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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is guitarist ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform masamune;d better be. ben_vulpes hey, find the hole, get a prize.
ben_vulpes: no i'm going to plug my ears say neener and make it gabriel_laddel's problem
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't optional
asciilifeform: also gabriel_laddel_p's boxen flying off the shelf, but still no permanent postbox..?
mircea_popescu: oh speaking of which, gabriel_laddel_p why not packaging fuckgoats with the masamunes ? ☟︎
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: say that you derp around with MGL_MAT and make a neat handwriting recognition module like the HP Compaq TC1100 had.
gabriel_laddel_p: they get what they get from $PERSON_WHO_ORDERED_FROM_ME
asciilifeform: wai not, gabriel_laddel_p ? e.g., FUCKGOATS, has a www
gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: I have 4 other people who want them/one. Need to organize my thoughts, stop reading about [redacted] and actually respond to their emails.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: does your thing have a www ?
gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: not at all: 410 + the price of the hardware.
gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: will be (figuring out how to, and then) sending you an encrypted gpg thingy tomorrow.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: it's a pun on moon hotels
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 04:25 ben_vulpes reconsidering that masamoone box
gabriel_laddel_p: !!key ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: how do i know you're not running the longest and lowest-dough scam with these masamune boxen?
phf: ben_vulpes: (if (search ...) (error ...) (what-happens-here???))
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc the longest-enduring venus probe croaked after 1h. from overheat.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 02:05 phf: ben_vulpes: actually you're get-output-streaming twice there, first time http://btcbase.org/patches/hashes_and_errors#L24 and second time http://btcbase.org/patches/hashes_and_errors#L28
phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/hashes_and_errors#L118 you don't really want to do this. you're subseq'ing there to strip the a/ b/ but that's not at all a guarantee! i have a vpatch with `diff -ib -ruN /Users/pf/cmucl20d-build/src/hemlock/abbrev.lisp src/abbrev.lisp` in it for example. at the very least you want to abstract it away into its own function. that would correctly operate on a hashed-path datastructure. ☟︎☟︎
phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/hashes_and_errors#L68 you don't really want to use handler-bind here. you want h-b only when you're working with the whole restart machinery. (handler-case (let ...) (external-program-error (error) ...)) is equivalent of the try/catch that you're doing here
adlai: !~later tell ben_vulpes see preceding message
adlai: ben_vulpes: dunno how this happened, but the link to http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/hashes_and_errorsvpatchben_vulpes.sig is missing a bunch of periods
asciilifeform: it'd seem to me that if i throw in a seal that crashes gpg, ben_vulpes's vtron will say 'good signature' !
asciilifeform: unrelated, ben_vulpes : how come you search the gpg output for 'bad signature' rather than 'good signature...' ?
phf: ben_vulpes: actually you're get-output-streaming twice there, first time http://btcbase.org/patches/hashes_and_errors#L24 and second time http://btcbase.org/patches/hashes_and_errors#L28 ☟︎
asciilifeform: neato ben_vulpes
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/veh-patch-hashes_and_errorsvpatch << CH - veh patch: hashes_and_errors.vpatch
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: answered
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you built a curl with js?!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'd genuinely lul over discovering that this exists
jurov: ben_vulpes: if #t becomes dull some day, you can stir it by translating it to javascript
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu has it
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you omitted the third and obvious option
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes considering the only reason your lisp vtron even exists is because you're apparently fond of reimplementation,
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 22:16 ben_vulpes: not indefinitely postpone releasing this vpatch while i wait for stan to release an ada cryptor and link that from cl
mircea_popescu: and in other fictions, http://68.media.tumblr.com/d90db4a0d70dabb47bbb9806b3438a62/tumblr_oeuu9lQCsf1rrq7ino1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i say "keep shelling to it for as long as that's what you do, but once you change that change it to something sane"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do i have such a reputation for blocking work ?
