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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not so many 80yo d00dz have working cns. ( ~possibly~ rms circa 1990 would have been ~interesting in forum. but this ? fungus )

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 16:54:29 mircea_popescu: dude's fucking unreadable.

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's an autism standard. Kinda like how France has an international kilogram standard. That tardball of insanity is the international autism standard of Virginia

asciilifeform: subj .

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 16:08:17 mircea_popescu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/selam-gano-089895ba << me goes "wtf is a selam gano". turns out... yep, exactly what you'd expect, irigaray "physicist'.

BingoBoingo: http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#footnote_1_54763

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: found it, fwiw

asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu actually had piece on this subj. where mentioned 'dragon'. i.e. at some pt the lamer's task becomes factually impossible, after tall enuff pile of fuckup

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as you said earlier, prolly similar to how phf threw in towel. i.e. 'i racked up 9 figures of stupidity bill, no way to pay'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'face derealization' / 'they gave up, why' -- i was reading not long ago about keldysh (head of sovok academy of sciences, and overall respectable figure, in charge of ~100% of calculative works for space / atomic programs etc. ) BUT at same time is the fella who undertook 'let's ditch native comp archs and copy pdp'. seems like was a checkmate, rather than 'dolchstoss', saw no working alternative , 'we can't affor

asciilifeform: aha! ty mircea_popescu , was digging for that same piece

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought it started in stone age, where 'fair', i.e. can't effectively make a usable-later pile of ~anyffin

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to colour in the picture -- who were 1, 2, 3 ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'gave up' in '70s, when the 'party elite' sys solidified into an obviously hereditary aristocracy (populated by not esp. bright folx, at that)

snsabot: Logged on 2018-12-01 15:45:29 mircea_popescu: the "consummer affair" is the gringo's exact version of the "thinking man gave up", coming 2 decades later. (ie, next generation of ustards copied prev generation of soviets. like they always do, btw)

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 14:44:51 mircea_popescu: anyway, to make the point for the 9`000th time in the general, because unlike the previous 8`999th times prior, each exactly proven correct and each exactly disavowed the very next morning, THERE IS NOTHING CONTROLLED ABOUT INCA WORLD.

asciilifeform: btw BingoBoingo , mircea_popescu , how wouldja square http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936980 w/ http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1936958 ?

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> we fucked her in all the holes last time, leaving her a broken heap. and she was already fucking old. << How could the derealized know?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: zx2c4 iirc

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ghostships eventually touch land one final time. Whether the land is seafloor or shore depends

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems to be very similar to what during vietnam, aha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re glibc -- iirc subj of inquiry was re the 'nss' thing, which i found to be the sublib that drags in dynamicism, dns, etc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'great' in the andropov sense.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that was the moment asciilifeform realized rms is 100% fungus by weight, and 0 left to salvage

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was discussed in log .

asciilifeform: oh hey mircea_popescu do you still have that letter where he took a shit on asciilifeform's complaint re glibc ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he'll be toilet attendant for'em. iirc beyond certain level of fat they actually need 2nd pair of hands to clean arse.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm?

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 04:06:25 mircea_popescu: it's conceivableone day might. math very much did manage, but only as of 1905 or thereabouts! at that point it had been around for twenty five to thrity centuries!

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-17 04:05:33 mircea_popescu: besides nonsense dust there;s also joy dust ; they could in principle balance out ; literature as a body of work (though mostly in french, somewhat in latin, defo not in english besides a few hundred pages) achieved that ; "computer programming" never did.

asciilifeform: cluj-napoca... babes-bolyai << deceased sensei of mircea_popescu ?

mircea_popescu: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/in-which-orphan-eric-learns-the-value-of-negotiable-instruments-and-saving-in-capital-goods/#footnote_7_81 << this is particularly funny, because almost every time slut gets publicly punished, helpful bystander inquires about a possible acquisit

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 20:36:48 hanbot: actually nah, that's hanbot-abroad. i'm trying to register hanbot_abroad, possibly deedbot doesn't like the similarity.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 06:51:35 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936626 << heh. i guess the only practicable way to rent in the us is actually like lobbes stumbled upon : pick up chicks, don't put them on the lease, work them for the keep and dismiss when done.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:53:54 mircea_popescu: NEGOTIABLE.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-02-07 14:22:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a greybeard once told asciilifeform , 'you dun know it, but you got finite # loc in you, once you've written them will stand the machine no moar and have to move to forest and eat bark'. i'm not even convinced that it was joke.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:15:54 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936596 << i imagine the ~perceived~ pressure on nameless womanhood is quite immense, "omfg, what do i say, what if they make fun of me, they're gonna say i never installed linux from scratch as if it implied i'm half a dead man riding about on half a dead rabbit!!!"

