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BingoBoingo nominates pete_dushenski
asciilifeform: also i have nfi re mircea_popescu but my /etc/hosts is not anywhere near 300kB much less mB.
asciilifeform: inner transport layer can be same as what mircea_popescu described earlier, 'x y z'
asciilifeform: i do not necessarily go with 'EVERYTHING must be made of blockchaintronium!111' thing. (if you recall this was actually subj of 1st conversation between mircea_popescu & asciilifeform , on the former's www, back in the day...) but i also dun see why to create a 'throne' if there is a simple means of not creating a throne and solving the problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is genius salesman, does he know
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for asciilifeform's enlightenment, describe plox why coin should not be made of the same 'lead' (simple scheme -- there are N coins at 'sunrise', and, e.g., mircea_popescu can move coin no. 1,555 to ben_vulpes by signing 'coin 1,555 now belongs to [key of ben_vulpes] at time T' etc
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asciilifeform: system where i gotta ask mircea_popescu where lives trilema, but if looking for www of ben_vulpes, must ask ben_vulpes -- i have 0 quarrel with.
asciilifeform: but 'central servers' implies that i might also rely on mircea_popescu to say where, e.g., ben_vulpes's site, lives
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not any moar sadly.
asciilifeform: ... or even throw out bitcoin and replace with 'tmsr central bank', on server in mircea_popescu's martian dome.
asciilifeform: this is more or less an exact description of 'ask gossiptron to look up rating' except for the odd part where mircea_popescu wants it to be central or at least globally synchronized
BingoBoingo: http://thesouthern.com/elections/upset-trend-felt-down-ballot-in-franklin-county/article_91c4a7c0-843e-5225-b8b7-4700d5bc5ba0.html << More picturesque rural scenes
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 00:28 ben_vulpes: the infinite to bitcoin's finite, if you will.
trinque: ben_vulpes: there's one important distinction here. the gns has a WoT identity running it.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The one that didn't suck got the prize so no saxes.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 00:48 mircea_popescu: experience shows it's perfectly fine to have a philosopher king, however utterly suicidal to have a philosopher king's throne. bolt is fine, nut will kill you.
scriba: Logged on 2016-11-15: [19:26:43] <mircea_popescu> no dude, when apple.com was registgered it was registered to a key.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-13 17:38 mircea_popescu: Framedragger note that i don't particularly see the value in restrictioning anything. in principle anyone should be able to register a domain for his bitcent - even if he puts no gpg key in there. he just won't be able to admin it, big whoop./
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i (or someone more credible, or whoever) registers "trilema.com" under their own leigt key. what nao?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i guess in your view, perhaps no viable conflicts would arise in gns? say, two owners of two distinct pgp keys claiming ownership of "apple.com". some kind of due process is to take place, presumably
Framedragger: so the notion of a local symbol frame/context will be retained inevitably, is that what you're saying mircea_popescu? (in which case i'd add that gns-the-implementation could even probably be used - on each interested user's machine - as a local name system. etc.)
asciilifeform: so now you have 10,000,001 'roots', which inevitably will happen when bahama throne falls, why not arrive at that situation ~deliberately~, rather than like (to steal from old mircea_popescu piece!) 'like teenage cowsie falls pregnant, willy-nilly'
asciilifeform: trinque: there is 'nexus of hierarchy' where we, e.g., study writings of mircea_popescu because they make sense and worth respect. and there is the other kind of hierarchy, where prb makes dns query using usg.glibc and internic root server is hardbaked into the code.
trinque: mircea_popescu: aha I can see it.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-14 19:37 mircea_popescu: and, of course, 2000s vintage imperial lulz https://archive.is/g9O6H
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anything pushed outside of its working envelope - breaks.
trinque: mircea_popescu: no. once I know a key I can interact with deedbot if I can make it there over gossipd peerings
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i thought so too, but basically mircea_popescu's idea would dispatch of the whole 'dns zone' concept. there would be no 'domain' per se. dns clients could still query 'loper-os', but the server would be a simple table, with no understanding of zones or significance of "."
