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asciilifeform: m and m blew the usg minds for the simple reason that, as far as anybody could tell, they weren't bribed
asciilifeform: (tldr: the brass, in at least as far as the Official Truth doc releases reveal, were obsessed with whether m & m were buggering one another and spent millions investigating this)
asciilifeform: 'Martin is said to have criticized American women and marital laws. Martin and Mitchell have both been described as socially awkward and Mitchell has been described as unsophisticated and naive about the practical world.' (p.60) ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351584 << to mutilate the old saying, 'things oughta be as easy to use as possible, but not easier' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:31:41; mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/068FQ43.txt << seriously, these derps classified as secret/foia extempt some derp-ass $50-a-pop market research crapolade that's ~maybe~ one step above a wikipedia cull ?
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 09:00:51; mircea_popescu: repair the damage). That seems bad enough, but we aren't quite there yet." <<< this much is exactly factual, as romania is well aware since its very difficult early 90s. as far as temperate habitation is concerned, you have strictly to options : either produce enough energy to keep the heating pipes unfrozen through the winter, or else lose the possibility of urban settlement and as a result return
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351639 << it'll happen with usg diesel dispensed on usurious credit - as in bulgaria ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 08:27:45; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell linton_s_dawson http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351345 << not anyone afaik. theoretically speaking it wouldn't likely work too well yet - not enough resources on the pi to be a real node. nevertheless, as a didactic / research sort of project rather than something to go in production trying would be interesting, if for nothing else then because nobody;s tried it yet.
BingoBoingo: But they'll prolly unveil it as gender.me
mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/068FQ43.txt << seriously, these derps classified as secret/foia extempt some derp-ass $50-a-pop market research crapolade that's ~maybe~ one step above a wikipedia cull ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: repair the damage). That seems bad enough, but we aren't quite there yet." <<< this much is exactly factual, as romania is well aware since its very difficult early 90s. as far as temperate habitation is concerned, you have strictly to options : either produce enough energy to keep the heating pipes unfrozen through the winter, or else lose the possibility of urban settlement and as a result return to 1800ish (the wor ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell linton_s_dawson http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-12-2015#1351345 << not anyone afaik. theoretically speaking it wouldn't likely work too well yet - not enough resources on the pi to be a real node. nevertheless, as a didactic / research sort of project rather than something to go in production trying would be interesting, if for nothing else then because nobody;s tried it yet. ☝︎☟︎
funkenstein_: Speaking of potatoes: Tensions rise in Europe when the Russian government announces that it is launching a new business start-up called Tuber, described as “like Uber, except with tanks.”
asciilifeform: https://theintercept.com/2015/12/23/juniper-firewalls-successfully-targeted-by-nsa-and-gchq << as seen here.
thestringpuller: because I was fell out of a grocery cart onto my head as a child I keep getting this error with mod6 's script: ": No such file or directory"
ascii_field: gotta love how NORMAL senses have been redefined as 'weirdo'
jurov: it takes very pathological case, such as yellow background for it to be detectable
ascii_field: except that in the end, 'real thing' ends up costing 10x as much as previously, once the crap flood hits, and shortly - vanishes entirely
jurov: you'll be the first to complain if the treal thing costs 2-3x as much
ascii_field: but this is a classic case of 'this thing that is actually half the thing you thought you were paying for is JUST AS GOOD AND SHUDDUP'
mircea_popescu: would make sense, too, as part of a wider strategy to murder the blockchain.
mircea_popescu: it appears to me asciilifeform that the way the blackholing works is as an interdiction to communicating old blocks.
mircea_popescu: well... articles as-are.
asciilifeform: and i saved pennies as a boy and bought.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, b,tmsr~ still runs its deficits. this has exactly nothing to do with "altruism", just like it has exactly nothing to do wit hthe rest of the nonsense spewed by the decaying latrine once known as "the west".
asciilifeform: which 1) is not available as a binary package on centos (which the node i was testing on, runs)
asciilifeform: i'ma nullroute aws on all of my nodez. as soon as i can be bothered to make an exhaustive list of the ranges.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> does this all sound okie dokie then? << far as i can tell ye
mod6: "these" as in 'V'-ifiy the turds?
mod6: then the build script can move that stuff over as needed?
jurov: ^ i read it as "the tarballs"
ascii_field: 'I proceeded to disassemble a Nokia 2110 battery pack, remove the batteries, glue it to a 6-volt lead-acid gel cell battery, and clip the phone onto the resulting giant battery pack (when the battery is many times larger than the phone, you don't clip the battery onto the phone). The result, "Gorba's Return", has a standby time of more than a month.' << very spiffy, also doubles as a blunt weapon or battering ram
assbot: Motion for a resolution on controlling virtual currencies such as the ‘bitcoin’ - B8-1366/2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1V4dBBu )
mod6: so the manifest should live in build directory as we were talking about?
