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a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:13 mircea_popescu: it's shocking how little the school system does to teach anyone anything. but anyway - what the program MEANS should be decided on the basis of what it can'
t possibly fucking mean,
Framedragger: ..some kind of generic knowledge tree processing thing / semantic systems. someone must have made a small stab at this.. i mean there are natural language processing toolkits which build up context and work beyond straightforward syntax.. i don'
t know how well they are doing
mircea_popescu: which is why i'm saying, there's not much actionable here. but just because i dunno what to do with it doesn'
t mean i don'
t get drunk and dream.
mircea_popescu: and no, this isn'
t cheap "do what i mean"-ism. when i say "the flower is blue and round is the sky", the notion that the flower is ROUND is invalidated not by what I mean, but by what everything means.
mircea_popescu: and i don'
t think it is ever acceptable for machine to make shitty rsa keys "because that's what i told it to".
mircea_popescu: it's shocking how little the school system does to teach anyone anything. but anyway - what the program MEANS should be decided on the basis of what it can'
t possibly fucking mean,
☟︎ mircea_popescu: MOST of the power of trilema relies on exactly this, that I don'
t have to IFDEF and DECLARE and whatnot.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, the "fucking hell who ever heard of a program that wants you to specify what you don'
t know" essay. i recall it, and imo it is very much substantial to my complaint.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i can'
t stand his conventional bullshit. he dared criticise (young) caraqiale for "poor morals" in plays ? the schmuck borrowed on his income months in advance to dress up and bullshit like that. he has a massive vein of "never got over mom" that i loathe in writers.
diana_coman: I don'
t quite follow your analogy there I think
mircea_popescu: from my brief stint in publishing, i wouldn'
t swear the expert editor is less a contributor in the average book than the average author.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as an ideal output, i would like a debian distro that says "you can'
t possibly mean to make these keys out of 32k sets ?!"
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1487950 << for a brief spell only? i think there now may exist some inference systems which work on floating point / probabilistic truth-values? weasel words, would need to check, but wouldn'
t have thought it to have been a "brief spell" only?
☝︎ mircea_popescu: i dunno, don'
t get me wrong, fucking larry drove me nuts, "open door", seriously ?
mircea_popescu: they sure as fuck haven'
t before the greeks or w/e, that's not millions opf years.
mircea_popescu: suppose the correct solution to the "large systems" problem isn'
t exactly to use "strong typed" languages and in general, more minutely define the elements involved. suppose the solution in fact is to give up on the (nonsensical, in theory, and unfound in nature) notion of "unambiguous notation".
mircea_popescu: it will pay ransoms even as it can'
t pay to import grain
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform his NAME is. he himself, no. but just like us soldier isn'
t worth the crap he took that morning, but us soldier dog tag is worth ~1mn or so on the ransom market...
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> damn i mean, diana_coman how many students can you fail. <- myeah, I know; thing is also: they shouldn'
t have gotten that high to fail basically, not that many
mircea_popescu: re the submissions : we couldn'
t have had lots of submissions without a rsa key in it, seeing how this is ssh set neh ?
mircea_popescu: i wanted to fail the whole philosophy 101 class. mihu didn'
t think it such a good idea. short teaching career for me, thankfully.
Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1487858 << this i agree with! however, be it as it may i've never seen mp graciously accept to being wrong on some point. now, that *may* be because mp isn'
t wrong a whole lotta times, i contend, yes; but it's still hilarious to me (in a stimulating kind of way, fwiw). e.g. the chinese konspiraci thing, it was posted on qntra by mircea_popescu, and then later mircea_popescu says the theory is legit becau
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 10:30 mircea_popescu: speaking of that, asciilifeform any idea how it's possible that Submissions: 3305302 Known Moduli: 2708380 Moduli Waiting for Test: 3677 ? shouldn'
t these add up ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: no but wait. WHY is it that programmers don'
t write like mp.
diana_coman: asciilifeform> other reason is that most programmers don'
t write code in the sense that, e.g., mircea_popescu writes essays. instead, they take a shit, and strip away elements of the shit until the compiler is happy and the 'tests' pass. <- fwiw I don'
t think that those are programmers
mircea_popescu: lol. why's he keep lying anyway ? it didn'
t work the previous n times, gonna work next ?
hanbot: "ftr when he joined this place, it was purely about business and so was he. later he was wrapping business in propaganda, which is tolerable, as the core is solid. now he is wrapping propaganda in business wrap, at which point it becomes intolerable for any reasonable mind." << i don'
t, for example, seem to remember the same thing. at all.
mircea_popescu: anyway, for argentine as well as any derps who have nfi what "night life" means : follow along the fucking pictures
http://www.clujlife.com with the knowledge that a) the nudes aren'
t published, by convention, but girls go naked all the time ; b) it's a tiny fucking town, half a mil population if the school's in session.
