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pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340387 << how jaded must i be that i didn't even bat an eyelash at this death warrant. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 03:44:18; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-12-2015#1339102 << listen when you can speak cogently about "the bayesian method" and articulate how "millions upon millions" [of lines of code] betrays your complete lack of understanding on the topic of control systems we can revisit this
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340815 << let's say we revisit this when your we've both eschewed meat-chauffeurs for robo-chauffeurs. deal ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 00:51:10; mircea_popescu: one of my more absconse private jokes to date!
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1340725 << too subtle for this crowd :P ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 00:38:27; mircea_popescu: that exahash bet is interesting huh.
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pete_dushenski: more intelligent to boot, and yet both of whom left in pretty fiery blazes, compared to btcdrak and heysteve who were both relatively quiet and relatively useless and whose lack of presence won't even be a blip on the radar.
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 22:01:45; shinohai: First time I had seen that happen, but I've only been here since June.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340654 << you missed pankkake (http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/04/lets-cut-to-the-chase-is-la-serenissima-a-cult/) and thickasthieves (http://trilema.com/2014/waroflife-swol-october-2014-statement-closing/#comment-109550), both of whom were far more active in b-a, whose lack of presence was actually noticeable (at least in daily log lines) and were each seemingly ☝︎
pete_dushenski: ya, those pie charts are pretty useless, tis true.
BingoBoingo: This doesn't take wisdom. This only requires accidentaling and remembering all the way back to the ancient history of this July.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: that's giving the usg a lot of credit on the 'wisdom' front, certainly more than they've warranted thus far.
pete_dushenski: 'antpool' has gone from 15% to 26%, f2pool from 21% to 24%, btcchina from 12% to 14%, bitfury from 14% to 11%
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Consider though the wisdom of USG miner propping up foreign pools that through serendipity introduce instability to the network
assbot: BitFury and private property in the land of the free. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q62065 )
pete_dushenski: compare above chart with this one from 5 months ago : http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/26/bitfury-and-private-property-in-the-land-of-the-free/#footnote_1_4145
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: WHy wouldn't they?
ben_vulpes: "I will personally come out to SF and make this all public and have a showdown" << aha do what now i'm sorry i ohohohahaha ☟︎
ben_vulpes: mominlol has a great story about having to be the big bad landlady so that the social workers could maintain the trust of her evictee
BingoBoingo: From the mines: "Just once I want to get sent to deal with a pronoid schizophrenic. The guy who's convinced that everyone is out to help him. He believes the FBI is watching him with the intent of making him their new Director. Aliens are invading Earth so they can give him the secret to eternal life. He wears a tinfoil hat to absorb the rays being beamed at him by the CIA that make him smarter and happier."
ben_vulpes: it's not great but hey you're working in the browser
ben_vulpes: that said, clojure's a good example of how even a shitty lisp is strong enough to wrap its tentacles around more or less the whole webshitstack and deliver a single cognitive environment for writing 'software' that stretches from the server to the browser
ben_vulpes would unlearn anything to be free of the shitstack
ben_vulpes: > one homogenous thing << in the same way that the cl compiler's available to user code? or some level higher?
asciilifeform: and yes, there is a lengthy unlearning required to grasp this.
asciilifeform: sane language is not a set of 'meat' with annotations re: compiler hints, but one homogeneous thing.
ben_vulpes: (and yes i understand why you don't want to talk to anyone polluted by vn about this thing)
ben_vulpes: this is probably horrendously wrong, but i currently imagine some 'main' program entrypoint with subsections that indicate their parallelizability. is this entirely wrong or correctably wrong?
ben_vulpes: so there must be constraints on the programmering style in order for an arbitrary program to be arbitrarily parallelizable
ben_vulpes: so i take the little proggy i've written--would i need to do anything special to it in order to take advantage of more m^2 of compute fabric?
ben_vulpes: okay asciilifeform another strike at the fortress of incomprehensibility then
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell Naphex yes yes but what about all of the much more difficult questions re statements and income and equity and depreciation and whatnot
ben_vulpes: so they'd have to be "pure" (to borrow a fp-ism) in order to serve the arbitrary parallelism definition?
asciilifeform: sorta how you can flush your own toilet, and the outcome does not depend on the result of me flushing mine ☟︎
ben_vulpes: okay, do function definitions make sense in this paradigm?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hey boss, i keep meaning to ask you about the details of dataflow programming (vis a vis turning ascii files into computation), but i'm having trouble booking the like 3 hours of sit-down time it'd take to respond in a timely fashion
gribble: ZSFA -- Rails Is A Ghetto (2007-12-31) - cat -v harmful stuff - Cat-v.org: <http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/ruby/rails/is-a-ghetto>; Where can I find Zed Shaw's original "Rails Is A Ghetto" essay ...: <https://www.quora.com/Where-can-I-find-Zed-Shaws-original-Rails-Is-A-Ghetto-essay>; Zed Shaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zed_Shaw>
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you never read the shaw lolz?
assbot: Logged on 08-12-2015 21:49:32; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes this comment was at least half-ways pointed in your general direction http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/07/desperately-trying-to-put-the-auto-back-into-automobile-in-a-flaccid-attempt-to-put-the-relevance-back-into-motoring/#comment-37004
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-12-2015#1339102 << listen when you can speak cogently about "the bayesian method" and articulate how "millions upon millions" [of lines of code] betrays your complete lack of understanding on the topic of control systems we can revisit this ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: not today
ben_vulpes: did midnightmagic ever show up to disavow mircea_popescu?
ben_vulpes: that part's supposed to be entertaining
asciilifeform: wai wut, it's a week-by-week turnover?
