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mircea_popescu: diana_coman lol what a mess. a) wasn't built by teutons ; b) cantemir the elder was king, not stephen omfg.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 18:55 asciilifeform: mats: and the pigfuckers certainly don't want you and i turning the wifi chip into mesh network etc.
mircea_popescu: fucking definition of "figment of your imagination" : "that shit ain't gonna last"
mircea_popescu: things that dun last WEREN'T THINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE!
mircea_popescu: looky : every time you find this imaginary space where thermodynamics doesn't apply, it's not that you've found a space where thermodynamics doesn't apply as much as you've deluded yourself in some manner to ignore some obvious wrinkle.
mircea_popescu: they misperceived the sea, much like you do, much like people who don't sail generally, as a "empty" space.
mircea_popescu: "british" doesn't exist here. albion was a failed state bought wholesale by the dutch who then used it as naval stage base.
mircea_popescu: the other way to put it is that piracy is what happens when people who don't want to think about the sea decide to think themselves cooler than their neighbours who do like to think about the sea.
mircea_popescu: they weren't pirate states in the way florence or venice were.
mircea_popescu: that is one point ; the point im making however is that they weren't pirates in the sense you're not a penis. part of what they did, of fucking course, given the geography. but they were otherwise just as much a normal country as say albania.
mircea_popescu: the sea ain't what it usead to be.
asciilifeform: wood isn't much good for dives.
mircea_popescu: funny. wood doesn't.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1505950 << most ships aren't intended to survive "winter" if your idea of "survive winter" is anything like http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VH9Oq9YArEk/TyAUen8cFaI/AAAAAAAABdU/QoPr6It9QQ4/s1600/IcebreakerYamal.jpg ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm also certain it wouldn't be worth having ; but that's a different story.
mircea_popescu: it is the strangest thing, i used to think mosquito is the sort of beast that either doesn't exist or else is abundant
mircea_popescu: looky, if i missed everything i cared for and don't currently have it'd be an endless funeral+wake over here.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/oGZR6 << in other lulz. 'Marines Will Soon Need to Know How to Shoot a Moving Target, Because That Wasn't a Thing Before.'
asciilifeform: 'what if yer system doesn't have sockets'
phf: Joshua-I: you didn't understand what i said, and i have neither interest nor time to explain myself
phf: Joshua-I: i don't know what "same api" means, in this case. ipython is an enhanced ~repl~, but the code that you write with it constantly changes, because can't just load data set into a python array. need to use numpy, etc.
asciilifeform: picture 'sorry you can't use grep, www.grep.com is down' ☟︎
asciilifeform: i mean, for water, this isn't reactor coolant
pete_dushenski: isn't symbiosis beautiful ?
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1505672 << submarine/boat can't promise this anymore. Niantic will put a poke-a-man stop near your nowhere and orcs follow. ☝︎
asciilifeform: can't say that i have. simply that 800/h is not titanically selective of customers.
asciilifeform: at any rate, don't expect usg to surrender in their war against general-purpose radio. ☟︎
mats: too many revisions, and i don't think wrt54gl was available then
mats: i don't see the tendril at work here
mats: 1 is so ridiculously vague that it doesn't mean anything to me
mats: i'm reading the document and it doesn't explicitly say anything about the firmware
asciilifeform: mats: and the pigfuckers certainly don't want you and i turning the wifi chip into mesh network etc. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: when the problem domains are simple, the solution proposed appears to work. in reality, as *tard mgmt demands more features, flexibility, reports, etc, the complexity of maintaining and extending under the frameworkreich becomes more and more costly, a thing not necessarily apparent to anyone who hasn't suffered the saga or who doesn't think in terms of complexity minimization from the get-go.
asciilifeform: but don't conflate the war machine and the survival capsule from thread.
mats: asciilifeform: I read the thread but didn't see a number, what did you arrive at?
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't drink that. not for a year.
asciilifeform: even the sub didn't CARRY fresh water, srsly
mircea_popescu: well, figure out what you eat in a year ; plus all the things you might want but won't eventually eat.
asciilifeform: if you don't live at sea.
asciilifeform: you wouldn't FIRE a 17th c. musket.
asciilifeform: it isn't 'coupla mil', it is 'coupla mil' plus 'own 100 slaves' plus 'lifetime of diesel and $1000 plumbing fittings'
asciilifeform: it isn't 'scares', but more of the british admiral's answer to 'what shall we do about uboats?' -- 'boil the ocean'
trinque: I suspect people who can't find *anyone* to tolerate of a sort of gabriel_laddelism, i.e. if I stay up for 48hrs on tab cola I can rewrite gentoo portage fastrrrr
mircea_popescu: brache was, famously, so incapable of social intercourse he couldn't leave a banquet and died of a busted bladder.
trinque: wasn't saying "for" but "how"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:54 phf: trinque: it's techno nomad, it's a thing. microship guy doesn't really try to solve same problem as orlol, it's all different people with personal interests and agendas that don't necessarily compose into a single stereotype
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:52 trinque: this guy's got a lab, what, to continue taking part in the same world he can't stand?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1505521 << generally people that do labwork "for the world" aren't worth much scientifically ; the ones that do science dun usually care what the wofld does. ☝︎
asciilifeform: but it makes generous use of everett's device. outside of a few 'sexy' cases, we don't get to hear from the dead armies.
