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TomServo: All this ETH talk, I felt I should mention the waterfall had run dry: http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it'll be something like the film 'memento'
mircea_popescu foresees great cinematic drama, "the brainwallet". where guy gets shot in head, has to recoup his brainwallet. ☟︎
asciilifeform: TomServo: bullet whistled by, took off your hat ?
TomServo: Good! Relieved to know I'm still a person after having to refer to a backup.
mircea_popescu: how goes TomServo
asciilifeform: (sorta like the old 'swag' for pascal !)
mircea_popescu: actually the topic of how to compare these two props is kinda interesting.
mircea_popescu: and wait - not even same timeframe o.O
mircea_popescu: "a total of ~200 bitcoins were locked up for ~3 months to provide this determination"
mircea_popescu: "according to bitbet, ethereum has two degrees of magnitude better odds at surviving 2015 than gavin's scamcoin."
mircea_popescu: same time frame, same substantial dispute (altcoin pretending importance). the gavin/hearn idiots have trouble going past 3:100 against them ; ethereum is so far 3:1 or some shit.
assbot: BitBet - The ETH scam won't see 2016 :: 22.83 B (29%) on Yes, 55.6 B (71%) on No | closing in 2 months 1 week| weight: 94`816 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1iDIjEg )
assbot: BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 101.11 B (97%) on Yes, 2.91 B (3%) on No | closing in 9 months 2 weeks | weight: 91`180 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JoYZVq )
mircea_popescu: curious if this means a further 60 btc on no, now.
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 12.31075552 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b17
asciilifeform: more of a tensor.
mircea_popescu: whenever "someone" aims to engineer faux sell pressure, "someone" gets raped.
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that treating price as a scalar is loony
asciilifeform: but whenever someone seems willing to mass-sell, it tanks ?
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is in that range because nobody wishes to sell.
mircea_popescu: stuff like ripple or ether is in the 0.05 range because NOBODY WISHES TO BUY.
asciilifeform: possibly this sounds batshit, but it could explain why the 'early adopt' folks were so eager to part with their coin in return for a song and a promise
asciilifeform given that we had the thread re: 'market depths' today, cannot help but wonder whether a fella with, e.g., 10,000 btc in those times did ~not~ actually see himself as in possession of 40,000 usd
mircea_popescu: whichy, as he said then and i believed then, set him back a few months of dayjob.
mircea_popescu: at the time bitcoin was ~4 usd.
asciilifeform: but isn't this because a sandwich cost 100,000 btc at the time?
mircea_popescu: top tier ~= enthusiasts with a spare basement.
mircea_popescu: eh, at the time we're discussing nobody in bitcoin had enough money for a spare sandwich.
asciilifeform: but do we know whether this was the lion's share of his pocket, or just pocket lint ?
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, being the reason why nobody uses linode to this day.
mircea_popescu: eh. tell you what, 4 years ago, when most of the current "experts" didn't know how to spell the name, the guy was hit by the first targetted attack, alongside some others.
asciilifeform: but is he cured in any sense, or just removed from the opportunity to commit atrocities at the given moment ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think the guy's toxic, just, acts the imbecile on occasion.
mircea_popescu: well, they stopped with the "bip 101" bullshit.
asciilifeform: as i understood, a negrate is a kind of radioactive tomb, a warning to others
asciilifeform: (when does it make sense to unrate a fuckwit, vs keep -10)
asciilifeform: as in, what is the logic above
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: comment on the relative merits of -10 vs 'unrate'
mircea_popescu: sad that in 2015 you still gotta teach old hands sense with the hot poker.
assbot: You rated user slush on 20-Aug-2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: fuckwit.
asciilifeform: 'I saw a huge steam roller, / It blotted out the sun. / The people all lay down, lay down; / They did not try to run. / ... ...' - k. vonnegut
mircea_popescu toasts for this.
asciilifeform: (inside the firebrick, with the gas on, where else)
asciilifeform: hey it sure beats seeing them from inside !
mircea_popescu: dude, this is so cool, getting to see the 50s first hand from atop a mountain of prime veal and home made black forest ...
assbot: Logged on 17-09-2015 18:45:27; ascii_field: the canonical 'two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner'
assbot: I used to work in the same research field as Xi. A very nice guy, did some very ... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHsNn4 )
mircea_popescu: "In fact it's embarrassing, because everyone who isn't relevant and knows it has an automatic grudge against you." <<< so ? the flailing is amusing.
