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mircea_popescu: yeah, but
the cultural norms were for
the old dood's house
to not be ransacked for valuables (ie, cunt & gold).
BingoBoingo: Violent crime is what happens when
there's no cultural space left for necessary violence.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu:
That's not crime.
There's cultural norms and practices in Shakespeare's Venice.
mircea_popescu: chonkin, why is violent crime a big deal in
the first place ? shakespeare's venice is all about young doods stabbing each other, so what of it.
mircea_popescu: i don't
think
that failure is either contentious or needs much elaboration. it's obvious enough,
the socialist dreams have failed wholesale.
BingoBoingo: Mind
that Uruguay was almost completely innocent of violent crime until Mujica. And
this is in South America.
chonkin: BingoBoingo Violent crime is so low in Japan
that only
tiny island nations like Monaco are equal
to it -- ya know like places full of rich retired people.
BingoBoingo: chonkin: I suspect it isn't as strong of a regional
thing in
the US as
the media folks push with
the red/blue state stuff. Lots of bipeds in
the US are literate in exactly
the same way 98% of Uruguayos are literate.
chonkin: Angela Merkel stood at a podium, with
TV cameras pointed at her and said
that "Multi-culturalism has failed." And she was not happy about
this like a bigoted neo-nazi. She meant it as a portent. "We really wanted it
to succeed , but after 40 years it is failling"
chonkin: And since I'm not denying
things -- nor will I deny what
teh statistics plainly show
chonkin: Sure,
there are people in
the plain stats and
the midwest (ana appalachia) who are poor, white, and uneducated.
They "hate blacks" and
their racism is simply bigotry and hatred. Yes.
This exists.
chonkin: But if you look at what he says in context --
the entire statement --- he is neither senile nor racist
chonkin: mircea_popescu
The award winning molecular biologist
that discovered
the structure of DNA (Francis Crick?) made some statements in public about African populations
that got him called a "senile old racist coot"
mircea_popescu: which is kinda what race is, "behold, by
the magical powers of my caliper i can meaningfully distinguish haploid groups".
mircea_popescu: chonkin, i used "racist" above
to denote any
theory
that proposes
there can be a fenotype-based partition on human population.
chonkin: They just kind of flatly admitted
that
the stats showed
them
that
these groups were different, and in many cases said
that social policy should "reflect"
these differences rather
than work
to undermine and hide
them
mircea_popescu: that much is
true, eugenics was rather fashionable for most of
the pre-ww2 modern period.
chonkin: While
they would appear "racist" on modern Cable
television, not all of
their statements about minority groups were based on some kind of mystical white supremecy, white nationalism, or outright bigoted hatred.
mircea_popescu: what's "compleltely founded" ? a workable notion of number for eg, is early 1900s. most math could be said
to only have a fundamental existence in
the past century.
chonkin: 2.
The principle developers of statistics were often part of eugenics groups.
chonkin: 1.
the branch of math called Statistics was really completely founded in
the 20th century
chonkin: I did discover recently some interesting
tidbits
BingoBoingo: Well, here you can draw conclusions and present
them for some back and forth usually leaning
to refinement. Occasionally enlightenment.
chonkin: mircea_popescu Well -- I didn't even draw any conclusions. And because I did not virtue signal and chatter and state
the colonizing oppression
theory, I was called "shithead" and put on permanent ignore.
mircea_popescu: the usual
term for
the process of education is... education.
mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure "white colonizing oppression" is rank nonsense, on
the level of "buddha".
chonkin: If prison incarceration rates "scale" with levels of white colonizing oppression,
then Aboriginal incarceration rates should be low and African American I-r should be skyrocket high.
THe opposite is
true in relaity
mircea_popescu: chonkin, as a factual matter, it's unlikely any live human being had a majority of ancestors who were not slaves at some point in
their life. now, most of
this is undocumented, but slavery is about as fundamental as eating.
chonkin: Certain
theories make predictions and
this is a matter of whether
those predictions match what is measured or do not match
them.
mircea_popescu: you can see
this fundamental behaviour among children. nothing is easier
than for a group of pubescent boys/girls
to agree "girls/boys are retarded / not worth bothering with".
then one with nice
tits, or a fellatio inclination, or whatever, an impressive hairdo or a skateboard shows up, and suddenly
there's an exception. before you know it, within
the decade everyone's married and
their pubescent kids agree on
the agreeme
chonkin: mircea_popescu
The Maori and
the Aborigine were never part of any slave
trade economy
mircea_popescu: ie, racist arguments do not generally fail at
the core,
they generally fail at
the skirts. you can always get broad agreement on "oh, blacks are
tards".
that never was problematic, it's a fundamental portion of human behaviour.
the problems begin when you'\re asked
to establish
the limits / produce a "yes/no" answerer
to "is
this person black" format questions.
chonkin: mircea_popescu You can justifiably place such statistics alongside
the incarceration rates, crime rates, and prison conditions seen in nations
that are extraordinarily homogenous
mircea_popescu: (neither were considered european in europe during
the
timeframes in question)
mircea_popescu: but
the irish and
the italian historical migratory waves were of european descent. at least sorta
chonkin: The united states could be included here, while even
thouhg
the African American minority
there are recent immigrants,
the pattern is
that
they are of "non-europe descent"
mircea_popescu: chonkin, not
to mention historical waves of incarceration as seen in
the "melting pot" aka ny. first, jails fulla irishmen, locals saying irish is
the new black.
then
their sons moved on
to being
the cops, jails fulla ets.
then
their sons moved on
to being cops, and so on.
chonkin: With australia having
the greatest disparity. Indigenous aboriginals make up P = 7.9% with a staggering incareration rate Ir = 89%
chonkin: Indigenous populations make up a minority percent of
the popuulation P < 20% and
their incarceration rates fall somewhere between 80% < Ir < 90%
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I did not, now Imma have
to find dalnet and hope
that is where
the Gauchos are hiding
BingoBoingo: Welcome, feel free
to draw conclusions here.
mircea_popescu: since we're doing "what did
the girls find sifting" BingoBoingo, didja know
there's an #uruguay on dalnet ?
chonkin: This
took place on another network. I didn't draw conclusions, I was
told "Welcome
to permament ignore, shithead"
mircea_popescu: speaking of federation and stuff : hey spyked phf ben_vulpes : how much
trouble would it be
to log every channel in every network over 50 users ? item shouldn't be publicly exposed, but as a fullsearch query (say limited from l1). something like !Xircs "naked sluts" nin?s returning all
the lines matching, in a paste encrypted
to caller.
