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asciilifeform: 'Налево пойдешь - коня потеряешь...'
asciilifeform: that's what whole shebang looked like to asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: does ro have that folk tale, where 'go left, lose your horse, go right, lose yer life,...' etc ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: the odor of cynical scamola was overpowering to my nose.
asciilifeform: i did see these. but barfed mightily when reaching out tentacle and thinking of trying, and then found that they cancel orders arbitrarily when price moves
asciilifeform: but then, did not know.
asciilifeform: i believe.
asciilifeform: ( and, i suppose, miners, which struck me as immediately pyramidal, 'if this were +ev, the vendor would keep'em, not sell' )
asciilifeform: but in so far as i was able to see, in those days, the only physical product was smalltime dope peddlage
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is quite troo
asciilifeform: ( fwiw asciilifeform has today -- minus bbet -- all of the coin he had then, and if he had found the subj interesting from practical pov vs merely scientific, and bought with money, would likely have it still, asciilifeform is 100% immune to pretty much all of the diseases that cost the 'early adopters' their toys )
asciilifeform: sorta why asciilifeform was convinced that btc would sink
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to my eye, it all looked like exactly identical pyramidism, 'nobody's manufacturing anyffing, not chips, not prime ribs, not even porn flicks, all numbers games with each other's belly lint'
asciilifeform: mercaptans.
asciilifeform: faraday's 'what use is baby' eh.
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: when asciilifeform ran into 'btc komyoonity', ended up quickly setting bozo bit on all 'investmentisms' en masse. ( even included mircea_popescu & co, was not able to distinguish from the rest until hanbot wrote to me and asked to try demo & read the mpoe materials )
asciilifeform: 'lost key'
asciilifeform: ^ loox pretty dead
asciilifeform: !!reputation rassah
asciilifeform: at least, then.
asciilifeform: to as many decimal commas as one might ask.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i also '0 work' in the newtonian sense.
asciilifeform: then again, who am i to laugh, i burned '13 on hand-built fpga miner. made grand total of 0.6 coin.
asciilifeform: even 'pay off house' is crumbs, for the sort of work these people (as i understand) were doing
asciilifeform: 'pay off car' lol
asciilifeform: why bother unraveling massive cpp hairball, for small change..
asciilifeform: fwiw it never made sense to asciilifeform
asciilifeform: ( i suspect they all ended up like esr, but naturally have no way to know )
asciilifeform: way i see it, there was this degenerative disease, 'i am rich nao!111, will go and buy cocaine yacht and opium-retire on it' , number of sufferers in log history
asciilifeform: but perhaps had enuff to contract kuru.
asciilifeform: ( cashed out megatonne of btc into saeculobux, melted brain ? )
asciilifeform: there were a number of these, i think
asciilifeform: ( seems to have been a trader ? )
asciilifeform: who , for instance , was smickles. ( i formed impression that he was an active fella, but do not know with what )
asciilifeform: lotsa good lulz from before asciilifeform tuned in. ( sometimes i go back an' read these, but most of it dun make sense except to expert archaeologist, which i am not )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2013-03-11#-86221 << lol, prophecy ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2013-03-11#-86304 << still unsolved enigma, afaik.. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( btw congrats to jurov & mod6 for bringing ml back to life ! )
asciilifeform: produces things like http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150701/private_dirty_593063f24445b86ead7ed066cec803fa2cbec79b.png .
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html << for reference, recipe for graphic process mem usages
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pmap
asciilifeform: ok there i see it.
asciilifeform: aaa
asciilifeform: ave1: what exactly depends on gpg2?!
asciilifeform: congrats BingoBoingo !
asciilifeform: ( even microshit, has, what, 50MB one )
asciilifeform: 3G kernel ?!!!
asciilifeform: i did not expect to ever again need a 32bit arm gcc, but there it is.
asciilifeform: ( where ideally i can put in any arch supported by gcc backend, and get a that-flavoured gnat out )
asciilifeform: i'd like to never again use theirs, tho, but only ave1's builders
asciilifeform: ave1: afaik adacore already distributed a 32bit one, might want to look to see what it was made of
asciilifeform: ( arm8 apparently includes a 32bit 'M0' coprocessor, 'for power manager' )
asciilifeform: ave1: didja ever get a arm32 gnat built ? turns out, 'uboot' needs one, to build
asciilifeform: ohai ave1
asciilifeform: ( recall the dma thread, for instance. 9000+ hacks around the retardation of von neumann box. )
asciilifeform: turns into infinite bubblegum plugs.
