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ben_vulpes: no, they won't do anything to anyone cheating emissions tests. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: yes they'll continue stomping on the poor and disenfranchised.
ben_vulpes: anyways, the notion that the us courts have the mandate to execute people or have any other stort of effect on the world is long past its sell by date
ben_vulpes: whoever ran those "courts"
ben_vulpes: i'm sure goebbels etc had some variant too
asciilifeform: it was, iirc, 'innocence is not a constitutional bar to punishment' ☟︎
assbot: Antonin Scalia Says Executing The Innocent Is Constitutional - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1R61Gke )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this is where scalia's magical formula comes into play ☟︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: see famous case with portland lawyer that the incompetents in the usg wanted to frame for the madrid bombings.
ben_vulpes: just because some derpy whites succumb to intimidation does not mean dna framing still works. it works on derpy blacks too, what of it?
ben_vulpes: i'd love to see "1/30 odds convicts whitey but not his darker friends"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: last i saw, the u.s. left loves dna test. so long as it is mainly used to exonerate blacks
ben_vulpes: "i'm going to poke this doll image of you!"
ben_vulpes: the threat of voodoo won't work anymore.
ben_vulpes: (see "institutional racism" thread)
ben_vulpes: but when the voodoo is known to everyone as voodoo, which the left will *ensure* happens with the DNA saga
ben_vulpes: and generally the big stick works.
ben_vulpes: sure, people threaten each other with random shit all the time.
asciilifeform: because - for the actual, rather than stated purpose - they work great.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: fingerprints were 'debunked' in the 1900s ☟︎
punkman: but I think new version will need to include "quantum" and stuff
ben_vulpes: the whole legal/scientocratic edifice is shaking apart as the science part more trivially debunkable.
punkman: people still believe in the old model
asciilifeform: the 'voodoo intimidation value' of the old-fashioned kind is, afaik, thought to suffice
asciilifeform: not actually being pursued for this
ben_vulpes: and will likely suffer the same public humiliations
ben_vulpes: it is the only hope for the lie detector replacement
asciilifeform: while the remainder can be parallel-constructed, accidented, etc. into their place.
asciilifeform: intimidation of chumps, as in 'lie detector', will take care of two thirds of the 'patients' ☟︎
asciilifeform: folks familiar with usg 'scientocracy' will laugh, but the fact is, the mind-reading box does not necessarily have to... work. to be put in use. ☟︎
asciilifeform: afaik, the most audacious claim to date is that the machine can tell if the victim has seen a particular object previously.
assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 18:12:24; phf: "sir, we have here a warrant to search your memory palace"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-10-2015#1296361 << laugh, but this is being actively pursued with 'fmri' and related apparatus. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 18:04:22; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno that nonsense is of any interest rly. ever since ashcroft usg has been putting forth all sorts of spurious claims.
asciilifeform: as it is, western/non-orc bureaucrats use ceremonial language dating to a time when cooperation was a (comparatively) voluntary thing
asciilifeform: (normally when one properly lies, it is with some effort to be believed)
assbot: Logged on 11-10-2015 18:21:32; mircea_popescu: it's so badly contorted, for one thing it's anything but a need, for the other why the fuck are you so affraid of me you need to start by lying.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-10-2015#1296367 << the part that looks like 'lying' is actually a cargo cult thereof. ☝︎
mod6: neat, just did an autobuild of rotor + TEST2 via V. build was successful, running and pulling blocks. :]
assbot: Item13812: Foswiki 2.0 useless without javascript < Tasks < Foswiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1PooBsB )
jurov: http://foswiki.org/Tasks/Item13812 today another chapter of "world goes to shit" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nothing's been announced to date.\
hdbuck: mircea_popescu when is the next b-a gathering?
hdbuck: ah and i thought 90 results was quite much already.
phf: although often mocked "you don't understand, i needed to do this". oh you needed, that changes everything
phf: it's also removal of agency, need is something that happens to you, like "i need you to fill this out for me" has the "just doing my job, sir". as opposed to russian "you must fill this out" where the power dynamic is explicit
mircea_popescu: it's so badly contorted, for one thing it's anything but a need, for the other why the fuck are you so affraid of me you need to start by lying. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "sir, i'll need you to..."
phf: heh, i didn't even notice, the entire form was making me uneasy, but it's that casual "need" that's probably the worst part
mircea_popescu: poor "need". that word's so beaten up these days.
phf: "are the are any seditious thoughts on the premisses, that we need to know about"
mircea_popescu: this is the sunday psa that eulora needs more noobs. ☟︎
phf: "sir, we have here a warrant to search your memory palace" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno that nonsense is of any interest rly. ever since ashcroft usg has been putting forth all sorts of spurious claims. ☟︎
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assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 20:08:43; trinque: http://volokh.com/2012/01/24/encrytion-and-the-fifth-amendment-right-against-self-incrimination/ << wherein he agrees that the govt "knowing that you know" the password is sufficient to obviate pleading the 5th
punkman: how's that related to cokemachine?
