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mircea_popescu: as if your don't undertstanding is an extenuating circumstance, that somehow makes anything better, like salt and blowing up the whites.
mircea_popescu: and disciplines of the ass, such as being a sumo wrestler.
mircea_popescu: there's a major difference between disciplines of the mind, such as NOT BEING STUPID
mircea_popescu: as bitcoin grows there'll be more stuff to list.
Atomicat: lol yeah but MPEX is not as big as NYSE.;p
mircea_popescu: Atomicat yeah. but there are brokers, such as for instance jurov's coinbr.com that are less onerous.
Atomicat: mircea_popescu: "Make sure you include verbiage to reflect that you are aware you will be required to pay 50 BTC as fees for registering the account, and are prepared to do so. "
mircea_popescu: and ugly as fuck, but the hottest fuck in paris. at least if you ask the sluts.
thestringpuller: seems dope as hell: "His career spanned the regimes of Louis XVI, the years of the French Revolution, Napoleon, Louis XVIII, and Louis-Philippe."
mircea_popescu: as well as, for completness, http://trilema.com/2013/the-list-of-discontinued-assets-on-mpex/
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 15:24:47; thestringpuller: DerpUnion: bitcoin mining is a black hole, as in you'll never get the BTC out you put into miners unless you can do some voodoo. Even if electricity cost was 0, you'd still have trouble paying off the miners themselves unless you have direct access to $foundry
mircea_popescu: "old miners" do what you say in cases such as saudi arabia cutting prices to sink obama's hopes of reindustrializing the us, sure. but note that there's a strong "god-given" element to this : the saudis didn't BUILD those oil deposits.
thestringpuller: DerpUnion: bitcoin mining is a black hole, as in you'll never get the BTC out you put into miners unless you can do some voodoo. Even if electricity cost was 0, you'd still have trouble paying off the miners themselves unless you have direct access to $foundry ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and kakobrekla - how about assbot getting a !seen which returns "timestamp of last successful !v response" ? so as not to have to use gribble's.
PeterL: as far as we know, we are the only people using trb?
PeterL: Atomicat, it would be a mining pool run using the same rule as TRB (the real bitcoin)
mircea_popescu has no idea who any of these people are, googles the latter, he looks about as black as wesley snipes wtf.
mircea_popescu: "Star Wars was released theatrically in the United States on May 25, 1977. It earned $461 million in the US and $314 million overseas, totaling $775 million. It surpassed Jaws (1975) to become the highest-grossing film of all time; its gross was later surpassed by that of E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982). When adjusted for inflation as of 2013" << check it out, there was inflation since the 80s ?!
fluffypony: and he's black as night
BingoBoingo: trb behaving as expected so far, no forgetten gold in the wallet.dat yet
mircea_popescu: however more importantly b) there is NO WAY for neutral-S miners to profit from T2-Tn as-is.
mircea_popescu: a) the expectation is, as you've seen, that i'll get an accountant out of bed and on my own dime fix the mess power rangers made because hey, why not, it's a decentralized protocol which means some idiots break it and the world fixes it
mircea_popescu: all miners, whether they be S-indiscriminate or S-selective can mine T1 necessarily. the latter as is ; the former as T1 in 50% of cases and as T1' in the remainder cases, where T1' = C-T1
mircea_popescu: no miner rejects high S txn as such.
asciilifeform: 'The requirement to have signatures that comply strictly with DER has been enforced as a relay policy by the reference client since v0.8.0, and very few transactions violating it are being added to the chain as of January 2015. ' <<< ahahaha turns out i was right, even per the horse's own mouth
mircea_popescu: their version of bitcoin is not actually valid as per the bitcoin protocol.
asciilifeform: aha. so that would be if prb behaved as i believed it did, where it will still eat a block generated by 2009 rules
mircea_popescu: hard forks are a change of the protocol. as the change is NOT valid by everyone's rules, it is definitionally an alt coin.
mircea_popescu: they can be applied by convention. as the chance is still valid by everyone's rule, no changes are needed.
mircea_popescu: there isn't a "you do yours and i do mine" thing here. IF we decide to mine as much as one single high s block, this INVALIDATES all further work of all noncompliant miners. forever.
asciilifeform: to me this reads as an argument in favour of a high-S pool
asciilifeform: just as low-S
asciilifeform: mod6: it could make sense as a toggle flag
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 00:15:32; mircea_popescu: if the company you manage behaves as an approximation of a cockroach, your wife needs a divorce.
mircea_popescu: (you may not know of all the 90s "urban revival" attempts that created such as modern portland etc, after a seattle blueprint)
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 19:19:53; shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo #VanillaISIS goes actual ISIS: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/isis-supporter-joins-ammon-bundys-armed-occupation-as-resident-computer-expert/
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 00:15:32; mircea_popescu: if the company you manage behaves as an approximation of a cockroach, your wife needs a divorce.
