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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yeah, i just lost interest in smoking altogether.
mircea_popescu: but it's been months, the cigars been piling up, eventually i turned off the supply... and well...
mircea_popescu: for two decades i've been smoking, maybe once or twice a week, or so.
mircea_popescu: you know i kinda lost that ?
lobbes: asciilifeform: I posed the same "why not take tolerance break" q to them as well. They claim "doesn't work" but I suspect they simply didn't wait long enough
mircea_popescu: "i was born without legs, ma'am."
lobbes: I will note that some of the moar chronic (decade + of "smoke all day every day") $potusers I know can no longer get high off of the leaves; need the refined "dabs". >> (+asciilifeform) [16:31:35] which one of these , pot-growing is closer to , i'ma leave to the folx who know
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i recall the piece. can't currently picture how it applies to pot tho -- it isn't 'performance dope'
asciilifeform: which one of these , pot-growing is closer to , i'ma leave to the folx who know
mircea_popescu: the $200 bottle of whiskey is a product of the EXACT same process as "i have a bf, why would i be your slave" patriotism. there is no whiskey extant today, ever existent in history or ever to be devises worth more than $2 a galon. for the very simple and strictly unassailable reason that grain alcohol is one step above wood alcohol, and approximately equal to gasoline.
asciilifeform: the demise of the horse, i suspect, seemed equally improbable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i cannot comment on the probability. only re the possibility ( it seems -- possible. )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, entirely improbable. alcohol ~is even the reason america exists~, i'll point out ; the driver for slave trade was sugar cane not cotton, historically, and so on.
asciilifeform: you need a ~$500k (turkeydollar) plant, to do it the adult way. and i suspect that there are not 500k of turkeydollar between them atm. ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812886 << in actual industry ( as opposed to garage dope kitchen ) essential oils are extracted with supercritical co2, rather than petrochem ( i expected that ben_vulpes would know this ) ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I would estimate when I left old country that in my area ~25% of nicotine users had transtioned to the vapes for the majority of their nicotine ingestion
asciilifeform: ( i.e. some folx will pick it up, but no visible dent on traditional tobacco market )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect it will be same dynamic as with the battery-powered nicotine thing
a111: Logged on 2018-05-13 04:05 ben_vulpes: anyways this is a solvable problem and it's being solved by the people i told how to solve it by refining the otherwise excess product into shelf-stable distillates and offering lines of credit securitized by the refined product at market prices just like any other asset
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-13#1812908 << i suspect possible case of 'never say never'; in usa there are traders in... whiskey securities; and 'arbitrary names' abound (scotch, bourbon, etc) ; possible that in e.g. californistan , old man ethyl will give way to the green leaf as 'primary dope' and same agricultural-financial mechanics will apply to the new as did to the old ☝︎
mod6: i really need to wrap my head around some of this stuff; no excuses.
mod6: ahh. part of the whole thing is, even after all this time, im still pretty non-clued on the whole portage usage. i guess, one-adventure-at-a-time, im learning more.
mod6: ah. if you built the rockchips with that, i bet it would then, ya. yesterday, i was wondering which old one you must hvae used.
asciilifeform: mod6: if you still feel like experimenting , i'ma bet stage3-amd64-20161219.tar.bz2 ( the amd64 version of the arm64 stage3 i built the rockchip pilot plant image from ) will work 100%
mod6: I did get one of the boxes installed so far with 4.9.4 GCC from an old stage3. Interestingly the stage3 from 2015 was too old (was complaining about EAPI things), but my other old stage3 from 20170316 was still ok.
ben_vulpes: i will take this rebuke and mull it over with my kindleberger
ben_vulpes: perhaps i misunderstand, but when i think "securitized" i think "brent" and the forsakeofargument "bvulpes reserve-grade distillate", which anyone can produce from flower if their heads are screwed on with more than 2 threads
a111: Logged on 2018-05-12 21:57 mod6: We need exactly that, but something that yields an actual working box. I was unaware that since apparently last year, the wreckers junked us.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: granted, it's a single level of biorefinement, but it's a 'lithium' for the folks who refuse to take their ballas-prescribed sedatives, preferring for whatever reason, the "natural stuff". i'm not saying it's not a pink-sheet securitizable, but that standards for the commoditized (and inevitably, securitized) product (thus and such cbd, that and so thc, viscosities of whatever, optical
mircea_popescu: they suck at everything equally, if they manage to actually inhale 10% i count it a good month.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i can't follow your logic. how do you explain eg cowrie shells not being a "securitizable asset" by this same logic ?
