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assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 20:05:36; trinque: takes over what? who cares if some poor guy still has an iPhone?
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 20:06:20; ascii_field: PeterL: the notion of 'takes over' is broken
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317405 and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317404 control. has "industry" "taken over" "farming" ? no, it has not, people still farm. except, people who farm (argentina) get to suck the cock of people who industry (romania). but otherwise, feudalism continues unimpeded both as a thing in itself in east asia and as a thing to look forward to, maybe one day ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Cray Faq Part 2: Tales from the crypto and other bar stories ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uOuh )
assbot: Cooling system of Cray 2 super-computer - Stock Image T450/0126 - Science Photo Library ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uKe5 )
ascii_field: (or claimed to, at any rate)
mircea_popescu: check it out, "two phase collant", it's a thing
ascii_field: hence the bubbles
ascii_field: this was part of the design
mircea_popescu: "with liquid cooling fluid bubbling over its brain" << if the coolant bubbles you got serious problems. it's not supposed to do that.
BingoBoingo: So pete still working on a PR setup? How does their compensation work? One share per tard tear? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: stody of her kids to their dad because she had the kids on her case but because she was filmed letting her friend use the card they said she was neglecting to 'use state resources alloted for her kids' on her kids, so they opened a case against her and the judge let the kids say who they wanted to be with and it was dad. "
BingoBoingo: Foodstamp culture: "I saw an episode of Bridezillas that she wanted to use EBT for her wedding cake. Except it was her friends card and it was not a store she was getting it from it was a lady baking out of her house and the baker lady was going to buy the stuff for the cake and like $700 in groceries as her 'payment'. They all got fines, the baker got shut down and the friend lost her ability to receive stamps and I think lost cu
mircea_popescu: maybe phf, but the dude's not even bothered to collect the pile of mushrooms he earned doing i don't recall what for eulora
thestringpuller: news to me
ascii_field: and prolly other interesting things.
ascii_field: aha this i recall
ascii_field: ah in that sense
mircea_popescu: well we can't hire mod6 mostly because if we do the foundation ends.
ascii_field: so far, other than pieces of #3, and the whole of #7, it's all things that sit still except when i push'em.
mircea_popescu: not like there's not work to do.
mircea_popescu: take your pick of the items in there.
ascii_field: and to what
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: supposing for a moment that the notion was a serious one, who should we be hiring ?
ascii_field: http://heninen.net/njet/index.html << ru ver. and link to (i think) original audio.
assbot: Njet Molotoff lyrics + English translation ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7tKXo )
ascii_field: kakobrekla: 'Finlandia, Finlandia, sinne taas matkalla oli Iivana.'
mircea_popescu: anjyway. while this... project is epicly delayed and way the fuck over budget, i am not particularly worried .
ascii_field: eh, me console is designed for this
mircea_popescu: we pee on him to put him out ?
ascii_field spins, like turtle ☟︎
mircea_popescu: basically far from ascii_field getting paid, i think the thing here is, s.nsa should be hiring.
mircea_popescu: and cardano is vaguely bolted into either 7 or 4. in fact the entire anthill got opened mostly through there.
mircea_popescu: yeah, succint like 82 life sentences to run concurrently.
gribble: artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 28 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 47 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
mircea_popescu: other than that there's other things (ie, a bitcoin game etc etc) but i got those.
mircea_popescu: Thing 7. We're trying to create a pr core, which is roughly in the spot Thing 4 was a year ago, ie, when artifex got somehow married to it.
mircea_popescu: Thing 6. We're trying to create a sane computer (other than pogo). Part of this consideration is some in-principle fundamental research work into ternary to be maybe attached to Thing 3.
mircea_popescu: Thing 5. We're trying to create a sane os. This led to gentoo being cut open, libc being cut open, gcc being cut open, and we're still barfing at the results. I don't even want to think about it.
mircea_popescu: Thing 4. We're trying to create a proper (=crypto) communication system ; as part of this gpg was cut up and we're still barfing at the results. this is a huge task and if thee end product is reasonably well understood, the design's still widely open.
phf: mircea_popescu: i was referring to those instances where it's ascii fielding objections from assorted people, not necessarily debates between you two
mircea_popescu: Thing 3. We're trying to re-create a software management system that's based on sanity (=crypto). this mostly exists gratia alf & mod6 efforts, and it's called v.
mircea_popescu: Thing 2. We're trying to create an actually statically linked, weaponized bitcoind that's suitable for the pogo.
mircea_popescu: Thing 1. We're trying to reduce bitcoind to a form where it's actually worth cutting trees to print it ; ☟︎
mircea_popescu: to ennumerate whatever the fuck we're even doing.
ascii_field: i'm seein' five or six thises
mircea_popescu: actually, this is probably long overdue and a major public service. so i ordered teh gals bring cognac and i shall proceed ☟︎
ascii_field: which this
mircea_popescu: but the spots on my spleen were because we can't seem to pin this down for five minutes.
mircea_popescu: yeah well that never fucking worked.
ascii_field: ^ i think he was referring in general to judgements on ~the possible~ based on ~the extant~
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 19:21:12; phf: ascii_field: that's the problem with a lot of lisp conversations here, your interlocutors have some vague idea about how things are done right now and in unix world. even unixisms are used not in their "pure form", but in their final gnu/linux state. there's complete lack of semantic match between that and historical lisp. ultimately debates are reduced to "macros are bad because cpp is bad"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317323 << i think this is a drastic reduction that entirely misses the point. i'm generally careful not to discuss things i don't understand. ☝︎
ascii_field sees 'newfag' for 1st time in engl.
