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pete_dushenski: they'd sooner break down in tears and call for their mommy/police than dig ditch
mircea_popescu: seems to me they work at producing poorly strung together sentences by the boatload.
pete_dushenski: right, also not reddit, who couldn't be made to work with a pitchfork poking them in the ass
mircea_popescu: this is how this goes.
mircea_popescu: (ie, working the street)
mircea_popescu: well, lohn was for the derpy chicks that weren't willing to be ACTUALLY working, also.
pete_dushenski: as long as they're not actually working, yes
mircea_popescu: granted, they obey stupid people saying stupid things, but ...
mircea_popescu: they're the most obedient people alive.
pete_dushenski: except for the 'obedient' element, which reddit utterly lacks
mircea_popescu: one more tweak and you'd be ceo of your own company on reddit.
mircea_popescu: there's really no good way to describe it outside of "here are stupid people in a historical valley". i it's a mix of factoring, leasing and outsourcing supply provisioning + financing in one package.
phf: gibson in his latest novel has something similar happen to 3d printers, i.e. suburban shops that get 3d printers on credit, manufacture replacement parts on demand from stl or verbal description
mircea_popescu: this is basically the fundamental deal of "we have unskilled, obedient derps here and nothing else. what now ?"
mircea_popescu: no, the franchisee bears most of the risk.
kakobrekla: hm, 'lon' here means 'payment', old, obscure word not in use much in that sense
mircea_popescu: ie, "Here is this samovar, here are the bundles, make me the product"
mircea_popescu: anyway, the gist of it is that "manufacturer" gets tooling on credit, materials sourced by and fixed sale contracts to the same party.
phf: is that german word?
mircea_popescu: something very similar is widely used in eulora, too.
mircea_popescu: it's a delivery/production agreement in light industry, mostly textiles
mircea_popescu: the truth of this point can be appreciated by the incredible expansion of lohn in the 90s in eeu. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i suspect germany (all opf the machines had to be german!!1) made marginally more money selling the gear than the women in question saved, had exports been allowed.
mircea_popescu: the practice however, was that about one in ten women were worth the cutting cloth.
mircea_popescu: phf yes, that was the theory.
asciilifeform: more elementarily, to fix torn things faster/with less sweat
mircea_popescu: ex "mechanical engineer", reminds me a lot of the rather famous zarone, g g dej's driver, then minister.
phf: i think in su the purpose of sewing machine was to pirate french pret-a-porter that would not be otherwise accessible in stores. could buy sewing pattern magazines, i.e. Burda. aunt made some side money in the 70s making garments "like them french girls"
asciilifeform: but the classical india featherbedding - this, yes!
mircea_popescu: "oh , but india just happens to have a culture that promotes abject replication."
asciilifeform: but overall flavour is the same.
asciilifeform: now this, yes
mircea_popescu: very different. they were georgians not fucking eskimo.
asciilifeform: really not so different from that other nomenklatura.
asciilifeform unfortunately knows very well what they look like.
mircea_popescu: it's not JUST bharara. there's an entire generation of this scum barnacling the place.
mircea_popescu: http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/faculty/finance/faculty/chowdhry << in case you're wondering what the vermin usg has created looks like. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: obviously i have no relation to either the woman or her line of work, and she could just as well do it on her own, but i'm aspiring to be as cool as Chowcoolie Whatsiname one day.
pete_dushenski: please to post btc address for peaceful winnings
mircea_popescu: that should the nobel committee decide to give stoya the peace prize i am prepared to accept it on her behalf
mircea_popescu: in other news, i would like to announce
danielpbarron: they should better trade for shiny rock and eulorian coppers
asciilifeform: and other threadz re: same.
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 14:33:45; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu brings up interesting point. entirely possible that north kr will binge to death on reddit, like the red skinned man did on liquor, when the time comes
pete_dushenski: https://www.nknews.org/2015/11/conversations-with-north-koreans/ << “This so-called South Korea thing,” he sneered, “it’s just America.” “You say isolated. We say self-reliant. That’s our ideology. That’s how we weather economic crises caused by America,” << damn. spot on !
mircea_popescu: it is a craft tho, the expectation you spend the 1500 dm and wife can now make clothes is out of place. ☟︎
asciilifeform was about to ask 'who the fuck cancelled this' but then remembered chinese pseudoclothes
mircea_popescu: maybe 10% of them did anything useful with it.
