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mircea_popescu: the chances of
the reverse being possible decrease with every "everyone" and every "reasonable" and every "users came
to expect" and so on.
mircea_popescu: trb
transactions will necessarily, always and everywhere be
translatable
to whatever shit-flavour-of-the-day "everyone" is using because "no reasonable objections".
mircea_popescu: little conception of how
the actual bitcoin people see
things.
mircea_popescu: but hey,
they're fiat-based leeches and
think in
terms of "can i sell
this bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: fuck you, go
talk
to whoever you wanna
talk
to about it. unless it shows up in MY chain, it never happened.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, YOU being forked off
the real bitcoin can happen quite easily, and is incurable. so you
think "you sent bitcoin" ? i don't see it.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
to round off
that luke-jr inanity from before : you can't "fork off"
the real bitcoin. yeah, you can maybe make it appear (to yourself)
that you have a coupla confirms. it costs you more
than you have anyway, and nobody looks at hte shit you look at, so it's mostly an exercise in masturbation. expensive, but ultimately pointless.
mircea_popescu: but
they're kids, with
the life experience, intellectual/emotional maturity and general bandwidth of
the average pubescent afghan. so...
takes a little longer.
mircea_popescu: yes, a sane power ranger would have quit back in 2013, when mpoe-pr published
that post on
tardstalk.
mircea_popescu: as far as
the faux developers are concerned, it's rather obvious
that even people with just a little ego will nevertheless necesitate
the psychological maneuver of working
themselves out of it
through "projects" rather
than just stopping.
mircea_popescu: as far as
the faux users were concerned,
this was stated as obvious in 2012.
mircea_popescu: point remains : as far as bitcoin is concerned,
the
thing is as irrelevant as
the messages blockchain.info keeps "tagging"
transactions with.
the people who have no business in bitcoin but for whatever emotional/psychogenic reasons are misrepresented or misrepresenting
themselves as involved WILL necessarily find a way out.
there's just no way
to stay attached if you;'re not attached.
punkman: the basic idea of segwit is not bad, should have been
there from
the start, without
the "softfork" complexity, no ANYONECANPAY-looking crap, without making another merkle
tree, without blocksize discounts and enlargements, without planning
to use it as a vehicle for future "painless" shitgnovation
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ever since
they came up with
the idiotic notion of a vulgate, you're stuck playing
the calvin. fuck
that.
mircea_popescu: certainly
the muppets can not be expected
to figure
things out, so...
mircea_popescu: im not aware anyone undertook
the effort
to write an equivalent of january's "here's
the list of gavin xt idiocies and
their rebuttals", 10k words over 3 articles sorta
thing.
punkman: I
think we've listed various reasoned objections here
mircea_popescu: i've had it with
this age of bullshit-reason where you gotta explain
things
to idiots with a first-paragraph-of-many-wikipedia-articles education as if everything can, or indeed should, be put in
those
terms.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: anyway, birdy on my shoulder whispers
that what's meant by "reasonable" certainly is "reasoned". yes,
there are no reasoned objections, chiefly because fuck you,
that's why.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which... we're not expecting a sec investigation, right ? because got better
things
to do, right ?
mircea_popescu: thanks
the gods above for "reasonable", especially if it can be made
to mean "the wolves agree"?
mircea_popescu: or
to marquardt's little glbse insider-trading scam back in
the day.
mircea_popescu: there were no "reasonable" objections
to pirate, either.