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:10:54 mircea_popescu: and speaking of http://trilema.com/2019/concedo-hoc/#comment-131427 : i'm pretty sure i read trinque referring to the laughable playdates of the menalone as "wankastery" / "wankasteries", as a transparent adjustment of monastery to more truthfully reflect its real function

hanbot: actually nah, that's hanbot-abroad. i'm trying to register hanbot_abroad, possibly deedbot doesn't like the similarity.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: lemme know how you want the db on dulap corrected ( 'drop where chan='ossasepia'... & import ? then plox to deedbot a replacement dump of #o )

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 17:30:20 diana_coman: tbh that was my initial reluctance with making converter a .vpatch to start with; maybe it makes sense to still make it a .vpatch but with clear example of format since just saying "irssi" might not be quite enough.

lobbes: I guess what I'm asking is should we bother patching for all permutations of possible formats, or just stick with diana_coman's original and state what it expects. To my limited eye I'd say the latter is the saner approach

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-11 20:38:43 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-10#1935452 << conversion being traditionally this task that never ends.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-16 20:46:42 diana_coman: tbh that was my initial reluctance with making converter a .vpatch to start with; maybe it makes sense to still make it a .vpatch but with clear example of format since just saying "irssi" might not be quite enough.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> an; that australian fuckwit stockbroker who was defrauding dudes online and was then VERY SURPRISED when i had him fired / banned from trading wtf his name was << Harnett and you did that in 2012

BingoBoingo: Found one: http://trilema.com/2013/what-the-drug-trade-is-how-the-drug-trade-works-and-why-silk-road-didnt-work-and-didnt-matter/#footnote_6_49796

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 13:20:43 asciilifeform: diana_coman: when you fix your copy, i'ma reimport, ping me

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik he was the 1 sovok fuhrer who managed to have a bit of fun in civilian life.

mircea_popescu: or for that matter charles 2.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: you know, I had read precisely that sort of ads ad nauseam quite some year ago in local newspapers/whatevers in ploiesti/bucharest

asciilifeform: diana_coman: when you fix your copy, i'ma reimport, ping me

asciilifeform: diana_coman: dun seem to be caused by my proggy ( but loox like you already found )

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:30:18 mircea_popescu: no wonder zeks end up crushed under dependopopotami in their private relations -- at least it's consequent, the bitch at home behaves exactly like the home itself, spend decade to get 0.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-16 09:13:02 mircea_popescu: there's more, and besideswhich a lot more to all of these foregoing parts, but holy hell... seriously, nobody ever thinks of things or what is the problem here !?

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:26:48 mircea_popescu: "snsabot Logged on 2017-12-13 23:52:25 asciilifeform:" should become "snsabot 2017-12-13 [ossasepia] asciilifeform:" for all reads of a foreign log, and "snsabot 2017-12-13 asciilifeform:" for all reads of this here log.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: there isn't currently any such thing. ( what asciilifeform was orig. wanting to make, was a 'calendar page' thing. but not attempted yet. )

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i suppose.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu: fwiw I suspect what "gotta be going on" is ~= fear (coming out of being entirely and utterly unprepared to deal with it if "not believing")

snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-18 09:59:04 mp_en_viaje: i can almost hear the cageworthy old woman impelling the nonsense, too, "oh, why don't you want to do $random-stupid-shit, ~are you too scared?!?!?!?~".

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-16 05:37:45 mircea_popescu: IF the problem is that the currency is shit (which is strictly what "rising rents" means : if rents are rising, THEREFORE the currency is shit. if urine is sweet, THEREFORE diabethes, no iffs or butts about it, these are NOT separable), then owning real estate is a very poor solution : real estate follows the currency secular trend

snsabot: Logged on 2018-11-25 13:50:17 a111: Logged on 2014-09-10 15:02 mircea_popescu: well yeah. was a bunch o people, they got building permit and proceeded to built like at home. concrete pillars, brick walls etc.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 20:55:59 asciilifeform: ( and mircea_popescu , say if you want yours excluded, or alternatively prefix '[chan] Logged on xxxx-xx-xx.... foo' etc. )

mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936602 << okay, but what's the problem with it echoing "[trilema] <mircea_popescu> but i can't seem to find it ?!" rather than "<mircea_popescu> but i can't seem to find it ?!"

