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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: astronomical rents, i suspect, also play a part. it is ~impossible to stay open if you stock anything that doesn't move continuously. specialist shops are the first to die. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i assume we're speaking of a iso power cord ?

ben_vulpes: last time i could be assured of walking out the door and getting a tool (not part!) that i needed was in nyc

lobbes: It took some explaining to Best Buy lady on the phone that I a) was not looking for laptop power cord and b) I didn't need the whole power supply, just the cord

ben_vulpes: sure; i recently got 2 pair of tall jackstands, delivered to house, for ~.6 the cost of item at store which was even shorter

asciilifeform: and they're right. it can't be had , i suspect, on this entire shore, in shops. ( for various values of 'it' )

asciilifeform: the message i got errywhere was, unspokenly, 'you gotta be deeply mentally ill to be buying this not on www'

ben_vulpes: be damned if i'm going to drive around all day on the offchance they have a thing

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i somehow get 'em to leave the register and check inventory manually

lobbes: There's something to this "locals blinded by pretense fall into uselessness" heuristic, I think

a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 20:33 mircea_popescu: i dun recall EVER hearing "carolina is the suck" in local drawl ; but people from ohio will literally ask you "what, and you came here ?!" as if they can't conceive anyone who isn't born there being found there even momentarily.

lobbes: This was precisely my experience. I remember thinking how *refreshing* it was to come out of the heart of pantsuitlandia (taxachusetts) where everyone was up their own ass in "we are so progressive and enlightened.", to ohio where everyone was "yeah... we pretty much suck. Sorry you have to be here" >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812483 ☝︎

danielpbarron: !Q later tell hanbot http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/4x7iw/?raw=true << i also had to make changes in some other file. there's one that makes the form and another that receives the POST data

mircea_popescu: i dun recall EVER hearing "carolina is the suck" in local drawl ; but people from ohio will literally ask you "what, and you came here ?!" as if they can't conceive anyone who isn't born there being found there even momentarily. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: lobbes, incidentally, i've noticed the people's subjective reported dissatisfaction is one of the best proxies for local suckitude. ~100% of romanians agreed that romania sucks, 1988, and as a result romania went from ~gabon to ~austria in 30 years. meanwhile columbia people agreed with themselves "they love their country", and columbia went from columbia to columbia in the interval. nicaragua idem.

lobbes: But teh weather here is so much better, so I can't complain too much I guess

lobbes: I will say, I've lived in New England, Ohio, and now here. And, believe it or not, imo the people of Ohio trump the usefulness of people here by a large margin

mircea_popescu: and i still complain of how fucking rural they are.

mircea_popescu: heh. it occurs to me i've not lived in a city smaller than 1mn in YEARS

lobbes: Few weeks ago I was trying to buy a power supply cable and didn't want to wait for lulazon to ship. Tried half-dozen local shops, both "big box retailers" and "mom n pop computer stores"; -none- had any in stock >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812272 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 16:25 mircea_popescu: in strict, physical terms. i can peel a coupla bills off the roll way before anyone can a) take the card b) orient it to machine slit ; c) slide it through ; d) wait for data to run back and forth to visa servers (include here the pro-rated delay of "servers down" shenanigans) ; e) get me to "sign" like 1100 period barbarians the f) slip of paper it printed and spit out etc.

hanbot: hey danielpbarron (or any other mp-wp users with 'classic' theme goin'), assuming you're using mp's antispam, wouldja mind pasting your themes/classic/comments.php for me so i can see how you're handling the $suffix? differs from the 'default' i'm using, but i'd like to include a fix for it in a comments patch.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812441 << ~same play gets put on regularly, i dun even recall just which # iteration this one is ☝︎

mircea_popescu: phf, i thought dakar is in africa.

phf: ben_vulpes: i'd say 1/3 of image search results is with that thing airborne

ben_vulpes: take me out to the deeesert/romp around on the flaaaats/burning oil and lighting off guns/fuck all the liberals i'm gonna have fun/cause it's root root root for the germans/if the diesels get neutered it's a shaaaaaame/cause it's one! two! three! strikes you're out in the us! penitentiary! game!

asciilifeform: https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/auditing-github-users-keys << the horse's mouth re ^ ; orig article by the orig 'henninger' who 'did' the experiment (i.e. experiment-stopper ) and (not)published

mircea_popescu: also very large cacti count as "wooden" in this sense. but i mean gimme a break, yes wood is supposed to float, but not in acetone ffs.