mircea_popescu: if they do, are solvable in practice. if they don't, you're advised to fix your head.
mircea_popescu: anyway. problems, like f(x)=some polynomial, either have or don't have real roots.
asciilifeform: it doesn't solve the problem !
asciilifeform: money is involved in any case: boat isn't free
asciilifeform: shouldn't a scammer have some money on occasion ?
mircea_popescu: i don't think trying to formulate it is madness ; i do think that the orlov formulation is ridiculous at best.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if it is or if it isn't is your choice to make ; but don't go around showing me your holy amulets that prevent leg breaking.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 17:48 mircea_popescu: there's ONE thing the middle eastern guy has that white man can't replicate, and that is, a stable, and here i kid you not, a stable, of dozen+ pliable obedient females WITH offspring.
mircea_popescu: but to my eyes, it;s more a case of "i want impossible item" "why ?" "because of strange notion" "Wouldn't it be cheaper to..." "fu demigod, it is true humanity to do the impossible ; takes demigod to accept the obvious!"
asciilifeform: is this simply variation on familiar mircea_popescu program 'i am demigod and if somebody has a motivation i don't grasp, they are inconsequential sea slug and stfu' ?
mircea_popescu: "i swear it came out by itself! i didn't even push! it has a mind of its own! let's call him gusti!"
asciilifeform: not that i couldn't arrange it, but that it would not be accurate picture of ~purpose-designed~ capsule
mircea_popescu: you wouldn't want TO LIVE IN YOUR FUCKING CAR, communitng forever for the rest of your life, yes ?
asciilifeform: how much of the $maxint machine do you ~need~ if you don't need to launch nukes ? etc
mircea_popescu: this isn't really how transport vessels work, except for a subset of young males.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu doesn't even conceptualize the problem i'd like solved as being a problem.
mircea_popescu: it ain't.
mircea_popescu: no matter how sad you are, hair's not gonna jump off the scissors and back on your head ; no matter how emo you are, ocean still won't suddenly become a space allocator working as you want it to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu simply doesn't grok the depth of asciilifeform's misanthropy.
trinque: phf: there's a contradiction in someone that just wants to techmology, doesn't want to have to talk to anyone. Technology is a social enterprise; if social conditions are that bad, there are problems more fundamental than "can't have real computer" and such.
mircea_popescu: it isn't, no.
phf: trinque: it's techno nomad, it's a thing. microship guy doesn't really try to solve same problem as orlol, it's all different people with personal interests and agendas that don't necessarily compose into a single stereotype ☟︎
trinque: this guy's got a lab, what, to continue taking part in the same world he can't stand? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: plastics ain't that big a deal.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ibm example isn't so good. the sort of phenomena that were conquered to produce the 1k chickens 1950-1990 are very fucking different from the sort of phenomena the boat has to encounter,
mircea_popescu: no, because they aren't made for this purpose.
asciilifeform: so they weren't wholly disposable.
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as "why is e < 3??" "no reason" in nature, and from there in engineering. there isn't really such a thing in society, and from there in culture.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't ~work~, but that's a very different story.
mod6: <+shinohai> It's like a colossal shit that won't flush. << haha
Framedragger: jurov: elinks loads it fine on ssd but search doesn't work (~works, but notrly). i think i used lynx when looking up stuff on phuctor tho. oh well. :/
mircea_popescu: (ie, it relied on you having a mental map of structure which it wouldn't render, or not render well. without it, it was unusable, which is why the illiterate couldn't use it well, didn't like to use it at all, and the "free form" html prevailed)
Framedragger: yeah i have this stupid nostalgia for things of that kind even though i haven't experienced them myself >.<
shinohai: It's like a colossal shit that won't flush.
Framedragger: trinque: no but i agree and won't argue the opposite!
mircea_popescu: wasn't phuctor display flask based ?
Framedragger: trinque: saves lots of time, for one, and quite a bit of redundancy. don't need to manually implement api endpoints etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it doesn't matter what you hang off pci, there is a ~10x variance of front-side vs back-side bus
Framedragger: won't be fast than ram, what are you smoking :)
mircea_popescu: i didn't realise lisp is practically useful.
mircea_popescu: the big problem is that lazy thinkers and "hopefuls" of all stripes have made it into their comfortable home. this can't fucking stand.
mircea_popescu: in short : the web is very, very broken - but most of the breakage isn't even in the software. yes apache sucks and wtf is js even.
trinque: openbsd's httpd doesn't look like that much src to read, while we're still in c-machine hell.
asciilifeform: www server doesn't do much.
mircea_popescu: anyway. in practice there's also nginx, which i doubt is any better ; and i don't foresee our writing of a web server right nao. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "we". some idiots went , weren't us and it shows.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't automatically have to be "send your data to X guy who runs the official data-dump server"
BingoBoingo: Doesn't like vermin, also doesn't like organo phosphates. Dilemmas.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-18#1504937 << in practice a "consensus mechanism" as seen to work among angloderps guarantees everything's broken all the time, but they don't feel too bad about it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm thinking the way this will end up is to separate the data processing ; data acquisition ; and data dissemination. evidently people good at any of these aren't good at the others, and have incredibly elaborate excuses for maintaining the situation that likely aren't worth cutting through.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-18 17:09 jurov: and it's questionable why export it as html, when browser can't be used and we have to grep it anyway?