jurov: as a gentooista, i'm fine with distfiles
trinque: it's not as though I'm debugging c++ at the moment.
trinque: script as is works very well; I'm just offering some janitorial services.
mircea_popescu: so about as useless as piss.
mod6: the interesting part about dropping in a manifest file is that i'll be off on its own as its own root and its own leaf since it'll have no decendents or antecedants.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> my personal ideal would be that ALL directories involved in this without exception are spawned as subdirs of whatever current dir the script ran in. << this makes sense. right now you end up with /.../rotor/ and ~/.wot, and ~/.seals iirc.
mircea_popescu: my personal ideal would be that ALL directories involved in this without exception are spawned as subdirs of whatever current dir the script ran in.
ascii_field: (afaik it actually gets optimized out by gcc, even, as dead code)
mircea_popescu: if you recall the ever-so useful "quantum computer" that was going to do things just as long as you ... you know, let the specialists do it.
mircea_popescu both turned off error logging altogether as well as specified they should be saved in /dev/null
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 13:43:50; BingoBoingo: Soviets just got sloppy when the latched onto schizophrenia as psychiatric umbrella. West has been riding this bipolar/"mood spectrum disorder" grinder for a while now.
mircea_popescu: so then you throw the switch and watch in amazement as... nothing happens.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental argentinian-ness of the human mind, "oh, ok, this is what i get paid, now how could i move down what i gottaq do for it ?" really needs the british imperial "fuck you, you don't eat" as typified by lord newton. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350294 << i've used it 5x so far. once it was a fraud (see logz) and got refund. the other 4, it was dour iranian drivers every bit as good as a 'normal' cabbie. which brings us to the very real 'fat' that there was to be trimmed from cab fare in usa: amortized cost of medallion passed to the customer, and other idiocies that uber nuked ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Soviets just got sloppy when the latched onto schizophrenia as psychiatric umbrella. West has been riding this bipolar/"mood spectrum disorder" grinder for a while now. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: If only because all the other tranquilizers like miltown and thalidomide are so much easier to pile on to. "Miltown, what kind of drug has bezoars as a side effect?"
mircea_popescu: that's just fucking dumb. privilege is being thin, as a male.
punkman: "The patriarchy expects me to be a big burly man to soak up all the privilege I can. However, I find that the thinner you are as a male, the more willing people are to interact with you because you are not so threatening. As I get thinner, the patriarchy has a harder time keeping a hold on me because I can slip through its fingers more easily."
punkman: "Not to be "that guy", but as cool as it is to ponder doing this in some bright, shiny language like Rust or ML, Ada exists for a reason.  There's even an open source compiler (Gnat) that can already generate code that can link with C/C++/etc code bases.  Work would need to go into streamlining the run time overhead for this use case, but how much compared to maintaining some C compiler
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 05:29:33; asciilifeform: (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly)
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 22:35:40; *: mircea_popescu digs as well
asciilifeform: (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, for pete_d and anyone else who might have encountered difficulty with trb or fears they might : it's actually rather painless. 1. you create an account on a server ; 2. you cd /home/account_name ; 3. you create a .wot directory (mkdir .wot) ; 4. you put the pubkeys of people you trust in there as name1.asc, name2.asc etc ; 5. you download the rotor script (curl deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-99997K.sh > build-bitco ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, signs off as 5.4
asciilifeform: or it will croak as pictured above
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> as it is i put .wot in /trb/.wot but the .seals are still up one level ;/ << noted.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 as a purely aesthetic point, i hate that your v puts its files/dirs straight under ~. it would be much better if it made them under current dir. << alright
mod6: but until we wrap up the final parts as discussed yesterday, i wont clutter up the ml
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 had a set of instructions up for cooking rotor ab initio, but it apparently wasn't in the ml << no. it "works" as far as I and others have tried it -- it relies upon haveing my, alf's, mp's, ben's, and trinque's keys in a ~/.wot dir iirc.
trinque: the first output is it verifying signatures of various curl downloads, as I see it running it again.
mircea_popescu: as it is i put .wot in /trb/.wot but the .seals are still up one level ;/
mircea_popescu: mod6 as a purely aesthetic point, i hate that your v puts its files/dirs straight under ~. it would be much better if it made them under current dir.
mircea_popescu: no "as before" ; no "mine", none of the bs.
mircea_popescu: oddly the script i'm using as a guide to hack this together uses boost="http://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost" curl -L "$boost/1.52.0/boost_1_52_0.tar.gz" \ for some reason, unlike in the other two cases.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "6) in it, set up a stator dir, e.g., /home/luser/rotor/stator and fill distfiles with tarballs, etc. as before." << what the fuck do you think this means ?