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, anyway, yeah, the "wood"... i mean they have all these overgrown grasses which to ~them~ appear woody, but taking an axe to a palm is not so unlike taking down a movie set in anger.

asciilifeform: ( i'm betting, it's on reddit somewhere )

asciilifeform: ( i still have nfi, fwiw, who/where linked to it, to which heathens, possibly from mircea_popescu's logs later we will know some of it ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( i suppose they ended up with the boecking job this time )

mircea_popescu: "it will ruin your shit. literally, by which i mean anally."

mircea_popescu: "do you drink and drive ?" "yes. i drink -- she drives."

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, also not the same flora here. the wood is about half-value if i had to guess, caloric-wise.

mircea_popescu: charcoal sack is now a mandatory car trunk item. at the rate i'm going i might actually next buy a truck.

mircea_popescu: i am a convert to the method.

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nono, i exaggerate, grossly. that said, i haven't figured out how to bake a chicken without a cloud of chicken-scent emerging and permeating the domus on every basting.

mircea_popescu: i must say im really impressed with phuctor 3.0 webatron. sensibly more responsive than prev.

mircea_popescu: i mean, that nut with the "mac on cheese on pizza awesum!" is actually adventurous and far sighted with reference to her peer group. sad as that may sound.

ben_vulpes: I HUNGER FOR LOLS

asciilifeform: hm i misremembered, the most famous incident, in kramatorsk ('80s) involved a cs-137 brick.

mircea_popescu: lol. i heard the legends.

ben_vulpes: motherfucker because i want to dump my entire heated air mass every time the girl fries something

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'll do you one just a hair more ridiculous: this place has a whole-house evacuator that "well you can just run the whole-house fan when you're cooking!"

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: believe or not, none of the places i've ever lived in, had a 'honest' kitchen exhaust (i.e. with actual pipe to the outside world)

ben_vulpes: (how the kitchen came to be without a hood is a mystery i do not think i shall ever understand, given that the dood ran cat5 and coax to every room. what, no women cooking in his life or something?)

ben_vulpes: interesting; i've got to install a hood in the kitchen; so will learn the truth without any electronics.

mircea_popescu: ridoinculous beeping doohickey, too. i was like "so... is it a boy ?"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, oh oh, i gorfot.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, check me out, i made it, security researcher now.

asciilifeform: (i.e. bleichenbacher-able )

ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-5-11#353878 << i found one made of brick! couldn't believe the thermal inertia.

mircea_popescu: in strict, physical terms. i can peel a coupla bills off the roll way before anyone can a) take the card b) orient it to machine slit ; c) slide it through ; d) wait for data to run back and forth to visa servers (include here the pro-rated delay of "servers down" shenanigans) ; e) get me to "sign" like 1100 period barbarians the f) slip of paper it printed and spit out etc. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 15:42 mircea_popescu: "the RSA supercollider and numerical observatory" << ahahaha i like this. a numerical observatory.

mircea_popescu: oh, i know.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> funnily enuff i got stuck behind one of these in a little shop in BingoBoingostan : the lulz was in that the modem in the register was slow enuff that cc folx were ~slower~ than ones paying with ordinary money << Serious quality of life issue here. The awful part is the locals CAN'T learn to use the pin pads and have to try 3+ times

asciilifeform: cubicle hells still cement, for nao, but i already spotted a few new constructions with gypsum outer walls

asciilifeform: funnily enuff i got stuck behind one of these in a little shop in BingoBoingostan : the lulz was in that the modem in the register was slow enuff that cc folx were ~slower~ than ones paying with ordinary money

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, indeed. i tell you, i don't see it. the arguments from 2016 prevail, making the ssh-style correct imo.

