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mircea_popescu: the russians got steel plants faster with stalin then they'd have without. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 20:59:46; trinque: could very well be that the mechanism by which a central govt steals from a large population via fiat monetary systems got us the CPUs we use today far earlier than they'd have been had without the theft
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317506 << this is almost a certainty. ☝︎
ascii_field: mainly i gotta live out the oath that i swore.
ascii_field: but wanted to take a proper shit into the record
mircea_popescu: so then what is teh problem!
mircea_popescu: well so then!
mircea_popescu: most people live with a mix of the two, which is fine, pick a mix you like and stick to it.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu is, i think, accustomed to smashing idiots' skulls and instinctively reaches for the designated hammer. but i'm not an idiot and don't expect things.
mircea_popescu: you don't want to be in start-ups, don't. do not expect you get to open your mouth.
ascii_field: this might be asking the mega-s33krit, but what kind of people ~does~ mircea_popescu use to, e.g., maintain mircea_popescucoin ?
mircea_popescu: you don't want to do webwork, don't. do not expect any sort of actual pay.
mircea_popescu: it's either or, pick one or the other and enough with it already.
mircea_popescu: you are stubbornly missing here that what you'd like the world to be does not matter one whit, and whatever way you dress that masturbation up doesn't change its masturbatory content.
mircea_popescu: nor do i hire plumbers to do the code nor do i hire usian kids to do my plumbing.
mircea_popescu: which is why if he came to have a chat with me i'd have the girls send him off.
ascii_field: ought to have used a republic plumber
ascii_field: but i thought mircea_popescu didn't care for those
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as he doesn't get to put his name on the thing.
ascii_field: does that make him 'salary type' ?
ascii_field: aha. fella did something that needed doing
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 21:01:03; mircea_popescu: ok this is the most insane thing i ever saw. so plumber, looks like he escaped comicon or something, dorkiest dude ever. but THEN he proceeds to CUT THROUGH METAL PLATE FREEHAND
mircea_popescu: oh, i don't recall, 200 pesos for the labour or something it was
mircea_popescu: im either doing too many things at once or whatever. who ? link ? what ?
ascii_field: the fella with the angle grinder
ascii_field: what did you pay that plumber in anyway
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: wasn't speaking of 'salary types'
mircea_popescu: \and in the early revolutionary phases at that.
mircea_popescu: i understand that salaried work is both more common and more convenient, but i have personally no patience for salary types, and more importantly, there's no room in b-a for such, because it's not a fucking ewmpire, it's a republic,
mircea_popescu: this is entirely besides the point. how you organise your own affairs is your own call. b-a is an equity play : you do things ; when and if they bring money in, you can have money ; when and if they bring chicks in, you can have chicks. that's how equity plays work : you get a claim to whatever future brings.
ascii_field: to me 'web dev' means 'work 17y.o. does' and is exactly equivalent to 'you are worth your weight in pork' ☟︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i don't think it is 'emo' to question my priorities when, after giving away my work to apparent applause for a year, i mention starving and audience suggests 'web dev'
ascii_field: see also my observation about being dumber than a chicken.
mircea_popescu: same thing happens to me, i get various bits i end up keeping for a long time.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317481 << the thing that has haunted alf for years now. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes whty is the painter with ebola chick wearing high heeled platforms ?
ascii_field: i don't see the connection
mircea_popescu: that in the same go, as you understand one, you understand the other. they being the exact same thing.
ascii_field happens to agree
ascii_field: but yes, the machines were expensive and the room temp iq folks were kept out.
mircea_popescu: because it has no mechanisms of institutionalized opression of the median.
ascii_field: a kind of 'trb cleanup' of its time
mircea_popescu: and it continues to appear to work for as long as it fails to appear interesting.
ascii_field: it was actually an answer to the tower of babel which prevailed then.
mircea_popescu: the problem here is keeping the herd out of computing, nothing else.
ascii_field: common lisp did not exist in the 70s
mircea_popescu: c worked in the 70s just fine, also. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and once they become popular, they will BE the sea of lisp shit. ☟︎
ascii_field: the ones that don't reference items in the sea of c shit - work.