☟︎ billymg: might also be
the v you're using, as mircea_popescu suggests.
the old patches should press fine
too
billymg: the post has been updated
to be clearer for readers scanning quickly
to get
the files
they want
billymg: this was somewhat my fault as
the most recent post on my blog discusses
the updates
to
the
two patches but
then links
to
the old versions (yes,
they were labeled as old but were also
the most prominent links on
the page)
billymg: i just
took a closer look at
the files on btcbase.org
though and noticed
that phf grabbed
the old copies from my blog
billymg: hanbot: yes, i am able
to press from any of
the
three current patches
mircea_popescu: hanbot,
the file is correct.
the expected hash (3e43*) matches
the keccak hash of
that file ;
the actual hash (05f5*) matches
the sha hash of
that file. you are for some reason using a sha v for
this ?
mircea_popescu: sounds like some implicit lf/nl conversions,
the loveliest
thing in nature.
danielpbarron: i pressed
the genesis just
the other day, and it worked from what i can
tell
hanbot: this is pretty much what v exists
to prevent, but it seems wp managed
to stick one in! billymg did you manage
to actually press
the genesis? how did you do it? diana_coman, you said you pressed it
too? not ran into
the issue? anyone else?
hanbot: basically it looks like
the one file got mangled (possibly via bad upload/download). can anyone else confirm whether either a)
they can actually press
the god damned
thing or b)
they have/have not
the mangled file ?
hanbot: 6. what's incomparably worse : |
tr '\n' '\r' will
transform
the file as it correctly stands into a file
that matches
the "expected" hash.
hanbot: 5. i specifically checked, sieving
the file
through
tr -dc '\0-\177' produces
the exact same object unchanged, so i don't
think it's utf shenanigans.
hanbot: 4. all other files in
that bundle pass just fine.
hanbot: 3.
the actual hash of
the file, as computed now, matches
the actual reported.
the signed vpatch, as it exists, contains
the expected as listed.
hanbot: 2.
the file itself is found on my very hard drive, untouched since i made
this
thing last year. a ~new~ genesis, which i just made, on
the basis of
those exact original files, displays
the same exact problem.
hanbot: 1. if i
try
to press
the current head of mp-wp (ie, including
the patches, either as reconstructed from our blogs or as maintained on btcbase), it dies with a hash mismatch
hanbot: ok, so i'm encountering
the strangest problem with v. here it is:
a111: Logged on 2019-03-10 23:28
trinque: bvt: diana_coman: I wager
that if you change line 14 of scripts/make_portage_tree.sh
to
the following, my sig will verify on
the resulting genesis.vpatch : dest=$pdir/profiles/${src#$bdir/usr/portage/profiles/}
a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:20 mircea_popescu: hanbot pick a laptop, bake
the man's cuntoo. (principal issue,
that gentoo->cuntoo "bridge", see if his sig matches).
BingoBoingo: Nah,
the gave away
the dressmaking
tradition
to Asia. All
they got is
the decorations for
their boxmixed cakes
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in
top keks from
the mid 1800s, "Mr. Seward is exerting himself
to provoke a quarrel with all Europe, in
that spirit of senseless egotism which induces
the Americans, with
their dwarf fleet and shapeless mass of incoherent squads which
they call an army,
to fancy
themselves
the equal of France by land and Great Britain by sea."
mircea_popescu notices he didn't write up
the ballad of buster scriggs, proceeds
to fix
mircea_popescu: (kinda why
the "this is everything" pretense is even
there ; otherwise if Mrs. Betjeman gets
to
thinking of what
them girls do in paris.... "all is lost!!!"
mircea_popescu: this is always
the punishment, for failure
to fem properly,
too. and it's so fucking amusing
to expose "womens lib"
tard
to
this sort of "oh but look,
the women in
THAT group do so much better at all
the
tings [you falsely claim not
to be important
though its all
that really interests you]".
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu>
the ppls don't see how electronics relates
to
them! <<
The rule
the Peruana has
to follow is
the less important something seems,
the more important it actually is.
mircea_popescu: nowadays... azn chicks more last cry
than knows what
to do with, white chicks suckling
the cock for free.
mircea_popescu: literallty can not afford. in
the early 2000s, it was azn chicks commuting
to "pink" in shanghai
treasuring an antique, smashed iphone, white chicks commuting
to "professional" in washington pristine last generation
TWO (cuz gifts from each boyfriend, had spare)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Displayed
those yes, but
the
town has a Walmart. Survived on being
the shop with
the
things it had in
the place it was. Death of
the parent killed it.
BingoBoingo: Still,
the place survived
through 2005 or so in
town of white folks under 10k heads
BingoBoingo: Well,
the other sort of crafts. Model rockets, and model
trains.
mircea_popescu: except some dood selling bracelet stamped parts from china, "crafts" for
the esty moron femcrowd ain't
the same as
the hamradio4lyf dood.