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asciilifeform: and i'd prefer that the next heartbleed ends up fetching rubbish from ram of dedicated toilet, rather than errywhere.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rright but the curl bin oughta statically contain whatever's required. nomoar /etc/..../greekgov.cert plox.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-05#1793409 << past thread on subj. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ideally such a thing would live on a dedicated box on lan, working as proxy (heathen-facing on the fetching end, plain http on the operator's)
asciilifeform: i can see an argument for keeping a cut-down version (perhaps trb's) around on ~some~ boxen , simply for curl-for-fetching-heathen-www, but that's about it.
asciilifeform: it isn't worth salvage.
asciilifeform: ( the lib itself is a hairball , not unlike winblowz, i pointed this out even before 'heartbleed' etc., in e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1299 )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: sslism cannot be terraformed and rebuilt for any constructive use, imho. it must die.
asciilifeform: a major function of sslism is to hinder ~user~ from examining ~own~ packets. this must end.
asciilifeform: but let's dispense with the pretense that 'sekoor'
asciilifeform: a patched curl that satisfies sslistic remote end, by whatever hook and crook, might be useful (for archiving etc) also.
asciilifeform: recently i was going through by hand in list of what's in my rk gentoo, and holyfuq, 'root cert of greek gov' etc. disgraceful.
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu reminds me , trinque : here's an idea, let's banish the 'root certs' and any systemwide sslism from cuntoo. if user demands it , let him install locally. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: test anyffing you can think of.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: fwiw fg is not affected by resets; but i won't presume ever to tell anybody not to test theirs ( personally i only 'is it still there?' on machine boot, but thats just me )
asciilifeform will bbl: meat.
asciilifeform can picture it
asciilifeform: specif from colonial period ?
asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: could've sworn we had this one
asciilifeform: !#s truda
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: !#s nauka
asciilifeform: ( sometimes seems like odin created ro so as to make a set of falsecognates for ru folx to trip on )
asciilifeform: falsecognate eh
asciilifeform: but certainly fewer folx know about it.
asciilifeform: dunno how much moar cheerful is current mine
asciilifeform: yea recognized
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is -eaga equiv to the ru equiv. suffix ? ( i.e. '--poorbastard' . e.g. бродяга ~= 'poor wandering bastard' )
asciilifeform: i think that may have been the 1st full length ro lit asciilifeform was able to eat
asciilifeform: poor bator!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fefeleaga ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun expect that you'll find
asciilifeform: i guess not so much gulag in ro
asciilifeform: )
asciilifeform: ( orig was pun. lit. 'one reaching the end of the road', but not errybody knows that it was a '30s play on 'доходим до социализма' slogan
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu how do i say доходяга in ro ?
asciilifeform: 'hey n00b, i already worked 3mo of the expected 3.5 life'
asciilifeform: it's like a senior U sifter at butugychag.
asciilifeform: 'доходяга'
asciilifeform tries to picture 'senior' ruby dev
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: could be substantially cheaper (no bakshish)
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: before i buy the pile tomorrow, see if the item can be sourced from the same join where you magicked forth the uart
asciilifeform: lel
asciilifeform: (incl fg)
asciilifeform: diana_coman also be sure to test yours
asciilifeform: neato
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: mod6: congrats
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm at least a little surprised to hear that any of'em paid anyffing
asciilifeform: !Q later tell BingoBoingo at your earliest convenience, plox to gpggram current postage addr, i can order these with own hands
asciilifeform: mod6: got it
asciilifeform: lol loox like 2014-style 'mining bond' sad sacks
asciilifeform: ( baking asics is a pretty straight way to bank on rising btcusd )
asciilifeform: the asic folx did get a certain amt of lift from self-mining and the rising usd exch figure
asciilifeform: can't currently think of how else.
asciilifeform: could be, friedcat et al had 4 daughters to put as collateral.
asciilifeform: maybe cn similar.
asciilifeform: in '90s ru derps were able to borrow from newly-baked banks. at 20%. backed with soldering iron and wife.
asciilifeform: but i do not know
asciilifeform: is what i'd think
asciilifeform: backed with... idk what ( kneecaps ? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1mn in cash + some unknown amount of promisolade to sumbody, neh
asciilifeform: name sounds familiar
asciilifeform: i would not propose it as the 1st to bake, tho. but there it is.
asciilifeform: ( was made this way quite deliberately )
asciilifeform: with 0 changes to the coad
asciilifeform: FG for instance is fully asicable as-it-stands
asciilifeform: btw if mircea_popescu or somebody else here discovers that asic ( ~actual~ asic, not metallization-fpga ) can nao be baked for a coupla coin, asciilifeform will not cry; quite opposite.
asciilifeform: the sort of thing you wouldn't tolerate in even tire nipples
asciilifeform: some folx got 200kHash/s chips, others 300, 400...
asciilifeform: i also remember a very spotty performance in the orig asics, where ~random selection of subcores actually ran, and no attempt was made to 'package the defective transistors in separate bag for your convenience sir'
asciilifeform does not know for certain, was not fully tuned in then
asciilifeform: oh hm
asciilifeform: yes but it was paid for iirc with this.
asciilifeform: these then financed baking of actual asic
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc 1st 'btc asic' were entirely fraudulent fpga-with-sanded-top
asciilifeform: it only happens when usg prods
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ~nobody ~ever recall shit.
asciilifeform: my numbers are from almost 10y ago.
asciilifeform: they could be !!
asciilifeform: seems like tall order for monerozcashodium-of-the-day
asciilifeform: problem with asic is that you gotta bake & liquidate 50-100k units, to break even, as i currently understand
asciilifeform: if can match'em up with suckers fast enuff.
asciilifeform: i suppose from that pov asic could +ev
asciilifeform: spamming js has ~0 nre cost . asic > 0.
asciilifeform: ( why anybody would invest in asic-baking for a shitcoin-of-the-day, i do not know )
asciilifeform: for all i know, the chinese asic bakers will cry last.
asciilifeform: not like shitcoin nets aint expendable, tho
asciilifeform: the idjits who bothered, nao get to sit and cry and mebbe learn sumthing
asciilifeform: the js shitcoin miner thing is lulzy, as we speak it is falling victim to the freshly baked asics for 'asic-resistant' liquishit
asciilifeform: and for what.
asciilifeform: is what 50MB www sadpages are made of, yes
asciilifeform: 'truetype' 0days.
asciilifeform: btw you prolly know why
asciilifeform: ugh
asciilifeform: ( and dun bother to tell where they expanded to, naturally )
asciilifeform: they expand erryday