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a111: Logged on 2018-03-13 12:59 trinque: I believe it's more or less established by this point that the solution is to have a history file that's edited by patchers if they care that their patch isn't abandoned.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-13#1787748 << just about, yes. i wanted a model file so we have something to play with and the original concept was to have phf include it in his v tree of his v rewrite because it seemed the first item that's coming out at the time from l1 hands ; but if it's holding you back re tmsr-portage, go ahead and make the sample yourself and we'll see how it works. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: spyked "the original script doesn't always pass childNodes[0] as a parameter" << whoa, where is this ?
trinque: I believe it's more or less established by this point that the solution is to have a history file that's edited by patchers if they care that their patch isn't abandoned. ☟︎
trinque: I did not yet V genesis a portage overlay (which would eventually become the *only* portage tree, after republican ebuilds are made to replace items needed from the gentoo official portage) pending a resolution to the thread on how to handle v tree fragmentation.
trinque: diana_coman tried to build a cuntoo per my recipe and was bitten by the upstream musl-overlay gentoo repository having shifted enough to break the build.
asciilifeform saw an earthquake back in orcistan as a boy; unremarkable by world standards, but it dropped a chandelier, and impressed
hanbot grew up along the san andreas fault, has seen a few windows blow out but not much more.
mircea_popescu: yeah, can be a bit of a ride huh.
BingoBoingo: Back in the spring of 2008 my part of Illinois had a couple 5.x rumblers, and that is the limit of my experience with the things. For one however I was on the cantilevered balcony of a US standard apartment. Quite the ride.
BingoBoingo: 5 is about the line for ones I have noticed in my life. Maybe there was a 4.X somewhere down the line.
mircea_popescu: just a light shake.
mircea_popescu: in other news, i've been working since last night at a rewrite of double indemnity ; which is coming along splendidly. kinda why i've been quiet.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that was veryfast, a++, ty
mod6: I tried to go easy on him. It was the info people dug up on the site that threw me for a scammer.
mircea_popescu: anyway, you're too hard, too strong and too fast. bear in mind that the best steel cracks under shock and that you yourseld didn't have a pgp key before you made it.
mircea_popescu: he continued your ennumeration a second late.
asciilifeform: if a fella who balks at mention of pgp and wot reg , is hosting a trilema mirror, than who knows, anything possible, cats lie with dogs, lions with lambs..
a111: Logged on 2018-03-12 17:19 trinque: did no one ever buy/sell drugs as a troubled youth, or what
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-12#1787606 <-- I got it to work for thetarpit, I had to solve one or two specific problems to make it work. one was to get the correct ID of the DOM subtree where the highlighting occurs (lines 43, 91 and 225 of http://deedbot.org/deed-506234-1.txt ) and another was to ensure that the recur function gets called on the correct subtree -- the original script doesn't always pass childNodes[0] as a parameter, ☝︎
douchebag: writing a report right now
douchebag: Alright awesome, I just wanted a bit of an idea of where I should be looking at to start getting a scope set up
ben_vulpes: douchebag: you should be able to make a list of republic ips and start scanning boxen
douchebag: If you guys need someone to pentest Pizzaro, let me know. I'd be glad to take a look at anything that needs a security audit
asciilifeform: gone are the 'luxurious' days when we would get a fulltime ninjashogun every quarter!11
asciilifeform: trinque: i betcha we share a single preet with a buncha '13337' scum bois, and his desk is a bit overfilled, behind schedule, lol
ben_vulpes: "oh shit, someone slap together a responsive order page, make sure that it says russia in big letters"
mod6: Alright, well, consider getting a PGP key and registering it with deedbot
BlueAngelHost: i am a hosting provider company name (BlueAngelHost)
mod6: I'll give you a second chance here.
trinque: did no one ever buy/sell drugs as a troubled youth, or what ☟︎
mod6: Who might you be? You'll want to register a PGP key when you can.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, that was the point of the comment -- don't just go in, make arrangements. while syphilitic uncle sam is paying for the rent, you can have all the fun a dying empire could possibly offer
mircea_popescu: i expect a good portion is paid in stampbooks yeah
mircea_popescu: in other news, holy shit tuna is great here. $25 will buy you a kg of such fine fresh stuff as i've ever seen.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/03/11/caught-on-camera-a-very-rare-pepe/ << Bingo Blog - Caught On Camera: A Very Rare Pepe
mircea_popescu: i guess they were looking for a good excuse to go out.