BingoBoingo: I imagine if you are in Oregon the winning move is to export
ben_vulpes: anyways this is a solvable problem and it's being solved by the people i told how to solve it by refining the otherwise excess product into shelf-stable distillates and offering lines of credit securitized by the refined product at market prices just like any other asset ☟︎
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: oh i suggest you go look into hardesty
mod6: I thought the second way would work, and in fact `gcc-config -l` does report : x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.8.4 ; however, it seems like none of the ebuilds would work with a stage3 that old.
mod6: The second way, I just tried was with a stage3 from 2015: stage3-amd64-nomultilib-20150716.tar.bz2
mod6: Well, I've gotten stuck 2 different times. The first way was with a stage3 from yesterday, which, the install worked, but left me with GCC-6.4.0.
asciilifeform: now ~these~ i have not yet touched.
ben_vulpes: girthy spittoon, i still don't understand how the overlays of trinque's musl overlay work properly; not even really which knobs to pull
asciilifeform: my point was, rockchip gentoo was made with 0 gcc reversion gymnastics, all i needed was a vintage stage4 tarball , and my blacklist
ben_vulpes: this is factually incorrect, i have removed gcc6 and 5 from gentoos built with modern stage3.
mod6: alright, im gonna see if I can get ben_vulpes' downgrade dance to do the trick.
mod6: We need exactly that, but something that yields an actual working box. I was unaware that since apparently last year, the wreckers junked us. ☟︎
trinque: I'd rather get a v-tree of our own portage going than continue to flail at the empire's ceaseless breakage.
mod6: I'm trying to build up two machines so I can do some trb testing with rawtx, et. al. Kinda hung until I can get an OS installed.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-14 03:13 trinque: diana_coman: regarding your cuntoo build problem, net-tools upstream has apparently broken build on default gcc-4.9.4. If I pass -std=gnu99, the definer of IFNAMSIZ is included and the thing builds.
trinque: ben_vulpes: I'm awaiting the new V before I re-release that. I'll update the article if you like.
mod6: I'm having a reaaaaaly hard time installing gentoo with a gcc4 now.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-02#1461007 << you know, i wouldn't even call it lulz. "Система проверяет применение для начальных коэффициентов составных чисел и выявляет использование в разных ключах одинаковых цикличных коэффициентов (модуль), что может указывать на во ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 00:25 mircea_popescu: if i were you folk i would very seriously be looking at geting refinanced, taking ~300 rockchips there and filling a dozen us with them.
ben_vulpes: hm yeah how did i have this thing eat random text
mircea_popescu: i guess this'll take some more tinkering.
ben_vulpes: i crunched some numbers, and i think it's going to cost around 3 btc to put the production rockchip plant together and get it down south, all based on 4 2U's with 24 rockchippen each, transpo of ~2.5kusd and per-chassis fab costs of ~800usd. i think with the outrageous success of the rockchip pilot plant pizarro's in a *great* spot to refinance per mircea_popescu's suggestion, to provide for the production
BingoBoingo: <fromdeedbot> I mean globally << What part of moving from Southern Illinois to Uruguay on WoT fuel isn't global? Gotta circumnavigate or something?
fromdeedbot: What do you guys have against Ethereum (if anything, maybe i am not rembering the logs correctly)
fromdeedbot: I saw that but was distracted while reading
fromdeedbot: I am of the belief that things will move this direction naturally
fromdeedbot: lol.. I have looked a lot into estomia e-citizen program as well
fromdeedbot: or am i that late
fromdeedbot: I mean globally
fromdeedbot: I thinlk that this type of system could change the way we define “percieved value” and even credit
mircea_popescu: so i take it you read http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ ?
mircea_popescu: reminds me of this chick on fetlife, "So you don't want to have a smart discuss, you're here for what ? What do you research here ? Because I'm agree with your description." ☟︎
fromdeedbot: that is exactly I why I read them… you guys have came up with a really cool thing
fromdeedbot: I have to admit I have not read them in full, and if that is a pre req, I will.
