asciilifeform: lol Mocky about to become familiar with the art of the hacksaw

asciilifeform: especially then.

asciilifeform: there's always plenty to do , even when the 'doers' are in drunken haze instead

asciilifeform: non-'ironically'

asciilifeform: dunno, the antics of marie antoinette did not cancel actual milkmaids existing

asciilifeform: afaik typical orc puts on a suit solely when being buried

asciilifeform: or whatever fell of the truck most recently

asciilifeform: i'd picture that genuine not-giving-shit will be in plain white rag

asciilifeform pictures herd of orcs in 1990s 'adidas' cloth

asciilifeform: chinese plasticloth

asciilifeform: dunno if meant to 'show' anyffing, it's what folx go around in when entirely not giving shit, costs $5

asciilifeform: 'company dress code' must be a west-usa thing, asciilifeform went through several slaveries where he was only one not dressed in hobo garb

asciilifeform: entirely possible

asciilifeform: i recall slaving in a galley where the brass handed out 'company shirts', then later saw'em in the kitchen as dishrags

asciilifeform: ( or do they )

asciilifeform: well they dun make the programmers wear 'crapple uniform' yet

asciilifeform: ( i'm almost surprised livery-proper hasn't made comeback yet )

asciilifeform: lol livery

asciilifeform: 'welcome to butugychag, here's yer wheelbarrow, it has only left handle'

asciilifeform: tru!!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 1 hole, is that 'generation-fara' dun buy $4k lappy. they buy ipnoje.

asciilifeform: trinque: difficult to picture the logic, unless it was deliberate 'coca cola classic' gambit, where it's to be put back later

asciilifeform: trinque: i can only assume that 'make emacs unrunnable on this' was specific objective

asciilifeform: lol ideas

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure it's ~all~ he got time for. well, possibly aside from buggery, and from deciding which connectors and keyboard keys to remove from crapple product next

asciilifeform: will show sumthing like max sectors = 78125000/78165360, HPA is enabled if it's there.

asciilifeform: hdparm -N /dev/sdx

asciilifeform: ( typically needs magic code sent via the sata )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dun fughet to nuke the 'ata hidden partitions' nonsense

asciilifeform: ( ftr, in addition to the many other 'wonders', uefi-infected bios will search erry disk for ms-signed turds and execute'em on boot, erry single time )

asciilifeform: afaik x60 was the ~last lappy without uefiism

asciilifeform: i like to put'em on public toilets

asciilifeform: the little sticker ?

asciilifeform: ( iirc that one was also a fiorina creation )

asciilifeform: this isn't same box as had the sad backlight is it

asciilifeform: i guess i have simple tastes , dun particularly need to hear the cuntlips schlick

asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-03#1421281 << x60 thread ftr ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: but intel's soundcard is unremarkable iirc and worx even in 2.4 kernel

asciilifeform: why even sound on a lappy, lol

asciilifeform: they tend to include intel's , for which to this day no driver

asciilifeform: ( mine eneded up with an atheros card iirc )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at this point this is a decade-long pestilence, even asciilifeform's x60 (circa 2009, iirc) terraforming recipe includes patching bios to permit hand-installed nic to work , followed by installation of same

asciilifeform: ( e.g. in the sad saga of http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2433 )

asciilifeform: re screwdriver, typically with newer shitboxen there is nothing even to do inside, only win from taking it apart is to help fit into rubbish bin

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the new biosen are lulzy also, often they have tcp stack nao, and read file system , and even show spam in the setup

asciilifeform: increasingly they dun have one at all

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at least you found box where it ~has~ the off switch

asciilifeform: oh hah the 'secure boot' lulz

asciilifeform: this is sorta why e.g. FUCKGOATS runs on 40 milliwatt ( of which 95% are lost as heat in the 10x-margined analogue pwr filtration in the daughterboards) whereas pc burns 100watt if were doing same work, etc

asciilifeform: yer comp consists ~99++% by weight of this bureaucracy.

asciilifeform: 'these here 15,000 transistors are because we gotta talk to pci bus' etc

asciilifeform: iron, too.

asciilifeform: trinque: that's more or less ~all~ software complexities.