BingoBoingo: And Aaron encouraged
the Hebrew people
to make a new God of gold rather
than Bitcoin while Moses was on Mount Sinai verifying
the Godchain
https://archive.is/ukHT5 mod6: if it does, I may have overlooked
that somehow.
mod6: so no, it does not verify
them.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ;;later
tell mod6 does yours (or anybody else's) 'v' verify
the hashes ? << mine uses
the vpatch hashes
to build
the dep map
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "c
thinks arrays are strings, mp" "oh i see, makes sense"
mircea_popescu: why does ecc.c include string.h or should't i be asking
these sorts of questions ?
mircea_popescu: "after dropping
them off I sat in
the rental car staring at air. Crying. Feelings of fear, anger, self-righteousness and uncertainty overwhelmed me." << he has all
the patience
to consider all
the inept minutia of his gender-confused identity. he has not
the slightest fucking shred of interest or self-awareness
to go "hey, waitasecond, why do i gotta lie again ?"
mircea_popescu: had a speaking engagement in
the other end of
the country, pitching
to a huge room full of potential customers. It was an absurd experience. I was crumbling on
the inside but had
to pose confidently. " << why
the fuck ? just... why ? nobody ever asks
this. "i had
to lie". really ? why did you have
to lie ?
mircea_popescu: "My presentation was ok.
The mandatory Q&A afterwards was horrible.
The only
two people in
the room
that we hadn’t gotten prior support from were skeptical
to say
the least. As I left
the room I was shattered. And as my contact at Accelerace didn’t call me later on
that day I knew where it was going. My chairman didn’t either. Not a good sign. I left messages and
they didn’t return my calls. In
the afternoon I
punkman: BingoBoingo: perhaps a good project for students, dump all
the blocks from a
therealbitcoin node, verify sigs with python-ecdsa or other
BingoBoingo: But electrum ecsda only has
to sign
transaction, not verify
the BritneyChain
punkman: with a single signature leaks
the current private key, and with 16 signatures leaks an additional 256 bit secret (e.g. a master private key, with a failure rate of around 1:1000 for 16 signatures, ~1:1e6 for 17 signatures)." interesting
punkman: "I actually have
two implementations of example malicious signers: One produces non-deterministic signatures and leaks a 256 bit private key,
to
the holder of a specific public key and no one else, in ~33 signatures with very high probability (failure rate of 1 in 1000 for 33 signatures, around 1 in a million for 34).
The other produces a seemingly RFC 6979 like deterministic signatures and
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <punkman>
they are putting it in next version iirc << Signing
tx with since 0.10 iirc
punkman: asciilifeform: but did
they need
to have
two dozen
TVs for
testing?
ben_vulpes: 6 american regular, 6 small, 5, 5s,
the whole gamut.
mircea_popescu: proper hell punishment would be
to have
to debug
this shit.
ben_vulpes: it had yet
to be shitted up by
the rubros.
ben_vulpes: can always rip pod out
temporarily, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: there is a big user-friendly button: "run
this on my ipnohe or in
the simulat0r"
ben_vulpes: there isn't much of a separation of concerns in
the ios
toolchain.
ben_vulpes: include
this 'pod' in your ios build, get HTTP calls on project compile.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yes you see it needs
the debug symbols
transmitted
to some leprous SaaS
thing for in-the-field device debugging
mircea_popescu: but "nobody could determine
this" because "we seed with
text. AND KEY!!!!1"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the idea is
that it's not random, so you don't get
two data points, so you can't use
the particular leak
thing\
ben_vulpes: remind me
to
tell y'all about
the ios build
toolchain plugin
that makes curl calls ON COMPILE
mircea_popescu: i wish
to pick which pissing app
to use by how many
times
the alternatives call std::anything.
mircea_popescu: maybe i want
to sort
this list of packages by
TOTAL COUNT OF REFERENCES. how about
that!
mircea_popescu: hence
the massive "coding streak" and other "productivity' measures, as if coding is a sort of stationary bicycle and who knows, "maybe you wanna know" aka "your boss does"
ben_vulpes does not even look at
that bill any more, $ragetax simply not worthwhile
ben_vulpes: for only
ten dollars per user per month
ben_vulpes: "show
the non-technicals what
the nerds are doing! with color!"
ben_vulpes: because github is a
thing sillyconvalley bizwrapper around a versoncontrolatroncumhoster for people who don't actually want
to or know how
to use computers
punkman: we had a few
threads about deterministic k etc