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 20:49:08 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936575 << i can either switch off echo from cross-chan or put in marker , let mircea_popescu say which when he wakes up ( will make it a knob. )

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform a [#chan] marker from bot sounds good to me; in #o for now at least I'd rather it cross-echoes indeed but I can see also why this might not be appropriate for #t

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 18:43:07 mircea_popescu: but, traditionally, owning real estate is what separates the bourgeoisie from the mob/vagrancie.

asciilifeform: ( and mircea_popescu , say if you want yours excluded, or alternatively prefix '[chan] Logged on xxxx-xx-xx.... foo' etc. )

asciilifeform: diana_coman, spyked , lobbes , BingoBoingo , lemme know if you want yours in that list .

asciilifeform: ( e.g. cross_post=asciilifeform,...,..., )

asciilifeform: graphical browsers tell you url when hovering, but e.g. lynx does not, prolly explains why mircea_popescu went grr

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 18:45:12 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936554 << holy shit this can't continue, if you folk are going to let the logreaders read from other channels (which, honestly, i'm considering banning) at least prepend an [channel name] before or something.

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936575 << i can either switch off echo from cross-chan or put in marker , let mircea_popescu say which when he wakes up ( will make it a knob. )

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 21:59:05 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936550 << i dunno dood, you're selling houses, being poor, it's a stu. you'll have to sort it out for yourself, i can't figure it out from over here.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-13 08:17:35 mircea_popescu: anyways -- when are we looking at delivery ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, lobbes diana_coman ^

lobbes: diana_coman: this is true, huh. Besides, worse things I could be than a knight! I'll take the opportunity to learn how to not decide things in haste for example

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 12:57:02 diana_coman: I just realised that it was probably not clear above: my point was why regret the *decision*.

ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 14:46:06 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936485 << because my decision was made hastily and prematurely imo. I don't think I needed to resign. I did so thinking I could eschew choice, but that is stupid; can't ever eschew choice wtf. And this dumb move will result in loss of coolness, as mircea_popescu pointed out; loss of privilege.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-13 08:17:35 mircea_popescu: anyways -- when are we looking at delivery ?

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 12:57:02 diana_coman: I just realised that it was probably not clear above: my point was why regret the *decision*.

lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936485 << because my decision was made hastily and prematurely imo. I don't think I needed to resign. I did so thinking I could eschew choice, but that is stupid; can't ever eschew choice wtf. And this dumb move will result in loss of coolness, as mircea_popescu pointed out; loss of privilege.

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 11:58:51 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936363 << turn it whichever way you wish, lordship an' poverty don't work together. in all cases it's better to resolve shortfalls by increasing income rather than by reducing expense, and yes the point's well made that by the time a few hundy a month make a difference one has much more pressing problems than puttin

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-14 20:09:08 mircea_popescu: (you may think she has home equity or w/e, but in practice see the medicare threads, it's on loan)

ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-15 11:55:12 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936360 << nobody's requiring you to take any specific decisions. the limit's the establishment of the facts, you said some things, i retorted because i didn't think they were necessarily factual, not because i thought you should do x or whatever.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 06:02:00 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936270 <<< nfi why they didn't simply lease the local army's materiel for a week. looks way the fuck better, defo cheaper than that dumb shit...

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 06:00:42 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936265 << why the fuck is it mostly young dudes tho.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 11:41:41 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936507 << could, and regularly did, march quarry on foot from auditorium to bed.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 05:43:16 mircea_popescu: http://thimbron.com/2019/09/julian-jaynes/?b=Ando&e=#select << what's this then ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol, cuboliter, asciilifeform was posting b4tea!111

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: zn-al typically. ( why ? it injection-molds, like plastic )

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 09:06:54 mircea_popescu: if work avoidance worked that well, usgistani chemopsychiatry'd almost make sense, come to think of it.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 09:05:57 mircea_popescu: one day the surgery team removed a man's testicles by mistake. the man himself was cavallier about it : "well... it's that much less to wash."

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 08:46:39 mircea_popescu: also, the campus was literally one mile from my residence at the time ; and the campus worked mostly as young whore storage in those days.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 08:42:25 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936363 << turn it whichever way you wish, lordship an' poverty don't work together. in all cases it's better to resolve shortfalls by increasing income rather than by reducing expense, and yes the point's well made that by the time a few hundy a month make a difference one has much more pressing problems than puttin

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 08:26:34 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1936327 << also solution, rent for a coupla days.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 06:03:16 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: even if/when I must introduce it because possibly some disgruntled good for nothings have nothing better to do than to spam

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 06:17:08 mircea_popescu: then a minute later, loads again. and will be fine again for however long, an hour or a day, but then again, taskes a minute off.

snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-15 08:25:10 mircea_popescu: but also no reason to use al in your applciation. use zamak, weld with Lotkolben

asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-15#1936438 << prolly mircea_popescu was thinking of zinc (as in sovok coffin), rather than the cast shitmetal 'zamac' . but mno, these in fact need good mechanical strength and -- even moar vitally -- good thermals