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psztorc: So I just shelved it...unlike
TC/HM,
the watered-down version required some community buy-in, so I knew it was DoA.
psztorc: I know,
that's why I proposed rushing out a very very simple version which outright relied on multisig for
the 2-way-peg and
the price-oracle input.
adlai: psztorc:
the problem with basing
this rather-necessary
tool on
TC/HM is
that
the latter doesn't exist yet...
adlai: but funkenstein_ is holding some for him, if
that altchain even exists outside of his computer
☟︎ ascii_butugychag: psztorc: before
the split,
the alt does not exist in any sense
psztorc: This one let you exchange
the coins, *before*
the fork actually split
them into
two Altcoins.
psztorc: The plan was
to rush out a
tiny version of
Truthcoin/Hivemind , now I'm just going
to wait for
the full
thing
to be done.
adlai: psztorc: out of curiosity, did anything ever come of plans
to build a market for exchanging such coins? rather
than manually arbitraging between businesses on either side
☟︎ psztorc: BingoBoingo: you see,
that's
the
thing when it comes
to death
threats,
though.
☟︎ ascii_butugychag: folks who want
to convert
their btc into a usg-alt
that mircea_popescu will sell 1,000,000 of for a penny each
the day of
the phork, can go ahead any
time...
adlai should maybe have used Y for
the soft limit example;
these are different parameters, and until miners start wasting
their own money
to back up
these claims,
the claims might as well be plaintext on a webpage for all Bitcoin cares
psztorc: This has
two larges exchanges as well.
psztorc: I bring it up because it is in contrast
to XT, which no one really liked.
☟︎ punkman: o hey
there's gavin in dev list
psztorc: I am aware of
the relative lack-of-influence of miners in
this case.
adlai: "hard limit" = MAX_BLOCK_SIZE === "I don't accept a block larger
than X", soft limit = relevant only for miners === "I produce blocks up
to X"
BingoBoingo: psztorc: Mebbe
this reliable friend would be interested in an interview?
adlai: psztorc: i'm more interested in measuring
the seismic
trembles as miners agonize over raising
their soft limit past 1MB... ie, being
the guinea pig
that expends
their own hashpower-hours
to verify whether or not it's all a fluffy bluff
psztorc: According
to a reliable friend,
they already have 40% committed, and according
to a different friend,
the Chinese miners will agree
to join
the 40%.
BingoBoingo: <psztorc> So, "bitcoin classic", with a 2 MB blocksize limit, is likely
to have >60% hashrate at
this
time
tomorrow. << Where does
this spz come from? I just woke up.
thestringpuller: i can confirm from my experience with kerbal space program, it's much more dramatic reentering
the atmospher
than leaving it
psztorc: Maybe
they're very quiet when
they
take off.
ascii_butugychag: psztorc: 'dramatic' is not when
the rockets go up, but when
they come down.
BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> << li poly batt. has no memory effect. but what it does have is rapid cycle wear (and evens shelf rot) << /me seriously interested on data on catalytic caps for FeNi batteries, for 2025 wizard
tower
adlai: thestringpuller: compare
to shakuhachi
tradition, where a song isn't "yours" until you've a)
tweaked out your own version, and b)
taught it
to your students
adlai has probably spent more hours playing music
than writing lisp, although
the
trends seem headed for a reversal in a couple years
thestringpuller: it wasn't until someone was bored enough
to write
the
thing down
that you got Fake Books and stuff of
the "American Song Book"
psztorc: Very interesting
that you are
talking about music
theory.
psztorc: So, "bitcoin classic", with a 2 MB blocksize limit, is likely
to have >60% hashrate at
this
time
tomorrow.
☟︎☟︎ thestringpuller: from my studies, I
thought
that jazz musicians routinely passed down songs via audition rather
than sight (via score).
☟︎ thestringpuller: LOL ascii_butugychag sounds like my piano
teacher! (who is also russian). "Who needs score? Play jazz learn from memory"
ascii_butugychag: or simply derping about, prescribing
tools for folks who actually ~do~, as if proposing stalls for cattle ?
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 16:48:30; adlai: clef notation is worse
than useless, because it sparks endless bikeshedding about whether E sharp "ever is or could be equal
to" F
adlai: eg, ask a
trumpet player
to
transpose
to G sharp
adlai: bonus points if
they can sight-transpose...
triple bonus if
they can do it in
the direction unnatural for
their instrument's historic bias
adlai: the highest per-minute income for a serious 'session musician' is
their sightreading ability
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 16:33:39; mircea_popescu: and if ytou
think anyone reads
those fucking
things while being directed...