asciilifeform: unless i misunderstand, thread was about mircea_popescu's idea of recycling traditional dns, but using own root
Framedragger: i don't have a strong opinion, i wonder what mircea_popescu thinks. i guess the answer would also focus on the "while we still must use it" aspect
asciilifeform: earlier this year, i wanted to fit symmetric cipher into trb, and get rid of 'blackholing' etc. but mircea_popescu correctly pointed out that it is the Wrong Thing to cement a pseudoscientific abortion like AES (or ANY OTHER known symmetric cipher!) into place
Framedragger: asciilifeform: do note that mircea_popescu's idea of keeping dns is more akin to a general WoT-enforced hashtable, update-able via (in principle) gossipd-compatible pgprams, and (for the time being) transportable over dns/udp. the latter so that dns clients can make use of it.
scriba: Logged on 2016-11-15: [17:08:07] <mircea_popescu> not, on the other hand, to deny that there in fact exists this subculture dedicated to the screenshot as quotation mechanism, or that tech support teams regularly see terrabytes of crap each month, clogging the tubes for no conceivable reason. it has to do with a failure of literacy, a certain laziness of the mind that thinks in symbols (which is
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah, i guess can't be certain. doesn't really fit for sure..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as was said about hruschev, 'его ушли'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lemon market, there.
asciilifeform: and if we really get mircea_popescu's botnet system, perhaps phuctor can finally get off the elephant box and onto 1024 chickens..
Framedragger: could it be that half of them are bots, mircea_popescu? can't imagine them being able to use imagemagick for the life of me
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i have this idea of doing focused not-for-coal-mines work this summer (some time after May) lol. so maybe even 2017!!1
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they never, afaik, published one single factor.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the feeding is the sole bottleneck.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: approx.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at hooker motel, http://68.media.tumblr.com/ff0a272b2abcbdcf9d79b7323f40a47a/tumblr_mupvdzpGOt1sdw9gyo1_1280.jpg
jurov: mircea_popescu: to actually connect, client keys must be cracked. asciilifeform: when can i expect the hopper to free for these?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought we went over this
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i still have nfi why deedbot repeats'em, the rss page itself, notice, never repeats.
BingoBoingo: the_scourge: What did you get pinched for?
deedbot: the_scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: !!up the_scourge
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://agriculture.by/upload/News/144102_31-vino.jpg << they still exist in belorus. with marks like 'merry carousel'..
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what's murkka beer ?
mircea_popescu: oh and to round off the lulz, http://trilema.com/administrator/components/com_jnewsletter/includes/openflashchart/php-ofc-library/ofc_upload_image.php?name=magic.php and http://trilema.com/components/com_jnews/includes/openflashchart/php-ofc-library/ofc_upload_image.php?name=magic.php.pHp because ofcourse.
mod6: mircea_popescu: yah, that makes sense.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> (in ww2, the worst marksman always got the flamethrower. worst job, shit's heavy, you gotta get close etc) << oh no doubt. that's a rough job. like having a damn bomb on your back. next as bad is probably the radio guy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by all possible measures (save for cost, was cheapo) it sucked donkey balls, but on account of unusual shape became memorable in film etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: antique. ~none made since late '90s, and was made half of plastic to even begin with
mod6: pete_dushenski: hey, glad you got a prize, I did like the yugo joke.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-15 00:39 asciilifeform: from ben_vulpes's link: http://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=7711&ec=4&ch=twitter << very rare pistol, iirc the maker was sued out of business soon after it figured in evidence room re columbine postal
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see thread just now
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes holy shit what's that potluck disaster https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxP7SW-WEAAdvyX.jpg
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at srs bzns ranch, http://68.media.tumblr.com/52e237009cd5e14e9d230dbee0542ed9/tumblr_musutw9wLf1rw74nso1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: from ben_vulpes's link: http://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=7711&ec=4&ch=twitter << very rare pistol, iirc the maker was sued out of business soon after it figured in evidence room re columbine postal ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes actually denmark is where the hot german chicks come from.