fromdeedbot: well google landed me on your logs when I was researching the whole wiki leeks thing and how it related to bitcoin
fromdeedbot: ha! I kinda like it low key, but I’m not “from deedbot” in the way people might think… this is the only channel that I use tghis Nick
fromdeedbot: and I figured i’d break my silence here
fromdeedbot: I been lol
mircea_popescu: i guess you'll have to do a bunch of log reading.
fromdeedbot: I have been blown away by blockchains use of public private key
fromdeedbot: hah, that’s good advice. noted…. As far as what to express specifically, I’m not sure exactly yet, but this has always interested me and I have waited long enpough
mircea_popescu: hey, i don't mind. but understand that avoiding bad habits is a lifelong uncompletable task, there's no magic pill that'll keep you safe from such. certainly contemplation from outside isn't much of one.
fromdeedbot: It interests me more and more every day… but it is overwhelming where to begin and I dont want to start bad habits
fromdeedbot: because I have been into computers for a long time and I feel like I could contribute productive elements to the community if i knew how to exoress my ideas in the right languge
fromdeedbot: i would like to start as low level as i can without overdoing it
fromdeedbot: I want to learn to code/program. I am looking for sound advice on what to learn first. php? oop? python? I have looked all over the web and it seems everyone has a different opinion. any advice would be appredciated
mircea_popescu: and this is also why ~nobody of any consequence reads any of them. i'd rather read engelbert humperdinck's introduction to greek philosophy. at least he sings, which, unrelated as it may be, IS WAY THE FUCK MORE THAN ANY OF THESE IDLE FUCKTARDS EVER DID. or will ever do.
hanbot: i never thought about it that way. though it seems evident once stated.
danielpbarron: hanbot, i didn't start with the official v wp-wp. i had a very old original .tar.gz
mircea_popescu: hanbot, i suppose the answer would be asciilifeform 's "bottle". consider this place -- there's people who come and read the logs. every day, in the morning or in the evening or whatever. there's people who write code, there's people who do all kinds of stuff. where were they BEFORE ? they did physically exist, yes, you can't say "nowhere". so then ?
danielpbarron: i've made so many modifications to mp-wp it's like dpb-wp now
danielpbarron: i should say, the linked item is only comments.php ; if you can find the other file i'll send that one too, i don't recall which one it was
lobbesbot: hanbot: Sent 6 hours and 21 minutes ago: <danielpbarron> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/4x7iw/?raw=true << i also had to make changes in some other file. there's one that makes the form and another that receives the POST data
mircea_popescu: in short, the diminutively tiny list of people who, to quote one among them, "I took evening classes from the institute via phone. (I half-listened while clicking through lolcat photos.)"... what difference can they possibly make, to anyone ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-11 17:10 asciilifeform: ( i still have nfi, fwiw, who/where linked to it, to which heathens, possibly from mircea_popescu's logs later we will know some of it )
asciilifeform: ( why this is possible, i do not now remember, if anyone does -- plox to write in. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a classic luleffect, rubble ~always~ on wrong side within certain radius of epicenter ( i forget exactly what slice ) because it comes from ~vacuum~ suck
asciilifeform: not a fan of almond cake, i take it...
asciilifeform: i bet d00d is pissed, too, phone rang and nao he has to crank out the fud, rather than his light daily routine of nsa.burning xen 'bugs'
asciilifeform: just when i was about to think 'where is boeck! has he died'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do remember that glorious rooftop surgery. With birds that could be heard by not seen
mircea_popescu: i guess. though i suspect it's a sad life to play the transvestite as only avenue to getting laid.
mircea_popescu: this is entirely not different from both "i know obscenity when i see it" and "hi i named rajshit from injun and can moderate your tube sir!"
mircea_popescu: i am unpersuaded by this theory.
mircea_popescu: i don't think there was ever a system "dedicated to man" that managed to get man to think, though. man will not think, would rather take rape than math questions.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: people -- read. ( and to some extent even in modern ru, this survives, it is actually possible to stay afloat economically there as a non-crown-anointed - i.e. not-'bestsellerlist' writer, even today )
ben_vulpes: designed by su department of designing The Right Car, i mean
ben_vulpes: perhaps i misconcieve of the industrial processes, and could benefit from experience, but i labor under the apprehension that there was "teh one su car, designed by su factory" whereas american product is "ten stanford cucks who think the exact same way writing the exact same banking app that chase will release as a feature in two years, written by their peers who took salaries instead of grahams
asciilifeform: i dun think i ever met those