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> in case its not clear BingoBoingo i'm a fan of your work <<
ty ben_vulpes
adlai: clef notation is worse
than useless, because it sparks endless bikeshedding about whether E sharp "ever is or could be equal
to" F
☟︎☟︎ ascii_butugychag: (he has
the virtue of not building
towers of own shit, like farm swine, but
that's
the beginning and end of it)
☟︎ ascii_butugychag: no amount of 'will!11111', virility, non-pencildickery, counts for ~shit~ if you have no soul. beasts of
the motherfucking field,
the lot of'em.
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 14:01:05; mircea_popescu: "In connection with
the offer of
the above securities,
the Stabilising Manager(s) may over-allot
the securities or effect
transactions with a view
to supporting
the market price of
the securities at a level higher
than
that which might otherwise prevail. "
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 13:58:38; mircea_popescu: i have absolutely no idea what
these bundy dudes must be
thinking
to elevate
the usg charade into relevancy
through participating. but
then again... can't
trust one
to
think
that's not got a pubkey, can you.
mircea_popescu: and if ytou
think anyone reads
those fucking
things while being directed...
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 13:32:43; mircea_popescu: "f course, a full charge won't be
that important most days," << god fucking help
them once memory effects and other such
things start
taking a
toll.
the full prospect should read " As previously announced,
the Bolt's 288 cells will be able
to go over 200 miles on a full charge about 20 or so
times. Good fucking luck with your new disposable car!"
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "women doing a shitty job fucking are doing it in
the bedroom"
ascii_butugychag: the folks writing
those, are not doing it on
the
train
to/from day job.
ascii_butugychag: 'For private sharing, Scuttlebot uses libsodium
to encrypt confidential log-entries.'
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 07:38:29; ben_vulpes: jokes
through
the roof
mircea_popescu: "In connection with
the offer of
the above securities,
the Stabilising Manager(s) may over-allot
the securities or effect
transactions with a view
to supporting
the market price of
the securities at a level higher
than
that which might otherwise prevail. "
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 07:01:02;
Tomiii: Hello, does anyone know how you make a bunch of GPG private keys from a single Seed? like you can do with bitcon wallet?
mircea_popescu: i have absolutely no idea what
these bundy dudes must be
thinking
to elevate
the usg charade into relevancy
through participating. but
then again... can't
trust one
to
think
that's not got a pubkey, can you.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "Amanda Peacher @amandapeacher · 11h11 hours ago Burns mayor
to Bundys: "Our community does not want you here." Big applause. #Oregonstandoff111 retweets 118 likes " "Amanda Peacher @amandapeacher · 11h11 hours ago Packed house for
tonight's community mtg in Burns about
the #Oregonstandoff. " << yeah, i'm sure it was packed. all with
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1366965 ☝︎ assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 06:18:05; ben_vulpes: my personal phone goal is an engineering
team
that is on call so
that i don't have
to have a phone
mircea_popescu: "i know... we'll offshore everything
to china and live off a '''service economy'''.
then we won't bother getting off
the couch. win-win!"
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 06:02:19; pete_dushenski: some fat needs
to be
trimmed around here, whether
that idjits going back
to wherever
the fuck
they came from (ftr no one is "from" alberta) or
they can learn
that business isn't
this
thing where money and clients rain down from
the sky and it's all you can do
to beat
them back at
the door
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 05:51:38; punkman: even if you hate
the Unicode folks,
they have actually codified a lot of
these
things and it mostly seems
to work
mircea_popescu: "f course, a full charge won't be
that important most days," << god fucking help
them once memory effects and other such
things start
taking a
toll.
the full prospect should read " As previously announced,
the Bolt's 288 cells will be able
to go over 200 miles on a full charge about 20 or so
times. Good fucking luck with your new disposable car!"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: do you mean "this" manner, as in
the latter ? or actually "that" manner, as in
the former.
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2016 05:28:22;
trinque: why create syntactic barriers
to understanding when you can just kill
the folks you don't want in your math club, anyway
mircea_popescu: "the square of
the length of
the hypotenuse is equal
to
the sum of
the square of
the catheti", for
the curious. kids
the world over (in
those places with an actual culture, as opposed
to hunter-gatherer societies of primitives) actually learn
this by heart, and it's one of
the first steps on
the stair
they ever meet.
mircea_popescu: but so far we doth not even agree on
the historical facts
mircea_popescu: the alphabetic greeks overtook
the hyeroglyphic egyptioans. for
this reason and
this alone.
mircea_popescu: looky : neither
the egyptians nor
the greeks were mathematically zeroes.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> BUT if
the product was any good, it always got redone and
typeset properly << "if
the product were any good it was always mass produced". hurr.
mircea_popescu: so let it be said :
that alphabet can NAME way more
things
than your symbolics can ever dream
to represent. and for
that matter,
that from
the multi-millenarian history of world culture, alphabetic notation does indeed convey richer, more numerous ideas in less space
than hyeroglypghics do. which is why we fucked
the chinese, and why egypt is muslim now.