vvande: mircea_popescu: I'll do that later, but need to get breakfast and stuff.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the better universities, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mahvs1avyk1qkbo3do1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you have any conception of the total man-hours soaked into slashdot ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, mircea_popescu : consider slipping in, below sigblock, a link to the key on phuctor
asciilifeform: (if ben_vulpes or other wwwtronicist is ever bored, he oughta consider writing an aggregator called 'wrecker nyooz'..)
asciilifeform: i signed mircea_popescu's article with victim's pgp privk
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wat
BingoBoingo: Twas not in mircea_popescu's submission
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> davout pretty sure he's doing "la pen" because woman see. << Aha. Also because what say do people in France have over everything turning their language over to a socialist "Academy" and shit.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes unsurprisingly. pretty much all of extant "foss" is cat-v.org redone.
Framedragger: thanks much ben_vulpes. guess i'm good for now
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol, did a double-take on the dood in the back
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the party ranch, http://68.media.tumblr.com/0ebcb8404af38c91e5101398749ceaf3/tumblr_msctyza3xF1r81lgko1_1280.jpg
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: point taken - this should ideally eventually change, etc...
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you said you generally like dns transport, but just fyi it afaik limits udp packets to 512 bytes (which iirc you hate). but i guess the term is something more like "tolerate", not "like"...
asciilifeform: http://www.proofs-workshop.org/2013/slides/proofs2013_seifert_slides.pdf << lel, 'trojan-resilient ICs'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. 8ball is a 'primorial', it's this process that's been going 2*3*5*7*........... for months
asciilifeform wrote to http://www.isti.tu-berlin.de/security_in_telecommunications/menue/people/head re yesterday's find
mircea_popescu: bathroom attendants workin' on tips & tips alone : http://68.media.tumblr.com/31210ede9466aaadcb6d4c2b7aa95877/tumblr_mvhx5my5Os1stjm8io1_1280.jpg
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm curious, do you currently manually add entries to your hosts file? wireshark shows so much gunk flying around. like, i've got ad blockers and everything, but still lotsa facebook dns requests all around, etc.
mircea_popescu: and in other red cup news, http://68.media.tumblr.com/5095bd456aec749aaffc506710e27e8b/tumblr_mvhxcaByeh1stjm8io1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: and in other pumpkin attacks, http://68.media.tumblr.com/8fe43e441d88ba6dd5667f1d2304721e/tumblr_mv2nmcRc1x1s0fmloo1_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2016-11-12 15:50 mircea_popescu: set up your client to pick two-of-three, give it 1 republic and 2 reich servers. it'll give you republic for all the things reich doesn't know and reich for stuff like apple.com
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: you'd still want r-dns to be able to serve existing dns clients though, right? i mean, things like `nslookup`, dns resolution libraries, etc - the current dns protocol? or no?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: thanks for bearing with me. yes, fixation.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-14 12:27 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-14#1566990 << there is no such thing as "tld". there's just strings. if you query r-dns for "fucksgoats" you get ip for "fucksgoats". if you query for "hurrdurr.fuckgoats" you get ip for "hurrdurr.fucksgoats". if you query for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6" you get ip for "Pwgaf,H6X/LJ8yt..OLjoNn+kyfFsOG5a?FpPbf!uxOS6".
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: my excuse is, i don't feel like i have enough original content to keep spamming your comments box. what can i say. such self esteem
Framedragger: to an extent, i would say, no? in gossipd, user would have their own "hosts" file, mapping mircea_popescu to $fingerprint or w/e
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: this implies that there's basically a single dns server, though. it does not delegate to other dns servers, like what we have now
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: do you have logs for #opennic somewhere handy by chance?
Framedragger: ben_vulpes battling it out in #opennic, i see!
a111: Logged on 2016-11-13 19:45 mircea_popescu: any string is any string.
asciilifeform: http://www.isti.tu-berlin.de/security_in_telecommunications/menue/overview << them, apparently.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-13 23:35 mircea_popescu: but yes, congratulations are definitely in order for alf's foresight in implementing phuctor as he did. w/o the 8ball that module'd have never fallen.
mod6: thx mircea_popescu & hanbot