mircea_popescu: in this line, there was a time in central/eastern yurp when married woman HAD to have sewing machine. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: they make about as much bread as they make guns.
phf: mircea_popescu: the second. i think you dump ingredients, bread comes out, but enough manual steps that people still manage to not use it. maybe cleaning is the time consuming part..
mircea_popescu: i suppose the enduring popularity these chunks of nonsense enjoyed should make no one surprised at the 3d printer mania.
danielpbarron: i don't even use that; I kneed by hand
phf: danielpbarron: yeah, girl bakes bread in oven on the regular, i just stick to poor engineer's substitute for day to day-- chapatis
mircea_popescu: or you mean the actual "hey epson now makes bread" assembly line in your kitchen thing
mircea_popescu: is this a dough hook on a motor ?
danielpbarron: i don't use that stupid machine either
mircea_popescu: well you'd have to be, it's the main requisite for being a sourdough miner!
danielpbarron is pretty good at making bread the old fashioned way
mircea_popescu: so now they're... doing things.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's not even that, it's more along the lines of "social media derps don't matter", which irks them.
pete_dushenski: we had breadmaker growing up. actually used it too.
phf: actually in u.s. breadmakers is one of those appliances, that people buy and then never use. i know because every time bread comes up in conversation, an owner will point out that they have one. somehow they still buy cardboard bread at store, and only break out breadmaker on special occasions, if ever.
mircea_popescu: heh. the march of science eh.
asciilifeform: '1-Methylcyclopropene (1-MCP) is a gaseous molecule that blocks the sites of ethylene binding and action in fruit. Marketed under the commercial name ‘SmartFreshTM’, it is increasingly used across a wide variety of stored products where the inhibition of ethylene effects is desired.'
mircea_popescu: incidentally, is ripening gas still ethylene or did they find some way to use radiocesium or some shit for the purpose ?
phf: tv diners, canned vegetables, bag of crisps, and when feeling fancy (or don't want to deal with cooking for the kids) it's time for a mcdonalds trip!
mircea_popescu: "what is this ?" "vegetables and rice" "no it isn't. where you got these ?" "oh, they come in very convenient bags, frozen" "are you fucking crazy ?!" ☟︎
asciilifeform: possibly from the use of ripening gas
mircea_popescu: you name it. even the fucking bananas have an actual flavour, as opposed to the styrofoam at walmart.
mircea_popescu: nothing in the us produce section can compete with the real thing.
pete_dushenski: 'merican pistachios were a nixon thing, neh ?
phf: because can't compete with the real thing
phf: i've learned recently that one of the larger usian pro-embargo lobbies are pistachio manufacturers
mircea_popescu: i know, that's where i get mine
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 20:46:17; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell danielpbarron mind dropping https://twitter.com/sam_kriss a link to the latest contravex, seeing as how he quite so eloquently inspired the thing
danielpbarron: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2015#1324168 << https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/665678941991133184 ☝︎
asciilifeform let the whole thing be, if anyone recalls
mircea_popescu: so then let it be, once it's used more we'll understand better what;s needed with it in practice.
asciilifeform: but as a thing that could exist independently.
mircea_popescu: it's antidesign to bolt it on.
mircea_popescu: not like someone can't do this privately.
asciilifeform: wanted to import blockchain time rather than nato time, but sure.
mircea_popescu: i couldn't give less of a shit what they do. if tomorrow california falls in the ocean i won't notice, nor care.
mircea_popescu: stop trying to import usg into bitcoin through the negative.
asciilifeform: then can forget time.
asciilifeform: where somebody gets trapped in a bubble and told 'the state of the art is this thing here and guess what they never got $longagosolveditem to work, therealbitcoin suxx!!1111'
asciilifeform: it is a thing in one and only one case
mircea_popescu: because time isn't a thing.
mircea_popescu: patches reference antecedents. there is no notion of time.
mircea_popescu: multiple times.
asciilifeform: did we do this one ?
mircea_popescu: is this a recurring topic that never gets proper reference to past discussion ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what the fuck ?
asciilifeform: but enemy will attempt to leverage any serious uncertainty in 1 or 2
asciilifeform: neither is required to build ~a~ press, no
mod6: anyway, i think the real thing I was getting at there as sort of an alternative host incase of necessary reboot or maint to the other host.
asciilifeform: there is only one way to reliably broadcast 1) when a particular patch came to exist 2) what the present state of the art may be.
mod6: time doesn't matter, its the precedence. right?
asciilifeform: there is no other way to nail down chronology.