BingoBoingo: Nah, that was a 2013 thing, the payment protocol turd Buttpay suddenly decided to try forcing
mircea_popescu: speaking of which : stash some bitcoin with a credible agent and go straight to club fed. as long as your "commissionary" account gets a few thou dripped every month/week, you can impregnate the entire population of "social workers"
shinohai: Is anyone else that has used Bitpay gotten the message where you have to have a compatible btc client open to make payment? Last I tried it wouldn't let you copy the actual btc addy, you had to either scan a qr or let system open your client.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i wonder what happened" "let's have a brainstorming about it" "oh, good idea. but can we say what actually happened ?" "no wai!"
mircea_popescu: but hey, being able to inflict major business loss upon an idiot like that in a situation like that is the whole reason why one wants to be rich in the first place.
shinohai: The Bitpay thing is lulzy, they are charging a fee for BTC tx;'s and calling it a "network fee" instead of "this is some arbitrary fee we made up"
mircea_popescu: specifically, THOUSANDS of pubescent girls being gangraped, sold for sex and forced to lure their sisters/cousins/etc in a community that counts 170k...
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/03/10/receiving-a-guest-in-montevideo/ << Bingo Blog - Receiving A Guest In Montevideo
BingoBoingo: Pls don't tell me a roof broke your leg trying to gabriel_laddel yourself about the rooftops
shinohai: I dunno, just read that article earlier and remembered I have a pokarbot already, just needs tweaks.
lobbes: in other new, I was able to erect mp-wp on my local test machine using hanbot's excellent guide for n00bs like me (I had never used ANY wp previously) >> http://thewhet.net/2017/10/a-compendium-of-possibly-helpful-stuffs-for-erecting-mircea-popescus-wordpress-with-nearly-free-speech-hosting/
BingoBoingo: That's just the nature of having a view from a tower
BingoBoingo: Well, Trilema is a sort of observatory for these things
mircea_popescu: heh. trilema was a "victim" btw, in the sense of seeing 10x as much "traffic" as usual.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other "it's not just the talent that's bovine ; the promoters are EXACTLY as fucking idiotic" news, check out https://gfy.com/webmaster-q-and-fuckin-a/994333-payment-methods.html
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-17#1435256 << wager it's in a suitcase, aha ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo very marginally maybe worth a lulz : github took down however many forks of project aiming at taking ads out of "spotify" which is some scamvalley "service" doing ~nothing in particular. << I will look into it, maybe try to find something to twofer it with
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo very marginally maybe worth a lulz : github took down however many forks of project aiming at taking ads out of "spotify" which is some scamvalley "service" doing ~nothing in particular.
mod6: Should have it posted in a week or less.
mod6: In UTF-8 news, I've been working on a re-grind. There's a number of things I want to talk about, so I'm in the process of writing up a "blog" post on mod6.net about it.
mircea_popescu: in these terms the infantile "i only want to solve problem Y defined as 80% of the actual problem" readily shows its infantilism. good and well that you want to build an os without a socio-political model ; but what you want dun enter into this.
mircea_popescu: the architectural model is particularly useful : building 80% of an arch, or in general whatever sub-unitary percent of the arch will not result in something that stays up. the span must be exactly covered, because a sub-span arch, no matter how well done in the parts that are in fact done, will nevertheless collapse under the weight of the absent portion.
mircea_popescu: meditation upon http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787343 yields the interesting result that problem spaces are not continuous. problem spaces are discrete, and there exists such a thing as problem spans. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: honestly i'd re-read it, showed the signs of a great novelist in the rough. rather clemens-like.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-30 04:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform who had that great story about the three dorks in a garage inventing a super-efficient engine over 20 years of playing around throiugh the process of miss-measuring torque ?
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 19:32 asciilifeform: was actually quite a feat, all of the various compilers were able to freely exchange data structures
mircea_popescu: a yes yes, 3 stroke
mircea_popescu: he was young, sent to write some article or w/e. the salient points were that this was a 2 stroke engine, and the doods were inferring power on the basis of torque but measured on a different circumference.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not readily. he spent 20+yrs flaming perpetuum-mobilists, alchemists, aetherists, etc., will need a bit moardetail to remember which piece this was
mircea_popescu: got a link to the al item handy too ?
asciilifeform: there's a (long ago) quite famous ru short story satirizing this exact thing
mircea_popescu: they have a book on torque measurements an' errything.
mircea_popescu: uncle al even has a portrait of three of these, making a super-unitary efficiency engine.
mircea_popescu: certainly unstructured in a certain way.
asciilifeform: i'd compare it to english -- harmless to learn for talking to folx on the net, but just about lethal as a mothertongue
asciilifeform: in so far as anybody ever knew, there was not a second, nonwinblowz, side to shitoshi. microshit mind to the hilt.
mircea_popescu: ave1 i will say the "test harness for rsa/etc" is a very solid usecase for file-fed fg-emu.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787348 << depends entirely who'd it won it with, i guess. certainly smgl winning with naggum didn't work out (though a good argument can be brought that's not nearly what happened there). ☝︎
asciilifeform: unfortunately wrong animal : c programmer is not a pitt, but moar of a caged mouse, ~incapable of toilet training, will leave trails of droppings where he goes.