asciilifeform: 'Justice Department officials have said that if the new systems work as advertised, they will make it virtually impossible to solve some cases,as the companies have promised customers the equivalent of a house that can't be searched, or a car trunk that could never be opened.'
mod6: shinohai: see if you can get the same as me ^^ (see dpaste)
pete_dushenski: "Wences: Okay, I agree with that, friend ; I don’t want to offend you, so I am going to use my mom as an example." << can you spot the three tell-tale scammer hooks here ?
assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 00:01:18; kakobrekla: also unrelated, ex asseteer wences is now on board of director as paypal it seems
mod6: you should be able to sync the whole thing now and get those ones as well.
shinohai: I got as far as pressing, but code doesnt change mod6 :/
mod6: you should be able to drop those patches into your patches directory for V, and then also put the seals in your seals dir -- once that's complete doing `./v.pl f` should show you a flow with those patches in there with 'asciilifeform' as the signatory.
mircea_popescu: "wavelength as a second parameter photons" ahahahaha omfg.
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 16:20:20; ascii_butugychag: as, possibly, taleb, et al
mircea_popescu: if the company you manage behaves as an approximation of a cockroach, your wife needs a divorce. ☟︎☟︎
kakobrekla: also unrelated, ex asseteer wences is now on board of director as paypal it seems ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 19:19:54; assbot: ISIS supporter joins Ammon Bundy’s armed occupation as resident computer expert ... ( http://bit.ly/22ZRB01 )
assbot: ISIS supporter joins Ammon Bundy’s armed occupation as resident computer expert ... ( http://bit.ly/22ZRB01 ) ☟︎
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo #VanillaISIS goes actual ISIS: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/isis-supporter-joins-ammon-bundys-armed-occupation-as-resident-computer-expert/ ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: (note that the proofs don't need to be about a commonlisp program per se, but anything that can be expressed as one)
mircea_popescu: The noise that was observed as random structure was not itself random. It contained topological order, a universal scale-free recipe for fitting together. Supercomputer simulation of 24,000 cerium atoms plus 8000 aluminum atoms with or without the topological footnote added is enlightening. Plot respective structure factors against the reciprocal space vector for each case. The curves are identical! Where is the inform
mircea_popescu: "Memory cannot be found because it is not localized, nor does it exist as such. One felicitous memory model is the amorphous glassy metal alloy Ce3Al. Melt-spun alloy passes all local and global tests (HRTEM, ED, XRD, 2D XRD) for random order. Load a diamond anvil cell with a 50x40x15 micron3 sample. At 3,539,000 psi it remains amorphous. At 3,626,000 psi it is a single crystal. Science 332(6036) 1404 (2011), "Long-ran
ascii_butugychag: (and not, as often supposed, medieval theology - as it did not have totalitarian apparatus attached)
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: arguably same process as lysenko
mircea_popescu: "Economists do the economy as psychologists do the mind. A watershed of data is statistically manipulated. Miserably intricate deeply parameterized speculative theory is fit to data, protected from criticism by complexity. Extrapolations are made. Official predictions are absurd versus observed reality. Economists scream "heteroskedasticity!" and demand multi-$trillion Federal bailouts. Psychologists disdain irrelevanc
ascii_butugychag: i was given it as a small child
ascii_butugychag: as, possibly, taleb, et al ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 16:09:36; mircea_popescu: "The scientist who receives a percentage of the profits - a percentage of the gross! - generated by his own work has yet to be born, hired, or envisioned (ecept as the punchline of a joke)." << heh, alf's been making 70% of the gross for years now.
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1369206 << l0l, he did say 'as the punchline..' !11 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "The scientist who receives a percentage of the profits - a percentage of the gross! - generated by his own work has yet to be born, hired, or envisioned (ecept as the punchline of a joke)." << heh, alf's been making 70% of the gross for years now. ☟︎
jurov: http://thehardtimes.net/2016/01/11/emerging-harsh-noise-artist-revealed-as-faulty-air-conditioning-unit/ hahaha ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and it extends almost twice as far away from the port in the south -west than i nthe north. a town the size of a respectable country.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1369090 << i've been doing this since '07, publicly. but as mircea_popescu points out, memento mori (tm), there is little time, and i have been doing other things ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as french hardware ?!
copypaste: North Korea has the most powerful economy and army in the World, as measured by The People's Bureau of Statistics of North Korea.
assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 01:14:54; gabriel_laddel: No lisper to date has produced a distro that DOES NOT CHANGE so one may use it as a platform for application development. Lisp solves a well-specified set of problems - ensuring that your algol reproducibly builds is not one of them.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-01-2016#1368871 << this makes roughly as much sense as 'cobol in lisp' ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: As for why a lisper didn't write his own OS from ASM? Well, you've read Stan's blog.