ben_vulpes: anyways, mircea_popescu says "don't shell out to sha512sum"?
phf: ben_vulpes: correct
a111: Logged on 2016-12-26 02:38 phf: ben_vulpes: according to master this is the reason http://glyf.org/tmp/ironclad-sha512.patch unsigned for obvious reasons
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, phf, asciilifeform, mod6: thoughts?
ben_vulpes: i'm also not really in a mood to make ironclad_genesis.vpatch today
trinque: !!key ben_vulpes
trinque: ben_vulpes: www-wot package farts out a bunch of json index files for the search
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider, by crown decree, visa issued chip cards to ~all of usa. SANS RSA
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 21:06 ben_vulpes: in other brute force attacks, did we do http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/02/hacked-just-six-seconds-criminals-need-moments-guess-card-number/ ?
phf: ben_vulpes: well, that's why there's appcode.
phf: ben_vulpes: it's actual the opposite lulz right now. intellij idea is excellent tool for shitstacking, but i know ok devs who stick to subltime text or vim because "lightweight" "real hacker tool", even though they lack discipline and skill to use those tools effectively. it's like "no, you should probably use this thing, so that i don't have to fucking deal with your inability to format your own source file"
phf: ben_vulpes: "i don't know what's going on here" "ok, let's see what the source says *opens source, starts reading*" "???!?!??!??!?"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that'd be how i actually learned anything useful, finding a master jumping when told.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 19:36 ben_vulpes: did mircea_popescu think the piece was actually supposed to be useful for teaching noobz to c0d3?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 19:35 ben_vulpes: yes.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i worked in an otherwise inexpressibly-dire and usgtronic shithole briefly where there was ~office with whiskey~
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, phf, et al ^
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/how-to-learn-programming/comment-page-1#comment-96
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 19:46 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-27#1591017 << i intuited the same thing, but that it didn't sha512 properly until...last year? induces ye olde pucker
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc the one in gnupg is drepper's
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dude... someone tell lafond if womenz dun listen it's not about the womenz. << he has comment box and I am busy with unprecedented USDA lulz rivaling unprecedented Israel lulz
ben_vulpes: did mircea_popescu think the piece was actually supposed to be useful for teaching noobz to c0d3? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if the solution is in java, then it isn't a solution, and chances are that your 'problem' is also not a problem
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 17:13 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pray tell why do you recommed unity in favour of eulora ? eulora bots exist as a matter of fact, with people hacking on them and repl-ing the results after a 10 minute compile. what equivalent to this does unity offer ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall your article on one michael church ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: same reason central african presidents are always "doctor", aside "president"
phf: mircea_popescu: that's not what i meant. there are others here who talk about good or bad, where's i don't care, because the cause and effect there is so far removed from where i'm standing i can only look at it in entomological terms
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i guess the rurality point is actually very apt. just because the monkeys got force-moved to urban "developments" doesn't mean they're not still retarded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: basic fit-in-head
jurov: poor ben_vulpes, imo he meant the article for completely different demographic than present fine society. almost everyone i know began with barfalicious basic or turbopascal
asciilifeform: trinque: betcha ben_vulpes's 'xcode', or perhaps the latest microshit studio, does this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when you read soup that makes 0 sense to unarmed eyes, the chances are that: it WAS NOT WRITTEN BY HUMAN HAND
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: naturally by hitting ctrl-spacebar after each vague guess, and reading off the suggested menu crapolade, 'hmm... datesomethingorother...ctrlspace..now...nowwhat...ctrlspace!!1111!111ctrlspace'
diana_coman: in other words, mircea_popescu, it is "accessible" and "easy to get things going" - in all the wrong directions, of course, but nobody mentioned anything about direction now, did they
