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topynate: yes. so long as it's a convention with teeth. e.g. opec's oil production quota used to be a real quota because enforcible, now it isn't
mircea_popescu: besides, the same selective memory thing that was deliberately put into deedbot works here as well. some dead chains will be forgotten before others.
mircea_popescu: must be discouraged as much as possible.
mircea_popescu: too many people writing code as it is.
mircea_popescu: "Also, I heard that people are more willing to help animals than other people. Thus the donations to a pet rescue fund can be seen as the upper estimate of how donation to the webpage capture project would perform."
mircea_popescu: i can make as many fuckwhores.vpatch as i want, but only one can end up in any given tree.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-02-2016#1395421 <<< from now you will be known as hashislav because stanislav was taken long ago ☝︎
trinque: mod6: I did a rescan but don't see my key as part of the default "account". I'll fiddle with the wallet.dat a bit more, then take a look at backporting that importprivkey
deedbot-: [Qntra] Alan Reiner Quits Armory as Multi-Year Commercialization Effort Fails - http://qntra.net/2016/02/alan-reiner-quits-armory-as-multi-year-commercialization-effort-fails/
thestringpuller: aha. so pretty much ~only~ for labratory use as stated. ☟︎
ascii_butugychag: esp. once it is actually a debugger and not simply a lame proof of concept as now
ascii_butugychag: which - when we actually get shiva hooks that ~modify~ as well as read - does have a global lock
ascii_butugychag: felipelalli: you say this as if you had no choice ? ☟︎
thestringpuller: as are most RPG logs
PeterL: ascii_butugychag> as that would require the hash of (-b) and (c') to be equal << is it looking at the hash of the pressed value, which should be the same, or the hash of the patches themselves, which I understand are quite different?
ascii_butugychag: as that would require the hash of (-b) and (c') to be equal
punkman: don't we have to be careful with the antipatches though, so as not to introduce cycles in the graph?
ascii_butugychag: this means that the new patches have the same effect as the old.
ascii_butugychag: your patches ought to add up to same thing as mine did
phf: fwiw deleting a patch doesn't "remove it" as such, but ensures that all descendants are unpressable
ascii_butugychag: your local one consists of all of the ones you downloaded for which you have the signatures you accept as valid
ascii_butugychag: every patch ever written ~is in the tree~ as it appears to archaeologists
jurov: actually no, people will rename them manually, the curation as you intended all along
ascii_butugychag: the trees, as i understand, ought to be ~the same~ after each scenario
ascii_butugychag: it is as if the pvs fix is not in one of the trees ?
ascii_butugychag: it can be viewed as an lxr.
ascii_butugychag: so long as every patch ever submitted can be pressed to, the thing works correctly.
PeterL: ascii_butugychag> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-02-2016#1395141 << when americans stuff ballot box, they like to set it up as 'dark horse candidate' << I wouldn't call Cruz a dark horse, there are just so many candidates he must have been overlooked, we didn't get bets for huckabee, santorum, fiorina, christie, etc, either ☝︎
mircea_popescu: also, the timing as presented by the node is not terribly reliable.
ascii_butugychag: nor does idem, running on SAME BOX as zoolag in parallel with it and -connected to it and the other trbs.
ascii_butugychag: i can say at this point that it is not a network issue as such
mircea_popescu: oddly enough i don't get blackholed nearly as often as you do o.O
ascii_butugychag: he's prolly almost as tired of reading'em as i am of sending
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 16:25:23; mircea_popescu: review the letters, the reason calculus was invented as well as documented has everything to do with newton being part of the b-a of his time, going under the name "lion's claw" and ~0 to do with the happenstance that some derp battling hygiene wore a hunk of metal now and again for a hat.