asciilifeform: if you ask a c programmer why he thinks it is acceptable to define , e.g, string, as 'pointer into a potentially infinite row of crapola, maybe someone forgot the null terminator' he will ~always bring back answer of 'stfu, terrorist' (i.e. 'never thought about it, and don't intend to')
mircea_popescu: and i very much suspect any man who ever answered a why with "so that...". because really now.
asciilifeform: so can haz a hypothetical contrary ? i.e. how would it have looked to have 'standard interface' to a thing which itself has no intention of obeying any standards ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "they did not make a standard ffi; and thereby perished." , no purpose involved, forget "to", there's no to.
asciilifeform does not, then , disagree. but thought that orig thread was re 'they did not make a standard ffi to talk with c-land, and thereby perished'
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of articulating c "in such a way as to make it a civilisation", it is a matter of articulating WHY it isn't.
asciilifeform: but it's a fungus.
asciilifeform: that's the problem tho, if you could articulate a useful model of the c shitsoup, it would not be shitsoup, but merely another civilization with which one could potentially make commerce, like with japan say
asciilifeform: ave1: the reason i wrote my mechanism as seen in ch8, is not only that it was the simplest physically possible that i could think of , but that i regard any invocation of randomola where i cannot substitute a known value for testing, as a serious problem -- how is one to know that the proggy actually does what is claimed with the randomola ? rather than, e.g., 'lose' some (or all of it) along the way and take a constant as the 'rando
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 16:33 mircea_popescu: ave1 is your dancing around the entropy problem with files etc driven by the fact you don't have a fg, incidentally ?
asciilifeform: was actually quite a feat, all of the various compilers were able to freely exchange data structures ☟︎
asciilifeform: trinque: the interesting bit is that the bolix folx did 'make gut bacteria', they had a c and even fortran compiler shipped with the box
trinque: asciilifeform: I don't think you take my meaning. Killing bacteria is a fine thing if you do it; the lisp guys didn't. Another strategy is engulfing bacteria and making it part of your digestive process, with all the added complexity and risk that entails.
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman's also inits the tty, in a FG-specific way
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 15:46 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787216 << it seems rather, that first you should evaluate the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787207 and see if indeed it makes sense, or it's just the proverbial "first notion that formed in head upon quarter seccond's apprehension of $item" ; if indeed it is needed, legitimately, then the next step is to make a file handler that eats your file as you want it on one hand and emulates fg
ave1: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787233, good point, I have been thinking of other ways. The basic use case is to have a way to test the key generation (and other operations) in a repeatable way. With a live random generator this is impossible. Also time is a factor here, with a correctly primed file, I can generate a key in a second, without it can be a process that takes from 6 seconds to an hour (empirically determined) ☝︎
trinque: a sort of allergic refusal to engage the world strategically as it is, battle already won in mind.
mircea_popescu: contrary to the claims "lisp is not a perl, commonlisp is a specification not an implementation" in thee 1984-1994 interval lisp was exactly a perl. it didn't have to be a perl, though, it could have been well specificed from the beginning.
asciilifeform: re the process separation -- it is moar of a cardboard wall than actual wall, yes. i for one still prefer cardboard to no wall at all between toilet and kitchen.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787303 <<< the problem here is very much like the problem of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-31#1778809 : you look at item, call it "c machine" and think anachronistically it stands the test of time. it does not -- at the time lisp failed to properly specify, what became retrospectively "the c machine" did not exist yet ; and a different outlay of powers in the field / attractors on the table ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787295 << yes. a problem very much similar to raising a middle class girl in such poverty of stimuli she can't then cut it on her own, once off father's seclusion tank. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-14 15:02 mircea_popescu: (this is the deep, and political meaning of the rowhammer class of attacks : it has rendered amazon's business entirely worthless ; much like basic physics make tesla be a paper-only usg venture, so now the last remaining flagship. all hopes now pinned on googles artificial "intelligence" [and i guess "quantum" wank].)
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 15:46 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787216 << it seems rather, that first you should evaluate the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787207 and see if indeed it makes sense, or it's just the proverbial "first notion that formed in head upon quarter seccond's apprehension of $item" ; if indeed it is needed, legitimately, then the next step is to make a file handler that eats your file as you want it on one hand and emulates fg
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 17:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the directly analogous to 'hong kong' algo would be (brace yerself) separate processes for ada and c-crapolade, connected via ipc (under a unixlike, prolly 'domainsocket'). because otherwise, they live in same process, and if c-crapolade is entrusted with making e.g. a valid adastring, it can lie about the length and hose the ada routine, or simply fandango over address space as c-crapolade is wont to, and so forth.