << new version of "i don't understand how money works so jews must have pact with devil". which is WHAT is the problem with the sort of lowest-possible-effort, deliberately ignorant effort, PeterL ☝︎
phf: from that perspective it's not strange at all that s.bbet was "zero assets", or s.nsa doesn't pay for ascii's maryland house
phf: nah, i wasn't considering in october, by october i've decided i'm not going to
solrodar: yeah, so I'm not saying it was a ponzi, or any other kind of scam, just that he wasn't being entirely up-front about what was going on ☟︎
solrodar: income from people "buying accounts" when they weren't really buying accounts
phf: solrodar: aren't you also implying mpex is a ponzi scheme?
mats: because you can't possibly conceive of a reason why ~you~ would do it, the activity must be fraudulent?
mats: you think folks wouldn't pay to trade in the stock of a single company?
mats: i also don't know what the fee has to do with anything
phf: i actually did some maths and was ready to drop 50btc on an mpex account, but held off for the main reason that i don't see a solution (and there wasn't one found) to minor collusion problem. that conversation happened ~last october~ (or whereabouts), it was framed as a hypothetical, but it was a long precursor to chinese miner conferences (that in turn was serious grounds to suspect potential cartel) and all that other stuff.
shinohai: Probably just "I didn't get named BitBet receiver" butthurt.
mats: and what are you even talking about, re: 'these alleged payments aren't on the blockchain' ?
mats: solrodar: 'i don't understand this financial instrument so the operator must be laundering money' ☟︎
solrodar: and then a few weeks after someone notices these alleged payments aren't on the blockchain
mircea_popescu: punkman isn't all that buffer-filling shenanigans going to give the show away anyway ?
BingoBoingo kind of wants, shame it isn't a creeping red fescue http://naturalsociety.com/new-gmo-approved-grass-may-infiltrate-lawn-near/
mircea_popescu: shouldn't be, no
mod6: mike_c: hey, got thos zocchi dice, and they look awesome. really great edges. i don't have a micromoter or whatever, so i can't really give a good break down at this point. but maybe in the future, will have a more comprehensive report.
BingoBoingo: How are you going to live boat when you haven't hardened yourself to the sight of a manatee gone belly up?
davout: can't unsee
mircea_popescu: aren't these exactly identical ?
asciilifeform: ''I don't see a reason to have a x of about the same size as the p. It should be sufficient to have one about the size of q or the later used k plus a large safety margin. Decryption will be much faster with such an x. Note that this is not optimal for signing keys becuase it makes an attack using accidential small K values even easier. Well, one should not use ElGamal signing anyway.'
mircea_popescu: that joke didn't work out!
asciilifeform: and i will point out that epochs as implemented in sane places don't partake of the 'time zone' crapolade.
mircea_popescu: that's his choice isn't it ?
mircea_popescu: you don';t get "same as before".
trinque: you don't want the numbers in order of magnitude?
mircea_popescu: i still can't fucking find it.
mircea_popescu: it really isn't fucking reversible already.
mircea_popescu: people don't kill for money.
asciilifeform: just means it won't happen ~for the stated historical reason~
asciilifeform: at any rate, 'no precedent' != 'can't happen'
trinque: just because he knew and dealt with the clintons doesn't mean he likes them
mircea_popescu: he has nfi because he doesn't live ion the country, he lives in the red square.
mircea_popescu: the great black swamp still fills womens' breats with milk. you don't need THAT MANY people to wipe a 12%ish pesky minority.
asciilifeform: i mean, folks don't stuff ~themselves~ into oven, no
mircea_popescu: the pencilnecks don't matter in any discussion.
mircea_popescu: i can't use grepping for this. if it did token join search i could search for blacks jews
asciilifeform: i won't even say, will leave it as a jawdropper to the alert reader.
shinohai: T_T
BingoBoingo: Can't really make much of the tweets, but that goes with the medium.
mod6: basically, you can't choose it, but they throw that in as in, "hey, look, we're such good guys we're gonna give you the day off even though you probably would have taken it off anyway; nevermind that the rest of the "free" world has this day off too."
mircea_popescu: "by which i don't mean anything other than that they themselves were unaware of what exactly arguing". it's not aboot you!
mircea_popescu: no it didn't!
asciilifeform: and i don't argue it as a universal good, but as something i specifically want out of life.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, it's just this lifestyle / mentality thing. not SO different from your very own gyro-boat thing, really. by which i don't mean anything other than that they themselves were unaware of what exactly arguing.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the noobs : mpex 1st conference was principally this thing where voorhees and casares tried to convince me usg is the only game in town, with me laughing, and me stating mtgox isn't going to be around for long, with them laughing.
asciilifeform: this goes right back to mircea_popescu's old observation re 'jobsworths', i.e. that you can't actually ~pay~ folks to give a fuck
mircea_popescu: don't mind the coincidences.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-18 16:36 mircea_popescu: why is it that you think yourself the crystal dragon jesus of wrighting boats when you can't as much as punch out another chimp ?
mircea_popescu: i know no such thing, and you're lucky you don't have tits, there'd be a whipping in it for you by now.
asciilifeform: phf: you don't
mircea_popescu: phf it doesn't count there, anymore.
mircea_popescu: why is it that you think yourself the crystal dragon jesus of wrighting boats when you can't as much as punch out another chimp ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nevertheless you do not consider the former a feasible approach to the problem of tax ; but you without as much as batting an eyelash pull the former out fo ass in response to a challenge you hadn't even considewred!
phf: asciilifeform: you really need to be a mythical la-fondian character from robert howard stories to pull it off as "escape from rent", but then you won't be escaping to begin with, since you were never it
asciilifeform: and yes, somehow life on ships is 'adolescentine male fantasy' to mircea_popescu but shooting tax collectors (who, where i live, come in tanks and with heavy machine guns, by the dozen) isn't...
mircea_popescu: this is all the better - they don't.