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:21:34; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but your controlling point about whose dominion is a thing is well taken. the boundaries here are very loosely defined, and yet so broad that i'm bound to miss important things, but mostly as these important things relate to trb development, an area where my only experience was debian testing and v-verification this summer
asciilifeform: every bit as virulent and pestilential
asciilifeform: as it builds gcc, toolchain, et al
mircea_popescu digs as well ☟︎
asciilifeform: as discussed about a day ago
mircea_popescu: obviously just dumping it in as a node isn't right, but we gotta have it somehow
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:09:59; pete_dushenski: e. also, that glibc is advertised as an 'essential' component of unix osen, but that it's very much something of a flying spaghetti monster
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: afaik he is the (in so far as is publicly known) ~the~ wrecker
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 20:59:48; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349421 << i've never understood this rather commonplace criticism of taleb as being anything other than "ow my fee-fees hurt. that's not nice and it's certainly not how we do things in usistan where being successful and coming from somewhere other than the sewers is bad because reasons mkay"
asciilifeform: jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349578 << this is not as simple as it sounds, there are machine and os braindamages baked in ☝︎
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but your controlling point about whose dominion is a thing is well taken. the boundaries here are very loosely defined, and yet so broad that i'm bound to miss important things, but mostly as these important things relate to trb development, an area where my only experience was debian testing and v-verification this summer ☟︎
pete_dushenski: e. also, that glibc is advertised as an 'essential' component of unix osen, but that it's very much something of a flying spaghetti monster ☟︎
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: "with the caveat that as the reunion of Ys starts approaching the universe, you're getting closer and closer to the nagant ending." << can you expand on this point ? is it that being overwhelmed on account of previous complacency and previous failures to eat the elephant one bite at a time, as those bites appeared, can only lead to suicide ?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349421 << i've never understood this rather commonplace criticism of taleb as being anything other than "ow my fee-fees hurt. that's not nice and it's certainly not how we do things in usistan where being successful and coming from somewhere other than the sewers is bad because reasons mkay" ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 16:10:22; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/ << older backuped version back online. feel free to log in as per normal, update it, etc. everything should still work as b4, if not lemme know.
jurov: As a boring platform for the portable parts of boring crypto software, I'd like to see a free C compiler that clearly defines, and permanently
mircea_popescu: medicine has ~0 to do with all this (as does democracy).
mircea_popescu: (organised here is used as a psych term of art - same way "organised delusion" works)
mircea_popescu: it may be rare or common in your environment, but the church sure as hell doesn't dare try and impose a tax, but instead fell back on the b-a taxation model.
jurov: as i hardly know any such person, i suspect hard atheism is actually very rare thing.
mircea_popescu: a middle aged woman in queens going "when you die you die. that's it. you don't go anywhere." as overheard in "the conversion" seinfeld episode.
jurov: asciilifeform: isn't it same thing as "disruptive innovation" before derps ran off with the term?
asciilifeform does not endorse the crackpottery as written, but the concept is not useless
asciilifeform: 'A 'closing technology' - is a category of innovation, where as a result of its advent the need for a resource (including human resource) shrinks. A closing technology leads to the disappearance of an entire profession or branch of industry without creating a similarly resource-intensive profession or industry in its place. If one is speaking only of a replacement of a technology with a new one (or of a field, or market niche)
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 00:27:34; mircea_popescu: nobody cares to look at the root causes. "hey derps ? you're being as inefficient as humanly possible" "well of course, any other course would be an economic disaster" "your idea of economy is like a rat's idea of hygiene : the more sewers the better" "so ?"
mircea_popescu: is composed of one inch squares repeating ad infinitum (edison, gates, the us generally) or is actually a pattern as large as the wall itself (ie, cultivated)
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as the drivel of a cultivated man.
asciilifeform: (and if not, why not. as a deservedly obscure crackpot i give a fuck, perhaps nobody else does)
mircea_popescu: so it registers in my head as a merely not very good attempt at that.
asciilifeform: reels it out as necessary
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/ << older backuped version back online. feel free to log in as per normal, update it, etc. everything should still work as b4, if not lemme know. ☟︎