gabriel_laddel: No lisper to date has produced a distro that DOES NOT CHANGE so one may use it as a platform for application development. Lisp solves a well-specified set of problems - ensuring that your algol reproducibly builds is not one of them. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeah well... this logic is broken. so lisp is good because, and i quote, "Because Lisp, as a tool, is to the mind as the lever is to the arm. It amplifies your power and enables you to embark on projects beyond the scope of lesser languages like C. Writing in C is like building a mosaic out of lentils using a tweezer and glue. Lisp is like wielding an air gun with power and precision. It opens out whole kingdoms
phf: everything talks to xlib, win32, carbon/cocoa and on top of that to opengl, directx. there are parts of that stack implemented in lisp (either as clients or as hosts). there's no opengl in lisp, there's opengl client in lisp. there's both xlib client and server in lisp, etc. there's not enough lisp code to run the whole graphics stack from the lisp machine to the video card end to end
phf: mircea_popescu: here as in in #b-a
phf: mircea_popescu: i think that there's a bunch of people trying to chuck moore their way out of "modern computing" here, as such there's not native anything
phf: gabriel_laddel: i'm saying that it's only worthwhile to bring in zen if you want to ultimately do x11 support for foreign code. right now your problem is clim+xlib, you want your problem to be clim+xlib+zen+cl-opengl+glx. if the ultimate goal is drop x, then might as well try and retarget clim to framebuffer. the two (adding zen and framebuffer clim) or at 100% identical in the amount of effort
phf: also zen doesn't support most of the modern x11 extensions, that you might want for running something like firefox. in fact last time i checked it didn't support xrander, which is an old image composition extension that might as well be standard
phf: main problem with zen right now is that it does rendering, but it uses opengl (glx specifically) as the framebuffer. i've not looked at the implementation bits, but i assume that it goes beyond simple blit, so you might be able to retarget it to other opengl, but not necessarily straight to framebuffer, without implementing your own blit level rendering primitives
mircea_popescu: but be all this as it may, for as long as gossipd.pop | print yields ((1,2),(2,3)) for me while gossipd.pop | mathgraph yields whatever ascii wants it to yield, we're happy.
mircea_popescu: jurov there's a difference between a proper existing ast, such as we have with words, unless we're idiots ; and a random gcc barf product.
ascii_butugychag: but somehow this turned into 'let's do maths as euclid did, with WORDZ!111'
mircea_popescu: as long as what we do is we take ((1,2),(2,3)) and either print it as such or else draw it for your benefit as seen there, if you run a plug in everyone's happy.
mircea_popescu: and as such fucking burn it.
mircea_popescu: nothing, as long as you don't expect me to run the program
mircea_popescu: do you understand that your computer is broken by design for as long as you allow the conceptual possibility of adding symbols ?
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu prolly writes his electrical schematics as netlists every time, etc
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag you know that thing as displayed is actually meaningless.
mircea_popescu: currently what alf counts as "notation" for math is roughly speaking a sort of c++
trinque: as for music I prefer a tracker, or yes, writing code to produce it
ascii_butugychag: as in, preferred format for manipulation.
ascii_butugychat: or so much as attempt ?
ascii_butugychat: a proper language lets you make operators, as in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=103 where i solved mr mold's puzzle by turning a running cl into his language
jurov: symbolic shorthand is very useful for a mathematician who want to pack as much stuff as possible into his viewport/chalkboard
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 20:57:40; trinque: mircea_popescu │ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367833 << i can't discern which side you're taking. << the side with mostly (if not *entirely*) plain english, and even better, represented as an explicit tree with s-expressions. that one can parse the hieroglyphs when he's habituated to them... fine, but I thought we were after "fits in head" here. how much skull-space does that
ascii_butugychat: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1368591 << discussion was not solely about 'hieroglyphs', but even something as ordinary as matrix notation ☝︎
trinque: the comment about syntactic barriers was this, that if the hieroglyphs keep dummies from mauling the field (even as a happy accident), there are much better ways to push them out
trinque: mircea_popescu │ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-01-2016#1367833 << i can't discern which side you're taking. << the side with mostly (if not *entirely*) plain english, and even better, represented as an explicit tree with s-expressions. that one can parse the hieroglyphs when he's habituated to them... fine, but I thought we were after "fits in head" here. how much skull-space does that ☝︎☟︎
ascii_butugychag: 'Councilman Clinton J. Olivier... ...asked Dyer a simple question: “Could you run my threat level now?” Dyer agreed. The scan returned Olivier as a green, but his home came back as a yellow, possibly because of someone who previously lived at his address, a police official said.'
ascii_butugychag: 'As officers respond to calls, Beware automatically runs the address. The searches return the names of residents and scans them against a range of publicly available data to generate a color-coded threat level for each person or address: green, yellow or red.'
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 19:44:32; mircea_popescu: it was actuallyt about ~same as a car.