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BingoBoingo: Not always, pariah dog is a thing
asciilifeform: or at least one of the two
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 04:43:11; BingoBoingo: "I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319724 << there is a kind of primordial fog that especially dim people believe to still exist and matter ☝︎
punkman: there were a couple local ebay-clones here that passed all their data to the taxman. "oh you sold 6 old phones this year? and what did you not have time to incorporate and register for VAT?"
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 04:37:56; punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this."
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319722 << while in usa they are commanded to police income tax ☝︎
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm5RZi )
BingoBoingo: "I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance ☟︎
assbot: Amazon and eBay 'liable' if they ignore VAT fraud - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXACn0 )
punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this." ☟︎
asciilifeform: but it turns out, there's a ready list !
asciilifeform: y'know, i used to think that it would be at least a little tricky to find initial feedstock for the biodiesel boilers
asciilifeform: 'Another woman was asking for help with the legal bills for her divorce, as her new husband had bolted to Israel. She was a little dramatic in her plea: “My life — the innocent, carefree life which I had known, and the blissful happy life of hopes and dreams shattered overnight. Instead of partaking of gourmet meals and donning my kalla/bridal trousseau, chaos and turmoil, sprinkled with vicious gossip became my daily food
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm3iWY )
punkman: other than wot-produced warez, would sure be nice to trade lists of signatures on warez
assbot: The last untouchable in Europe | Europe | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXzOOX )
asciilifeform: that's 'silk road' thinking.
punkman: (actually a thing if anyone's not familiar with it)
punkman: and how do you trade bookz with a lot of people? you go to bookzz dot org
asciilifeform: see, warez traditionally works as a trade thing
asciilifeform would scan yet moar bookz if he had with whom to trade
punkman: well I don't know anyone that scans books or rips movies
asciilifeform: (yet the umpteenth reason why gossipd is a weapon of the apocalypse)
asciilifeform: warez outside of wot makes approximately the same amount of sense as every other wotless wild thing.
punkman: enjoyed the quality while it lasted, if only they did more old movies
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:02:16; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319556 << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ?
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319584 << you don't, but it was a nice tree ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 01:02:25; asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ?
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319645 << dogs will eat teh sausage, and might even stay to watch the porn ☝︎
trinque: yep, I think asciilifeform has it, that it'd be something to build around gossipd
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 diff'ing logs would take some work. (think of all the netsplits, slightly different timestamps, lines slightly out of order, etc) ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion' ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 01:12:01; mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative.
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mircea_popescu: th injury-- since everything is possible, why aren't you enjoying everything?-- the personality structure becomes overwhelmingly defensive. "If I were Kim Kardashian, then I would be able to do X!" is NOT envy, flip it over and read the redacted obverse: "Only Kim Kardsahians can do X -- therefore it's not my fault that I can't!"
mircea_popescu: But this critique is backwards, it assumes the magazine is trying to trick its audience, this is wrong, the audience is using the magazine to trick itself. The audience wants this distance. It wants heroes, celebrities, people with power-- it wants an upper class-- and it wants them inaccessible. Envy? No, that's advertising, this is the "news." This is what happens when a whole generation's narcissism is threatened wi
mircea_popescu: and less accessible-- except through Us Weekly.
mircea_popescu: Of course the easy critique to make, and even this one Hess was not allowed to formulate, is that in this way The Economist conveys the impression that it has personal access to the levers of power, the way Us Weekly recasts publicists as "sources close to Kim Kardashian", shrinking the gap between the magazine and the sources and artificially widening the distance between Kardashian and us. She becomes more important
mircea_popescu: and from tlp :
mircea_popescu: kinda why the one thing the burgeois can't stand is being laughed at, to connect that old point.
mircea_popescu: also why it's never a stable solution, keps needing more and more. gotta have aml , because otherwise there IS something they can do and the whole charade collapses.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the entire point of the "justice system" ie, imposition of a certain ideology over willing or unwilling objects, is not "you will get hurt" but "there is NOTHING you can do".