Framedragger: yeahyeah the whole weather modelling in the future based on specific chosen parameters and models is hilarious, and gets regurgitated by media etc, i too have general aversion to this; does not mean that all of it is useless but hell if they don'
t show how they got there then that's even more ridiculous
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: heh can'
t find much on the internets for "golf club pattern" indeed, but also don'
t get its initial idea/appeal? O.O
mircea_popescu: incredible how much empty noise three people can make, especially should they be the sort of people who couldn'
t ever find a job, once liberated from the need to look for one.
mircea_popescu: speaking of that, asciilifeform any idea how it's possible that Submissions: 3305302 Known Moduli: 2708380 Moduli Waiting for Test: 3677 ? shouldn'
t these add up ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: lol. and even better - he wanted to buy it, to show how easy it is. then it wasn'
t easy. but instead of publishing a piece about how "i thought it was easy - turns out it's not", he has a ...
BingoBoingo: Apparently they couldn'
t agree on which reserved words take precedence in the order of operations
mircea_popescu: i don'
t get it. gun shop refused selling to alcoholic wifebeater, he identifies as "journalist" and butthurts all over ?
mircea_popescu: just because the comment-out is communicated in-band rather than explicitly given as // or whatever doesn'
t mean it's strongly typed.
BingoBoingo: Because you can quarentine nonsense as isolated strings and lol about them. If you can'
t do that they'd eventually start making you stupid.
BingoBoingo: Like any other string that doesn'
t parse to meaningful code.
mircea_popescu: and for anyone who deludes himself into fucking thinking that "women voting" and "divorce" is "what made '''america''' ungreat again", seriously, come to fucking argentina. they're just as dickless as you are and women here don'
t get to divorce anyone.
BingoBoingo: Well why aren'
t they helping the divorcees pick out flowers and paint colors?
felipelalli: are you waking up or haven'
t you sleep yet? lol
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: what time is it in Argentina?? It's late, isn'
t? Here is 5 AM.
felipelalli: fun fact: *no one* really knew what was wrote in that "smart contract". No fucking single person, even who wrote that. They just put the money in a tied "kind-of-immutable" contract that they simply couldn'
t read.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: haven'
t heard but from looking and inferring you meant it's shit, i respond that it's still funny to me!
mircea_popescu: i don'
t think anyone actually understands stupid people
mircea_popescu: this "in the X" windows user concept always baffled me. nigga, these are pieces of paper, they don'
t have anyting IN them.
phf: i guess the two are in lockstep. you get pdf in your email, you save it to file, you open it with xpdf. a dwim equivalent is to open it, dwiw style, right in the mail client. can'
t do that with xpdf (actually you can but need to read specs for x11, yawn), so make xpdf into a library, embed the whole thing into client.
thestringpuller: In Ether Huffing news >> "People need to understand this. Your individual ideological beliefs on blockchain tech need to take a backseat to pragmatism. If we don'
t reverse all of this, cleanly and quickly, the government will step in and complicate all of our lives indefinitely." "Oh, and for the non-ETH holders coming here for the drama - this will affect your coin too. If you think that the SEC will make a distinction between BTC or
mircea_popescu: both to the helicopter mom that importantly recommends you "be careful" (bitch - be careful IS ALWAUYS TRANSITIVE. if you don'
t specify the object i'ma slap you)
mircea_popescu: i am familiar with "a dime", which simply means "perfect", which doesn'
t denote anything but thjat's ok.
hanbot: mircea_popescu they prolly shaved their best pencils for that coffee. lapices ain'
t cheap!
mircea_popescu: dude gtfo. these kids couldn'
t thread a wire if it saved them from bilateral amputation.
Framedragger: "It also downloads firmware updates over
http and doesn'
t appear to check signatures on them, so there's the potential for MITM attacks on the plug itself. The remote control server is on AWS unless your timezone is GMT+8, in which case it's in China."
mircea_popescu: prior to this encounter i couldn'
t even conceive of this notion.
ascii_deadfiber: supposing that they 1) bought the coin 2) can'
t simply steal it back -- i can see it
ascii_deadfiber: mircea_popescu thinks that he is veteran zoophile but his 'cows' ain'
t fat.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 12:04 ascii_deadfiber: and it isn'
t as if usg BUYS btc anyway
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 12:02 thestringpuller: ascii_deadfiber: would pop when we own them << that is true. one of us would also be addicted to some techno drug. don'
t that have "intellect enhancer" in neuromancer too?
ben_vulpes: really aren'
t "not white" streets here
mircea_popescu: diana_coman that's good in case your high heels aren'
t even.
mircea_popescu: well, this is the true problem of political decay : society decays too, and in this precise manner. what used to be an ideologically-mediated disconnect between action and representation ("if you see a fire don'
t jump into it, call the FD, it's better that way) becomes a fully separated disconnect, mediated by nothing.
ascii_deadfiber: iirc maryland state road law doesn'
t even require it, other than on federal highway
ascii_deadfiber: mircea_popescu would be delighted to learn that americans (at least around here) also aren'
t especially fond of signalling turns.
mircea_popescu: they can'
t even signal turns. NOT for any other reason than THIS. they have no relation between action and representation whatsoever.
ascii_deadfiber: they had selection of N idiots to vote for, doesn'
t mean they want to read their spew ?
mircea_popescu: there's obviously no stable solution for this problem, inasmuch as it's the nonsensical issues of a bunch of parochical derps. nevertheless, i wouldn'
t properly call it "corewars" either, there's no core involved. periphery wars ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber isn'
t teh butthurt lulzy to watch tho ?
ascii_deadfiber: the one thing i don'
t quite get is why drain it to 1 or 2 addrs