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mircea_popescu: this, of course, isn't a crime. but it can readily account for diversity of oppinion.
mircea_popescu: alright. so let's just say there's a lot of history you do not know.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, "there are no new things in this world besides the history you do not know" is a somewhat famous quip.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i dun imagine he was much following bitcoin prior to his sudden realisation that it can do things.
mircea_popescu: ok, well, let's just say there's a lot of history you don't know.
mircea_popescu: (made, in case you also weren't there for the berlin games, means to have been spotted.)
mircea_popescu: but yes, zx2c4 : there are heuristics which do make human work easier. and it is the tell tale of a made agent, that he gets sent on garbage missions.
mircea_popescu: well, "the world" didn't hear "just the facts" about that, either. so...
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, are you aware some mit schmuck was "in charge of bitcoin" "left by satoshi" and then i said he'd better get lost and then he was kicked off like so much flotsam ?
mircea_popescu: i suppose he wasn't here for the gavin beheading, imagines the usg can even protect its agents or something like that.
mircea_popescu: this is why i'm somebody and ten thousand fake media shills are essentially gloves.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, not a matter of trivially. what i say has a lot of power, such as to end careers, research lines etcetera.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yeah, the experience of the bitter fruits of socialism is always so inadherent to they inebriated by the flowers.
mircea_popescu: jesus christ. re-do this conversation with a six year old girl instead of dkg. "she either enjoyed it or she lied." motherfucker! SHE IS NOT ABLE TO SPEAK.
mircea_popescu: you understand this, dkg is ~not capable~ of saying things.
mircea_popescu: i'm not asking plebs anything. other than perhaps to get in the wot and do their log reading.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, the debian bug was a nsa plant is neitehr controversial nor requires any conspiracy.
mircea_popescu: what exactly is prestigious outside of my rating it, i don't get it ? you imagine i even for a second see the people eating rubber chicken at conferences above the prostitutes i don't bother to talk to at strip clubs ? why the fuck would i roflmao.
mircea_popescu: what world is this, iyo, that's not me and of me ? the squalor of shard dorms ? the plastic cubical farms ? what exactly ?
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, a) it is not a complaint b) seeing how i'm the one with all the money and all the rapes, i can scarcely conceive what "the world" even is.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, in statistics, it's the universal "no relevance" ; in practice, this must be translated to meaning.
mircea_popescu: there's very limited capacity for understanding the world in complex systems. kinda why they fail.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i don't think the usg is capable of representing me at all.
mircea_popescu: the more you need to be "protected" and "be given just the facts" and so on, the more need for socialism.
mircea_popescu: your government basically exists out of, and depends upon, you needing it to interface the world for you.
mircea_popescu: in general your government has an interest in you not talking to me, yes. or to anyone else, if at all possible ; and if not possible then ~not in any meaningful way~.
mircea_popescu: they're not "drawing the same conclusions". they're simply trying the equivalent of google keyword stuffing. "hey, maybe if i publish machine-generated pages with words people search for i'll be able to sell traffic"
mircea_popescu: every empire is invested principally in a maintenance of the statu quo.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck do you expect going to work for nsa is, other than "sit here and waste the rest of your life quietly lest the terorists get hold of you and give you something actually useful to do" ?
mircea_popescu: i am not limiting the discussion to "Trendy". some items are useful to special-interest-group-women-are-people ; some other items are useful to special-interest-group-no-research-in-nsa-subersions-plox and so on
mircea_popescu: there's no need of conspiracy ; just the normal working of ambitious stupidity.
mircea_popescu: and once it's political, everyone wants in. "publish this because special-interest-group-x wants more stuff like it".
mircea_popescu: since there is no ~possibility~ of rational merit in the deluge of proposals coming his way and no method allowing him to distinguish between sokal items and science, would it take much for his decision process to become political ?
mircea_popescu: 4. at some juncture, some dood is sitting on a bale of freshly printed newspaper clippings ^H^H moeny, and has to distribute it.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, i dunno what conspiracy is under discussion here.
mircea_popescu: the item exists, re bolix, say. which people saw but did not publish. and are to be very much ashamed of.
mircea_popescu: you can't say "x is similar to y" when y exists and x does not.