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assbot: An Illustrated Account of the Great Maple Syrup Heist - Modern Farmer ... ( http://bit.ly/1RAVkdy )
asciilifeform: this was, i was told a multi-kg stash of synthesis-grade reagent.
asciilifeform: which happily accepted it and, iirc, filmed the proceedings.
asciilifeform: liability far too great
asciilifeform: and the fella wanted to be rid of the stash
asciilifeform: reminds me of a tale from the lab chief at my first job, at u.s. nih. when he inherited the grounds, there was cocaine left over from the last fella. who was busted because not all of it could be accounted for. the new lab had nothing to do with cocaine, and
assbot: Police destroys 3,7 tons of seized drugs at Chacarita Cemetery | Demotix.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1VLyLmP )
asciilifeform: http://www.demotix.com/news/5506846/police-destroys-37-tons-seized-drugs-chacarita-cemetery << oldie, re: the mega-graveyard ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Building a secure multisignature escrow service' << will this crud never die
mircea_popescu: "how about you do some work to justify this dough we're burning through"
mircea_popescu: all this minimum effort vc bullshit...
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mircea_popescu: https://newmatilda.com/2015/08/29/best-thing-about-feminists-they-dont-get-action-so-when-you-rape-them-its-100-times << in the lulz of all time, random nobodies on social media keep trying to piggyback on random events because hey. votes!
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mircea_popescu: "humanism" or whatever they call the superset of puritanic socialism.
mircea_popescu: writing is supposed to be fucking exclusionary. this is why it exist : to exclude some people ; and to advantage some of the others at the expense of the remainder.
mircea_popescu: i fucking hate them and i glad they died in a fire, there's nothing either wise or good about this junk.
mircea_popescu: this fucking offensive FOSS/original_wiki brand of "simple clear concise" idiocy is driving me up the wall, today, as the movement's dead just like it was back when the movement was nascent.
mircea_popescu couldn't get through that zimmermann "why i" blabla a decade ago, still can't today.
asciilifeform: 'First, I thank Mr. Keane for his professionalism in notifying us of the government's decision. It has become common practice for federal prosecutors to refuse to tell targets of investigations that the government has decided not to prosecute. I appreciate Mr. Keane's courtesy.' << l0lwut
asciilifeform cannot be arsed to try building the thing, much less read any of the 80MB (zipped!) crud
mircea_popescu: old age is its own form of blackmail and torture.
asciilifeform: i can easily picture the first being somehow done under torture or blackmail, but the second ?
asciilifeform: zimmerman, if you recall, sold pgp to hitler, allowing it to become a laughing stock of mystery meat faux crypto, but, as if this were not enough, went on to participate in the multi-coloured phones idiocy
asciilifeform: everybody worth remotely thinking about 'has crazy written down'
mircea_popescu: gauss too ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno about that.
asciilifeform: and his later life is so ignominious a thing that it almost retro-taints him into pederasty, in my mind
asciilifeform: zimmerman's was turdalicious, though
asciilifeform: from the rfc.
assbot: Logged on 10-10-2015 12:56:49; mircea_popescu: punkman afaik gnupg actually started with the zimmerman code at some point
asciilifeform: but yes, the one of 'omon ra' is nearly readable
assbot: Andrew Bromfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmFyDE )
phf: so might be not too bad
phf: same guy who did the rest of p's translations
asciilifeform chronic collector of bad translations, could not resist, bought.
phf: there's even an english translation, http://www.amazon.com/S-N-U-F-F-Victor-Pelevin/dp/1473213037
asciilifeform: recommended to all
phf: asciilifeform: the fat folks aren't ever expected to fight << "Когда я говорю «боевой летчик», это не значит, что я летаю в небе сам, всем своим толстым брюхом, как наши волосатые предки в своих керосиновых гондолах. Как и все продвинутые