asciilifeform: my understanding was that mircea_popescu refrained from giving signal 'build us a fleanode' in the past on acct of (but not limited to) the reason where heathens (e.g. fetgurlz) would have difficulty visiting . but we already have the +r hoop for them to jump, i dun see how much worse would be own fleanode. ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: approx similar to the sweat reqd to build own fleanode, aha

asciilifeform: ( my fiber here bumps 1ce or 2ce / yr, so in practice there's very little rotation on my end )

asciilifeform: but yes

asciilifeform: iirc mine is still set to rotate through a couple

asciilifeform: ok i get.

asciilifeform: aaa

asciilifeform: i'm quite convinced that this happened, and that it explains various cases of 'we DID this but wtf it aint in the logs'

asciilifeform: would prolly also need logic to force the 2 to connect via different fleanode boxen etc

asciilifeform: i do not recall what ben_vulpes does re netsplits

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: theoretically errybody oughta have seen the same lines tho (even if not always in exact order)

asciilifeform: right

asciilifeform: unless i'm thick, after subtracting those 2 fields, can diff.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: right, would have to subtract those prior to diff.

asciilifeform: i expect there'll be spots where a thing is 1 or 2 places out of order ( fleanode does not reliably preserve same-millisecond ordering iirc ) but aside from that oughta be diffable afaik

asciilifeform: nao lessee if ben_vulpes has one. then can diff.

asciilifeform: oh neato

asciilifeform: i suspect it was deedbot hiccup, rather than phf's logtron, in this case

asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fave1.org%2F2018%2Fgnat-zero-foot-print-take-3-regrind%2F&c=trilema << missing from ben_vulpes's log also

asciilifeform: !#s http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-zero-foot-print-take-3-regrind/

asciilifeform: phf: http://ave1.org/2018/gnat-zero-foot-print-take-3-regrind/ is the one i missed, ty

asciilifeform: how's that

asciilifeform: a url that one can GET and puts out e.g. last 500kB of raw log, isn't so much moar abusable than the ordinary formatted feed imho

asciilifeform: then could answer this q mechanically, in about 20 sec

asciilifeform: ( not even speaking of writable sync )

asciilifeform: would be handy if the 2 logtrons could at least output raw data that one could diff in cmdline

asciilifeform: phf: i mean, this is a 'hole in the boat bottom'-level item, so imho oughta show if you find.

asciilifeform: ( i.e. can point to material in e.g. ben_vulpes's logtron, that is currently missing from phf 's ?? )

asciilifeform: plox to note where, ftr ?

asciilifeform: phf: have you found that actual gap already happened somewhere ? ( if it did -- i missed )

asciilifeform: how does it make no diff ? if the logtrons were synced, then if even 1 is alive, the continuity is maintained

asciilifeform: i suspect that fleanode will only get moar broken as time marches on, never less.

asciilifeform: prolly the Right Thing would be to have the actual logtrons ( phf's, ben_vulpes's , Framedragger's if he were still alive , etc ) sync to one another as fallback ☟︎

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: phf: i dun get it, my bouncer worx ( i.e. the user fleanode sees, is registered )

asciilifeform: phf: what were the inputs for the regrind ? seems like i missed something on ave1's www

asciilifeform: interestingly, #asciilifeform still spam-free despite no +r , evidently the spam folx are using a hardcoded list of chans that dun include it yet

asciilifeform: ( so far -- worked )

asciilifeform: phf: mircea_popescu specificially switched on +r to cut down on spamola, see http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-04#1839441 thrd ☝︎

asciilifeform: my best guess is that somebody was testing a (buggy) submitter.

asciilifeform: g to accomplish. )

asciilifeform: in other recent lulz, somebody submitted a http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/2FF2BB54467E196A58785C82FC6B74E789ACA48679FF310D31DDFDCD0C934C7C . the item in the username corresponds to http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/03C39D10AC31A5845BE14895E18743165B7BA74E71D3D4A0D62710232203DAC3 . but the N of the former does not divide the M of the latter ( dunno whether the submitter thought that it does ? or what specifically he was tryin

asciilifeform: 'Hours after Apple announced its move, Mark Zuckerberg and his team at Facebook made the decision to pull four of Jones' pages' etc.

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathendom lulz, https://archive.is/43EIJ >> 'Amid mounting public pressure to address Jones' hate speech, Apple's Tim Cook and Eddy Cue met over the weekend and decided to pull five of Jones' podcasts from their platform'... << 'по просьбе трудящихся'(tm)(r) ! ☟︎

asciilifeform: ahlol