mircea_popescu: trinque generally, the victors have better things to do. the defeated is only important in his own system, to himself. that's how he got fucked in the first place, after all.
mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the when is besides the point, you were inquiring as to the theoretical underpinnings.
mircea_popescu: trinque tlp loved that show. iirc the next episode was the one with the forced bicycling.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares about a guy. certainly not the other guys just like him.
mircea_popescu: "this is the us president coming live from amateur night in thailand's top tranny spot!"
mircea_popescu: you kidnap it and transexual operation.
mircea_popescu: that's why you don't kill the us president so the vp can take over.\
mircea_popescu: the point is "hey, listen to your guy squeal. you gonna do something ? hm ? next week ? next month ? your guy ? isn't this sad ? you gonna do anything ? can't do anything ? you suck this bad ? what will happen when it's your turn ? still nothing ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the point isn't that "hey, we killed this guy" / "oh, you got lucky / it was an accident / never happened".
asciilifeform: this might be an advanced matter of mircea_popescutronics that i am grossly unequipped to reason about.
trinque: no, I take that back. those that bested you watching is worse than the "public"
trinque: I dunno that it really matters who's watching you fuck the pig, just so long as you're not alone with your date
asciilifeform: imho this could actually be a puzzle - how do you publicly humiliate a vanquished enemy when there is not a public ?
trinque: some british show did this very thing with the prime minister, had me roaring with laughter
trinque: this guy can even overthink forcing the head of an agency to fuck a pig...
asciilifeform: how's this work? picture a public beheading with... a studio audience ?!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we don't need it, they do
mircea_popescu has genuinely seen this, "you got a cam, something ? i feel kinda weird going at it without anything"
asciilifeform: and we need moar of this for something?
mircea_popescu: here's a secret : most porn produced today is not actually made for anyone to watch.
asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ? ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:22:48; mircea_popescu: greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319611 << who wants to watch this porn? wouldn't this be a bit like turning'em into sausages ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:18:36; mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319604 << usually i think 'drown like rat' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 << this will be a reasonably-mechanized thing with gossip ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "amd faces abyss over there being no country for independent cpu"
kakobrekla: one fat txt file ?
mircea_popescu: trinque prolly where it's going to end up eventually. not sure atm if the extra iron doors needed
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla plox to have a dump, ima vdiff it with my local logs, pack it and hash/sign
trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs ☟︎☟︎
trinque: mircea_popescu │ incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ? << certainly. does assbot perhaps dump what it has seen somewhere, kakobrekla? my logs would only go back so far.
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319491 << the common disease of the diseased is the disease. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:56:29; asciilifeform: an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319475 << no, you do not want them dead. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but the cattle still wants to "i have no choices" and "what could i do" and so forth.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:48:30; asciilifeform: late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ? << No particular reason, just entering the loss of a few into the record
mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: which is why the right time to leave is that time when leaving IS NOT YET REASONABLE.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:33:40; BingoBoingo: Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319450 << as asciilifeform's example illustrates, this is a funnel not a game. at the point X becomes reasonable, X also becomes untenable. this is how this works. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not in the sense herein contemplated.
mircea_popescu: so in what sense is this woman a woman ?
mircea_popescu: considering the jailing costs more than the alimony.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:11:34; asciilifeform: phun phakt: it is, in effect, a criminal offense for a host of this particular type of parasite to become indigent
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319423 << aha. lulziest thing in the world. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:12:59; asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319425 << hey, i had one of those, too! ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'An interim injunction handed down by a judge in Canada has granted forensic experts under MPAA supervision access to hosting accounts and domains operated by Popcorn Time, including VPN.ht, its official VPN service. Nevertheless, VPN.ht remains defiant, insisting that its service exists outside Canada and has not been compromised.'
assbot: MPAA Can Access Popcorn Time Services & VPN, Court Rules - TorrentFreak ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhLP51 )
asciilifeform: 'Update: The YTS.to domain was just signed over to the MPAA.'