ben_vulpes: this week i'm actually preferring to hire "jr" people with broad programming experience (and varied backgrounds) for pressing into the ipnohe and andorp squads, theory being that broad experience with other humans and technologies trumps cheap labor and misguided enthusiasm
asciilifeform: howz life in the ipnohe brigades.
asciilifeform: l0l, the andreas a. crud take 2x.
mod6: it'll just need some very deep examination and testing one way or another.
mod6: true. this is a good point.
mircea_popescu: so they're earning us slack. not that it HAS to be used, obv.
mircea_popescu: pre hearn&fail-bip, the standard was pretty high. by now it's a lot easier to argue "hey, at least it's not as bad as THAT dumb shit"
mircea_popescu: so in a sense they're actually working for us, unintentionally, in their idiocy.
mircea_popescu: the more inclined to break the protocol the power rangers become, the less important it is to actually maintain all the warts.
danielpbarron: i'm a little surprised i didn't get suspended as well, for retwatting the offending .. uh..
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what they imagine they're doing, but more power to them and their clown car.
mircea_popescu: and they were all spambots.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so this entire MONTH trilema got exactly 3 clicks from twitter.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> aaaaand the trilema twatter account is suspended <<< now i gotta go in the logs, see what all that does.
mircea_popescu: then they DIDN'T want to go in pro-rata on the new round.
assbot: Capitalism si naivitate. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mdPa95 )
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ze commentz << honestly... a bunch of derps burned 2mn and want "to recoup their investment" aka http://trilema.com/2009/capitalism-si-naivitate/#selection-85.81-85.106
mod6: yeah getting rid of openssl is going to be, an adventure. not only does the crypto need to be implemented, a perfect backward compatibility needs to be maintained.
asciilifeform: imho if the thing at the core is still the ridiculous cpp turd (complete with openssl, bdb) then the effort is wasted.
mod6: im of the persuasion that bitcoin should get it's own OS, eventually, when it can be built.
mod6: im with you there.
asciilifeform: the thing is, imho classical bitcoind is a rickety life support affair regardless of how we cut it.
asciilifeform: throwing out the userland entirely will simplify the build considerably.
mod6: in the short term, is there a way to maybe do this better that I'm missing?
mod6: many wheels to reinvent.
mod6: it's a tough pill to swallow to sign & rely on such garbage
mod6: i do see what you're saying in a sense I think.
mod6: i have one more bridge to cross yet, and I havent gotten that far yet; having a script of my own somehow check the sigs & hashes after the file xfrs are complete.
asciilifeform: that isn't the issue.
mod6: i think it'll work though. my rotor+v054 script would run this script after extracting the buildroot package
mod6: im not sure this is the best way to handle this
asciilifeform: but can't escape the feeling that the dependency orchestra is too broad for a buildroot linux to be meaningfully v-tight
mod6: so what I'm hoping to accomplish here is to alter the .mk files that accompany buildroot, so they pull the 3rd party reqs directly from the foundation site instead of wherever they currently point to. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i think i see the point here
mod6: (this by no means is finished, but interested to see what you think about the direction i'm taking)
mod6: anyway, yeah, I'm looking forward to getting the website cleaned up and putting V up there with vpatches.
asciilifeform: wasn't that last year ?
danielpbarron: aaaaand the trilema twatter account is suspended
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 06:49:28; assbot: Satoshi's PGP Keys Are Probably Backdated and Point to a Hoax | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGiEGw )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2015#1340144 << lulzy. the sheer cheapness of the sham... ☝︎
asciilifeform: dvantage they can get. Taking advantage of loopholes in laws, instead of doing what's right. Hiring people from your own network, instead of going beyond its narrow reach. And now, recapping a round, instead of honoring prior investments. That's the culture. And you *really* feel it in SF. You'd easily walk into a coffee shop there, and overhear this story about recapping a round being told with laughs and high-fives.' << from
asciilifeform: 'That's when you see the toxicity of the overall startup culture is the root of the problem that lead to your investment situation, diversity issues, contract worker issues, etc. A culture that values above all else -- as one investor put it to me -- the unfair advantage. The thing you do / have / are that gives you a 10x leg up on everyone else. And that just makes people look for the fastest, easiest way to the most unfair a
mod6: Thanks for the reminder though.
mod6: <ascii_field> trb www still shows non-v patches ?! << ok so no, not yet. after ben and I sign everything for the release, we'll be updating the website.
mircea_popescu: http://gothamgal.com/2015/07/recapping-a-round/ << a little more about yc and its miserable approach to investing.
mircea_popescu: one of my more absconse private jokes to date! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "CountOneInterrupt 2 points 1 hour ago Gotta love that classy web design with a butt next to the name. It's our sister site!" << check it out! someone fucking got it!
mircea_popescu: "edmundedgar 6 points 1 hour ago Why weren't people like this around when they were designing CSS?" << also, buttcoin is about 50 iq points over bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: <shinohai> top kek, mircea_popescu made buttcoin << eh, they've got a fascination with me ever since back when the subreddit was called somethingafwul
asciilifeform pictures an obamahruschov banging shoe and declaiming that miners 'are rolling off our conveyors like sausages!1111 we will bury you'
mircea_popescu: <cazalla_> yeah that guy, i actually bought a hard copy of the book though, been working on in it 1-2 hours each evening, trying to make a Legend of the Red Dragon mud type game meets bitcoin <<< ahahaha check out the guy that took a year off from btc biz :D
asciilifeform: what could possibly be more surprising than the most easily-predictable thing conceivable finally happening.
mircea_popescu: or maybe someone really has it in for mpoe-pr, wants her to lose all bets.
mircea_popescu: seriously looks like 200+ phash added this week.
xss: just browsing the good ol' freenode