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 23:47:31; assbot: The Truth Behind AbbyBitcoin - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1KtsgPp )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-09-2015#1279902 << da fuck is that stupid shit ☝︎
punkman: it looked more like a cunt from that other angle
mircea_popescu: i thought alf was the anal afficcionado
mircea_popescu: wait, old holland's banned in the us ?! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: that's the place for questions.
mircea_popescu: you like questions and shit, fix the fucking legal system.
mircea_popescu: no there isn't. that's the thing with suicide bombing : no more questions.
punkman: there is the question of who you suicidebomb though
mircea_popescu: a dysfunctional legal system makes suicide bombing a necessity. you don't like that, fix the fucking legal system.
mircea_popescu: i think suicide bombing not only can be but actually is perfectly justified. ☟︎
punkman: gotta wonder how "justified" translates to all those languages
punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPSzb53U8AEd4rD.png "I'm not "phobic" of all of Islam, just the several hundred million Muslims who think "suicide bombing is sometimes or often justified.""
assbot: Lost sheep with overgrown coat found and shaved, yields enough wool to make 30 sweaters - Australasia - World - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHoesJ )
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 58 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
pete_dushenski off to dinner. laters !
pete_dushenski: for a node network n00b, i found the aforejizzed quote quite interesting ☟︎
pete_dushenski: copypasta from that txt there
asciilifeform: didja key that in on a telegraph or what
pete_dushenski: new timestamp learned."
pete_dushenski: an address. The two-hour aging penalty is applied to the
pete_dushenski: receiving an ADDR message with a newer timestamp for
pete_dushenski: x makes a new connection, its address propagates in the
pete_dushenski: ally flood the entire network. Whenever an existing node
pete_dushenski: relay messages containing the node’s IP address eventu-
pete_dushenski: with a hitherto unknown address joins the network, the
pete_dushenski: bors know every twenty-four hours. Thus when a node
pete_dushenski: purge all information about what addresses their neigh-
pete_dushenski: the neighbors don’t already have this address. Nodes
pete_dushenski: updating any timestamps), as long as the node believes
pete_dushenski: random and relay the same ADDR information (without
pete_dushenski: response or a new connection, they choose two peers at
pete_dushenski: fewer than 10 entries, either as the result of a GETADDR
pete_dushenski: receivedl sent information about these nodes from/to their
pete_dushenski: which addresses their neighbors know of (because they
pete_dushenski: tamp set to the current local time. Nodes keep state about
pete_dushenski: randomly chosen peer, containing only x with the times-
pete_dushenski: connection from n, a node x sends an ADDR message, to a
pete_dushenski: messages in two cases: first, upon receiving an incoming
pete_dushenski: "Finally, we note that a node can send unsolicited ADDR
asciilifeform recommends whole thing
asciilifeform: ne who isn't relevant and knows it has an automatic grudge against you. Since CS research is quite competitive, evolution has its way, and relevance goes the way of the snake's legs.'
asciilifeform: '... Whatever their tactics, what CS bureaucrats always sacrifice is relevance. Of course everyone has a conscience, and everyone would like to be actually relevant. But, especially when the only people checking up are your own godfathers in the funding agencies, it's much easier to pretend to be relevant. Actual relevance is extremely difficult to achieve, and hardly rewarding at all. In fact it's embarrassing, because everyo
asciilifeform: (from the mega-classic http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/08/whats-wrong-with-cs-research.html ) ☟︎
pete_dushenski: "The Ring of Gyges: Using Smart Contracts for Crime." << should do the trick :)
asciilifeform: st, by turning it into a form of mathematics. Math outcompetes creative programming in the funding process, simply because it appears to be more rigorous. It is more rigorous, and it generates a longer, deeper river of more impressive publications. And, because its area is nominally applied, it doesn't have to compete with the real mathematicians over in "algorithms," who would clean the bureaucrats' clocks in five minutes.'
asciilifeform: as for why this general thing, see mr mold: 'The CS-research bureaucrat's main difficulty is that no one wants to fund bureaucrats. Therefore, he must pretend to be either a creative programmer or a mathematician, preferably both. Since this task is critical to his survival, he is extremely good at it. The bureaucrat has many strategies. But probably his best is to take an area of creative programming and devour it like a locu
pete_dushenski: but i still need something to mock !
asciilifeform: (not the specific paper, aha, but the concept)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this one's not entirely rotten. see logs.
pete_dushenski: with hot new titles such as "Nonoutsourceable Scratch-Off Puzzles to Discourage Bitcoin Mining Coalitions."