asciilifeform: this kind of thing shows up whenever a broken basis is picked .
asciilifeform: the allcomers-net is fundamentally bottomless hole.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-04#1847282 << somehow i missed this line on 1st pass through log. yes, that's exactly it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( recall the mig scrapyard in timis ? )
asciilifeform: but, costs.
asciilifeform: the seekret is that supplies last, theoretically, for long time, there are folx repairing t34 and mig21 today.
asciilifeform: and noshit.
asciilifeform: it's how it's done, yes
asciilifeform: and when needs new rack&pinion, who does it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who do you have doing it, then
asciilifeform: if only had old autos, would be spending time like ben_vulpes & asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: key element, your orcistan has not only old autos but master smiths.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: orcistans starved for imports , sometimes have astonishing masters of junkyard wars
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: prolly a far cry from the master smiths of havana, who can fit toyota engine block into lada, with moskvich transmission
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i thought para-- was mule country
asciilifeform dreams of living in a thing where he could have pit, crane...
asciilifeform: iirc ben_vulpes , trinque , have old autos, know exactly what this story is about.
asciilifeform: 'here, buy a 3k one on installment, it'll last 9 months, we promise'
asciilifeform: 'terrorist.'
asciilifeform: alternative is 'oops, sucks to be you, you bought 2k machine , what do you mean you expect more than 6months out of it'
asciilifeform: folx like asciilifeform , only have any pocket money left , because they're willing to lay out the grease rag and spend whole day+ inside gears, belts
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: current usg is quite eager to have konsoomer dispose of old, repairable [cars, washers, etc] in favour of chinesium
asciilifeform: *conjures
asciilifeform: asciilifeform goes and conujures up the 'unobtainium'
asciilifeform: i could tell 9000 stories like this, they all end same
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was lulzy, Official repair d00d threw up hands, 'can't source part'
asciilifeform: ( as it is, i spent good % of weekend in crapple store, and other % -- fixing fucking washing machine with own hands )
asciilifeform: if i knew how to do errything without vlsi, that can be done with, i'd be having tea with mircea_popescu in the palace on neighbouring hill, perhaps.
asciilifeform: some things i presently know how to do without vlsi. one of them was trng, and did.
asciilifeform: rright. ideally you want to know what's possible before reaching the 'das war ein befehl!111111' stage
asciilifeform: afaik this is correct sum.
asciilifeform: possible that my hands do not grow from correct place, or possible that if mircea_popescu had chinese gurl, she could steal the missing datashit..
asciilifeform: and recall, at one time asciilifeform burned 6mo+ to try and bring up realtek GB nic from 'raw iron', in the end did not even succeed in this ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sat down and worked through it on several occasions, most recently during gossipd thread; prior to that, when i was in slave galley and tore own hair out with juniperism; and prior...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is always possible that i am wrong about some ( who knows, all ) piece. sorta why it is good to have dozen d00dz, vs 1 or 2, with hands growing from correct place
asciilifeform: usg.tor was precisely the 'faux-phuctor' they built to distract thinking folx from the very idea.
asciilifeform: this being said, eventual getting off usg.net is a godly thing, and inescapable . but it aint a desperate pre-req to routing sanity, imho.
asciilifeform: observe that trb in fact worx pretty well, even though mircea_popescu did not lay cable.
asciilifeform: sorta how btc p2p net existingly worx.
asciilifeform: even carrying in ordinary ip net, you gain the fact of '9000+' nodes that speak only to each other, and ddos of '9000' nodes, even if somehow all of'em were known to enemy, is impractical.
asciilifeform: i daren't to presume to know whether biznis-requisite, that's a 100% mircea_popescu-grade puzzler.
asciilifeform: can carry over conventional fibers, or even telephone modem.
asciilifeform: the basic mechanics are same, whether carrier is radio, copper, or optics.