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 19:03:04; PeterL: mircea_popescu: there is no reason under the sun to process, manage, consider or in any way interact with subdollar transactions. << you are going to link min bet amounts to the USD/BTC price now? are you going to have the website show the "estimated $ amount" like the VC circus sites do?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317314 << dollar is only in this discussion because trying to give a newfag dimension to it. otherwise, the transaction fees/limits are established byt miners. ☝︎
ascii_field: but it never made any sense how one could evict a 'tenant' on one of these.
mircea_popescu: well... tghey get more rooted boxes.
ascii_field: wtf, how does this work.
ascii_field: and no, i don't expect any takers. and don't intend to 'emo' the non-takers
ascii_field: but to state 'various xxxxx is now available for a fee, unless at some point i get rich enough to afford the armour without having to pull own plow.'
ascii_field: anyway my objective wasn't to 'emo' people - recall, i have two bits of emotion register.
mircea_popescu: a lifetime is not temporally specified.
ascii_field: pretty sure i got maybe a year or two
mircea_popescu: anyway, i appreciate the sentiment, i really do, it's pure love "oh im sorry i couldn't do more". fine, but don't let it consume you.
ascii_field: gotta work, pretty much every day of the year.
ascii_field: they're only in my head in the sense that i'm not clever enough to be 'stand on own' economically as described in mircea_popescu's article re: same.
phf: ascii_field: you're producing the most output by a margin of anyone here
mircea_popescu: i dun think anyone was really going "hey, alf is not doing enough works!" or anything ?
ascii_field: 'cause if i starve, this cheats the shareholders.
ascii_field: again, not trying to troll people, but fact of the matter is that i only got so much 'voluntary'. and gotta prioritize.
mircea_popescu: after all, soviet armies even are a thing because the reason prefers to sleep, or how was that quote.
mircea_popescu: and as always is the case in life, if one doesn't manage to make one thing work, one'll sooner or later meet the same thing later on, with worse downside and less upside.
mircea_popescu: iirc they were disinclined from getting servers even, for yet
assbot: [BTC-dev] Treasury October 2015 statement ... ( http://bit.ly/1HdlXV4 )
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ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i posted all of this to add another 'can' to the list: services for pay. if anyone is interested in such.
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317424 << Like bitcoin I am going to have to value it as an Aleph, just dunno which one ☝︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: that's really the lot of it
mircea_popescu: eh, relax wouldja. do what you can and let others do what they can and that's the whole story.
ben_vulpes has been waiting for this particular old tomato for some time
ascii_field: BUT if trb foundation really wants various things, it can make'em happen by... paying.
ascii_field: from this point on i will have to ignore everything else, until rollout. ☟︎
ascii_field: my main project is cardano. which i would like to roll out before i get 'accidented', starve (which may happen quite soon), or exhaust the patience of my co-author or of the shareholders. and thus,
ascii_field: i suppose i ought to cut to the chase:
mircea_popescu: but in the forum there's no place for anything else.
ascii_field was not advocating the merits of soviet armies.
ascii_field: anyway i know very well that mircea_popescu runs a roman army, where you gotta bringe the horse, and the armour, and not a soviet army.
mircea_popescu: if i cared what kenyans value anything i might ask them. as it is, they don't even get a voice in blockchain size.
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 19:02:01; mircea_popescu: this goalpost moving is giving me spots on the spleen.
mircea_popescu: all this is rank nonsense.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to put the thing in more distant, and thus perhaps more comprehensible terms even if you'll likely not be able to resist the temptation to crush naisl with the microscope : "what is the value of rsa to kenyan ?" and "obviously all this 'crypto work' is general 20yo cunt good looks" to kenyan.
mircea_popescu: sorta canine, i always thought.
mircea_popescu: neither of these approaches is actually meaningful, you're just murking up the material.
trinque marvels at both the output of this guy and his assessment of it
ascii_field: e.g., do i contribute something in particular, or is it fungible like the 'good looks of a 20yo cunt'
ascii_field: wanted to see if anyone, incl. mircea_popescu, might find an error in my reasoning.
mircea_popescu: nothing is not the word.
ascii_field: i know full well that it is worth nothing.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu seems to think that i was looking for an answer other than the one i already derived.