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: java slaves actually use specially-made editors that 'automate' this atrocity
Framedragger: oh god i hear mircea_popescu's mind-cpu resetting :(
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no repl but it's very easy to get things going in unity. though i found it to be clunky in the sense of not being able to contain simple project in one's head, as you have to look at parameters around the IDE/project as well as source code (parts of which are 'attached' to objects). but it's very usable.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pray tell why do you recommed unity in favour of eulora ? eulora bots exist as a matter of fact, with people hacking on them and repl-ing the results after a 10 minute compile. what equivalent to this does unity offer ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and in other well behaved party girls, http://68.media.tumblr.com/79ac8c9145897f1d57cd64858a723b0e/tumblr_odf7sfDuCf1qa7pxgo1_400.gif
a111: Logged on 2014-12-10 00:51 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an article (or perhaps a thread here? but can't seem to find it...) about an archetypical u.s. expat. fellow keeps a pub somewhere in thailand, or cambodia, etc. the locals - drink for free. he fancies that if he begins to run out of dough, he can always start charging. but somehow in the back of his head he knows what will happen to his sorry arse if he were to do so.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-10#949583 << not quite it, but the only mention i turned up in the l0gz ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 03:51 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-26#1590731 << i think maybe back away slowly from ironclad lest it blow up in my face then
mircea_popescu: meanwhile back at disrupt camp hackathon, http://68.media.tumblr.com/2ccf69e8583719c685f52d6405feaaf8/tumblr_mu768n3kfb1sz40t4o1_1280.jpg
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: noted, re. notion of 'competition'.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes which one is a "modal" ? "carousel" is that stupid shit when pics keep scrolling like a 2.0 version of <marquee> right
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 01:44 mircea_popescu: Framedragger you're going towards the republican dns / unified name registry thing
Framedragger: ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/how-to-learn-programming/comment-page-1#comment-95
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i r guess in some cases trilema titles are too trite.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The Problem of Too Much Money | Bplans: <http://articles.bplans.com/the-problem-of-too-much-money/>; Why Too Much Money is Worse than Too Little | OPEN Forum: <http://www.openforum.com/articles/why-too-much-money-is-worse-than-too-little-1/>; What problems tend to come out of having too much money ? - Quora: <https://www.quora.com/What-problems-tend-to-come-out-of-having-too-much-mone
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The Problem of Too Much Money | Bplans: <http://articles.bplans.com/the-problem-of-too-much-money/>; Why Too Much Money is Worse than Too Little | OPEN Forum: <http://www.openforum.com/articles/why-too-much-money-is-worse-than-too-little-1/>; What problems tend to come out of having too much money ? - Quora: <https://www.quora.com/What-problems-tend-to-come-out-of-having-too-much-money>
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Slavery : the best thing for you . No, seriously . on Trilema - A blog by ...: <http://trilema.com/2014/slavery-the-best-thing-for-you-no-seriously/>
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this does not answer the wtf question
mircea_popescu: and in psycho news today, http://68.media.tumblr.com/968a20d479625db9f92f95f798431466/tumblr_odudrrpvSo1vf83ojo10_1280.jpg
a111: Logged on 2016-12-26 08:44 gabriel_laddel_p: 0.o http://www.gaussian.com/g_prod/gv5b.htm
a111: Logged on 2016-12-27 04:47 ben_vulpes: have we done "sha512sum will not omit filenames from output" yet?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-25 21:49 ben_vulpes: it is a small but worth-noting difference between "put yer patches in this here directory, your signatures in this other, and your pubkeys in this third".
a111: Logged on 2016-12-26 20:22 mircea_popescu: incidentally, patches currently can be arbitrarily renamed with no visible effects is it ?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-26 20:01 phf: ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=veh i renamed it, because right now all patches live in a global namespace. i'm not yte sure if i want to change that
mircea_popescu: and in other teachable moments, http://68.media.tumblr.com/6ef391758bb0bd96c99fb35895f358a5/tumblr_nd1md1koxb1tgearyo1_1280.jpg
deedbot: shinohai updated rating of diana_coman from 1 to 2 << Eulora trades always fair and fortunate.