asciilifeform: i did not cite $thread in the american judge 'we already precedented!11' sense, but in 'let's reread'

mircea_popescu: i'd like to review this, i've been thinking about this nonsense ever since you started making noises about the ssh set.

asciilifeform: i seem to recall a thread where mircea_popescu convincingly described 'self signatures are meaningless'

a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 13:46 asciilifeform: nao ! at some point i'ma rewrite it. again. and build it around 'naked' rsa moduli, and with variant types of indices, etc. but i have nfi when i will get a chance to do this.

mircea_popescu: well, it's mutual ; i also see what you mean.

mircea_popescu: still, do you see what i mean ?

asciilifeform: the ones that come out of Framedragger's, jurov's, and then asciilifeform's , scripts, i mean

mircea_popescu: "the RSA supercollider and numerical observatory" << ahahaha i like this. a numerical observatory. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i suspect they were wondering whether there's a dylsexic agnostic insomniac.

mircea_popescu: btw hanbot, i noticed last night the dogs were lying awake.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at some near future point i'ma put in a 'strange exponents' zoo

a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 09:42 ave1: I have a key with e==35! This one was generated 9 years ago on a redhat linux of that period.

spyked: ah, I didn't think that far yet. I wanna submit some of the ssh keys I have lying around (or see if they were previously submitted).

a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 03:59 asciilifeform: i.e. retrieve all https://github.com/luser.keys , for all known values of luser

asciilifeform: ( i do not know how precisely jurov did it, but can think of several ways )

a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 09:42 ave1: I have a key with e==35! This one was generated 9 years ago on a redhat linux of that period.

asciilifeform: nao ! at some point i'ma rewrite it. again. and build it around 'naked' rsa moduli, and with variant types of indices, etc. but i have nfi when i will get a chance to do this. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 08:51 spyked: ^ would also like to try $feature. digging through the logs for this, I found http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-16#1671042 , but unfortunately link is broken

BingoBoingo: Holy shit, I wake up with FAR less crackling in my lungs AND a milestone on the path to reddit bags for the reading!

spyked: or was it 2008. I dun remember exactly.

ave1: I have a key with e==35! This one was generated 9 years ago on a redhat linux of that period. ☟︎☟︎

spyked: ^ would also like to try $feature. digging through the logs for this, I found http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-16#1671042 , but unfortunately link is broken ☝︎☟︎

spyked: (ftr, /me has read some of dood's work, he seems well-regarded by ro math/logic ppl; unfortunately too ensconced in grantola, sorta the bernstein type I guess)

a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 18:40 mircea_popescu: meanwhile lulzdraft upgraded with a "i think i know his mom", also. ima go have lunch, this is a monster.

mircea_popescu: well, put the rockchip to the test i guess.

ave1: I can bash script. But I've never scraped in any real volume. So if anybody has hints to servers that can be used for this...

ave1: And unhappening, I cannot find the broken keys on github... (Also bitbucket ssh-key api gives errors)

mircea_popescu: i suppose in the end that's what phantom.js is doing anywya.

lobbes: But, once I learn to properly represent www as ASTs we can have the beginnings of a proper republican archive

lobbes: mircea_popescu: curl will get the 'https://archive.is/AvNme,' but the thing I'm running downloads the 'https://archive.is/download/AvNme.zip'

mircea_popescu: but i mean... for what part ? plain curl will fetch the page.

lobbes: oh yeah, I've had the automated downloading thing going for months

lobbes: yeah sorry, I'm sleep deprived. I remembered I only need the phantom js shit for the -download- portion, not submit

ben_vulpes: there is, or was i don't really care to look, something named like that in portland too: "The Open Sourcery"

mod6: I love this post.

mircea_popescu: i'll have to get back to you on that.

asciilifeform: i.e. retrieve all https://github.com/luser.keys , for all known values of luser ☟︎

asciilifeform: some of the lusers ( i specifically did not bother with exhaustive survey ) swapped keyz since '16, others -- not

asciilifeform: i assume it's for the pingback feature

mircea_popescu: i put some clearing elements in.