mircea_popescu: then, when shit hit the fan and both these matters were publicly proven, the reaction of all involved was to deny ; and of all naive bystanders to "memory hole effect".
mircea_popescu: how about this : "academics/journalists/assorted neets released wordsonapdf without releasing raw data to support conclusions *because* they didn't actually do any research to generate said raw data" ; "these baseless claims were paid fiat paper, because the person ion charge of distributing fiat paper to baseless claims picked them out of the sea of similar batshit insane nonsense emanating from the insane asylum at large, f
mircea_popescu: one could readily mechanize the process that created say curtis yarvin's "identity", say.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, 2. 3 is an indirect side effect of no particular consequence.
mircea_popescu: it works well enough, for as long as the republic doesn't mess up things.
mircea_popescu: rhaps discourage "men alone" (such as, prior to finding this place, yourself) from actually doing the research in question.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, understand the full model of this : ambitious people whose hardware does not support their aspirations (ie, the aspirational 14%) say things that are not true. such as "we did research of so and so". now and again, they happen on a useful lie, something the establishment does not actually want researchedf. so they get a little slop, to encourage them to continue with their nonsense, while their imago is then used to pe
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, no. i am saying that they are intelectually incosequential ninnies, who happened to tell a convenient lie.
mircea_popescu: for the record, pirate was also indicted by the us circus at ~our~ pressure, and only after it became obvious to the usg that i am actually making it impossible for him to be of any further "use".
mircea_popescu: that fraud does not usually get punished by the "legal system" does not mean either boeck or pirate are respectable items.
mircea_popescu: it's plain and simple fraud, and yes of the criminal sort.
mircea_popescu: no. the summary is what i told you : they LIED about doing research ; some victims paid them money ; the data was then published by third parties ; they stole it ; the victims ate it.
mircea_popescu: in order to have published, you must publish ; otherwise herodotus' imaginary travels are the first source for animals that don't exist.
mircea_popescu: it does not look like anything. KEYS and FACTORS. not stories about. the numbers.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, you're more than welcome to identify sets of keys WITH THE RESPECTIVE FACTORS published by anyone, at any time, then compare this with the phuctor set, and then write to whatever plagiarism committee you imagine is keeping academia from wallowing in the utter gutters of the intellectual world.
mircea_popescu: no. some people were lying about doing research that they did not do. then we came and "stole" their "idea", did it, published results.
mircea_popescu: zx2c4, "real" in what sense ? it was published once phuctor published the results, through the procedure of copy.pasting it.
mircea_popescu: this is actually pretty common behaviour, among idiots.
mircea_popescu: then whatever victims they lied to decided rather than admit they were swindled out of whatever the scammers cost, it'd be better for academic facade to pretend the fraud was never exposed, and carry on.
mircea_popescu: hanno boeck, some chick named nirdlinger or nirflinger or whatever and some other schmucks lied for years about having done research they never actually did.
mircea_popescu: aaanyways ; not the end of the world. learning is how learning goes, after all.
mircea_popescu: the difference between me and ten thousand librarians who also read the same books is that i don't go around spitting out the references in lieu of doing the inadherent wwwism.
mircea_popescu: gotta speak ~to~ whoever you'e speaking to ; not ~of~ whatever you're speaking of.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, tis more than just the rss / "wwwism is foreign and repulsive to asciilifeform". you've seen me communicate clearly and early about ten thousand times, and here you are stuck doing late ineffectuality. not good.
mircea_popescu: don't start pointing fingers and acting like idiots about it, either. you've got a problem, because to survive one must stay agile, not senilize before the time.
mircea_popescu: that he ~tried to~ is evident ; that it didn't work is even more evident. you lot have to have words together and get better at this.
mircea_popescu: anyway, /me will expose the hand, might as well be upfront about things. so, asciilifeform did at some point express some interest in learning the magical crafts of management ; i since fed him the occasional dollop, in the manner this craft was always taught whenever it was taught. as part of this, when he left for montevideo i specifically told him to recognize BingoBoingo 's efforts with a raise early rather than late for
mircea_popescu: lobbes, this was conceived as a priority item, because ideally quick to do. but ...