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 20:20:06; *: ben_vulpes fails to find the logline wherein asciilifeform claims that common lisp packages "tend to work unlike in other languages"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317425 << the one that went "this works [because nobody's ever used it, like you know, burning man before it got populat]" ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i keep getting sucked into discussing science fiction movie scripts with this guy.
ascii_field: you might be fucking the wives of his dead skin cells
ascii_field: ftr it is my considered belief that if tmsr is sunk, it will be because it was unable to fab si.
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 20:08:35; ascii_field: microshit's very existence has deformed thought processes of a great many people.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317412 << and mcdonalds' existence has kept alive a great many people that belonged dead. and all this has some ~statistical~ influences. it is not relevant on a case by case basis and it can't be an excuse for you. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: looky, if we miss the window to civilisation we'll have missed the window to civilisation, that's all.
ascii_field: ^ was actually about this fab
assbot: Logged on 13-06-2015 17:27:26; mircea_popescu: if you need anything that has to be made on something in the middle, make it now.
ascii_field: recall the thread re: 'the middle dies' ?
ascii_field: esp. as the old 'secondhand' fabs fold.
mircea_popescu: so i guess this can wait a few years then.
ascii_field: (show me where we can do a 486 or a dram of the time, for something like what the shared die folks charge.)
mircea_popescu: you know for a fact, incontrovertible and above your ability to contest, that you can do 100 cpus, and it doesn'rt even cost that much.
mircea_popescu: and no, i wont bother the bitfury guy, or anyone actually involved in doing things with this inept nonsense. for the same reason i shouldn't have queried ben_vulpes yest.
ascii_field: i tried.
ascii_field: they won't package or test or guarantee so much as 1 working unit.
mircea_popescu: umd will let you tack on 100 cpus to some prototype run they got, won't it ?
ascii_field: teach me how to make 100 cpus.
mircea_popescu: so no, the problem is not an absent "mass market". the problem is that there's work to be done for future uncertain benefit.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: in all srsnes i'd like to know how.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field we can make 100 cpus TODAY, and on tech that didn't even exist in 1960.
ascii_field: (how else do you resolve the problem of there being 1000 takers to each)
mircea_popescu: go for the hot ones like you own their mothers.
mircea_popescu: that's the martians that put the chlorotic non-elites on earth.
mircea_popescu: a matter that the top male of 1015 (ie, STRONG) fucked hotties and had good children. whereas the top male of 2015 (ie, SMART) fucks horsefaces and is happy for it.
mircea_popescu: stop fucking all the ugly inept women. that's how you get stunted kids.
mircea_popescu: yet these idiots think she's someone's first love.
mircea_popescu: well i can't find it. anyway, fucktarded outdoor thing in ba, "siempre se vuelve al primer amor" trying to sell italian classes. depicts an ugly chick in flats holding a huge red heart.
ascii_field: still is, until mircea_popescu or i figure out how to make 100 cpus.
ascii_field: and how this is the root of the sux
ascii_field: don't have the thread handy, but at one point i explained how computing is tricky because its very existence as its current thing - that is, vlsi - is predicated on mass uptake
mircea_popescu: lemme find this ad, maybe i manage.
mircea_popescu: (not for maleducation. for poor sexual hygiene. fucking all the roadkill and such.)
mircea_popescu: i blame the parents.
ascii_field: martians came and put them in?
mircea_popescu: until and unless you come to terms with the simple fact that you're special, you'll be stuck trying to explain friends to me.
ascii_field: sure. then where did we get the retarded elite?
mircea_popescu: not ALL. there is no all.
mircea_popescu: no, they couldn't.
ascii_field: if they wanted
mircea_popescu: all that discussion was about the mass.
mircea_popescu: so then what ?
ascii_field: so then.
ascii_field: recall the meth thread ?
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "abundance makes lazy apes want to watch tv". guess what ? it doesn't have to! nobody forces you to misuse your freedom!
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 20:08:16; ascii_field: 'when mass markets develop, pluralism suffers the most -- there is no longer a concept of healthy participants: people become concerned with the individual "winner", and instead of people being good at whatever they are doing and proud of that, they will want to flock around the winner to share some of the glory.'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317411 << this, ftr, is deeply wrong. pluralism does not suffer because "mass markets". it would benefit from them, if the [people who were supposed to be the] elite weren't fucktards. ☝︎
ascii_field: linked site claims that the last known cray2 was not thrown out until '99.
assbot: Bitcoin and the poor on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uOKE )