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-02-2016#1395141 << when americans stuff ballot box, they like to set it up as 'dark horse candidate' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: review the letters, the reason calculus was invented as well as documented has everything to do with newton being part of the b-a of his time, going under the name "lion's claw" and ~0 to do with the happenstance that some derp battling hygiene wore a hunk of metal now and again for a hat. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and as a side wonder, i wonder how many people even knew iowa was a state.
PeterL: so does the rand paul bet get settled as "no" now, or does it have to wait until the republican convention in the summer?
mircea_popescu: to take trump as vp
mircea_popescu: the way it wouldn't be for obama. he was, throughout, a loser. losing doesn't affect losers as it affects winners.
asciilifeform: 'hobo in the alley has same right to impregnate wife as master of the house' or how did mircea_popescu put it.
danielpbarron: the idea was to nag as many people as possible into at least ~saying~ that they'd move to New Hampsire if 19.999k others said the same
pete_dushenski: ^a test. you might see me logging in as 'pete_d_out' in the next week or so. if you do, please to +v!
asciilifeform: http://www.pi314.net/eng/bellard.php << l0l! same bellard as of qemu and tinycc and many other fun things
asciilifeform: the discovery since he contributed to it (as he said), this is my second big mistake. Of course he accepted to co-write the article, who wouldn't ?! David H. Bailey (and Ferguson) are the authors of the PSLQ program. That program is the <american> version of the Pari-Gp program. I used it a little it is true, but what made the discovery was pari-Gp and Maple interface program I had. So actually, that person has nothing to do w
asciilifeform: more talent in politics (more money too). He is good but has a tendency to site himself a lot. He thinks that if he had the idea of the sum of 2 numbers at one point in his life then all formulas in mathematics are his own discovery. About David H. Bailey. He came after the discovery of the formula and my small basic program , I had also a fortran version. This is where Peter Borwein suggested to add him as a collaborator to
danielpbarron: it's some account that's fairly popular in the twatter circles of people who use terms like opsec and infosec, pointing out that the proponents of larger blocks sound like the guy who's running for president as a socialist
asciilifeform: as in, what ruminant ruminates over
mircea_popescu: idence of a polynomial method to estimate a transcendent" is really good enough. and it exhibits all those important properties : such as, you can ~actually~ use infinite message, and you can also use any arbitrary padding you like, up to infinity - the hash function won't complain. and you can want it to shit out any block size you want it to shit out - also won't complain, but give EQUALLY MEANINGFUL results. whether
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i will prolly care. on the train, some time soon. << the reason i give it is mostly didactic. it plainly shows what i mean re proper use of math and treating your computer like a tool to do a job rather than treating your job as something to be adjusted to fit the computer without having to delve into complexities and subtleties of number theory etc. something as commonplace as "use the intervals of conf
mircea_popescu: (and from 1 i see you like small blocks just abour as much as i do)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you feel like entertaining some crackpottery, suppose a hash function defined as follows : a) calculate PM ; pM ; P!M ; p!M where P and p are the perimeters of polygons of K sides circumscribing and inscribed respectively in the same circle and !M is the bitwise negation of M ; b) calculate V1 = 2pMPM/(PM+pM) ; V2 = sqrt(pMPM) ; V3 = 2p!MP!M/(P!M+p!M) ; V4 = sqrt(p!MP!M) ; c) calculate H = (V1 - V2) *
mircea_popescu: so as not to say "should have been a shoemaker"
mircea_popescu: anyway : best ux ever in a mechanical cryptological machine. you could use as many slabs per message as you felt like.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally do you recall that very ingenious thing that worked essentially as a vinyl record player needle but on a random chunk of clay pot ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: (note that speck and simon were ~not~ proclaimed as crown standards, like des or aes)
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2016 23:48:55; mircea_popescu: incidentally, thinking vaguely along the lines of making a b-a call for papers for symm cypher, what would we actually want ? i'm thinking a) block sizes of 1, 4, 16, 64 kbytes. none of that bit-denominated bs, wtf is this, 64 bits. fuck that. b) key size of 64kb fixed. c) bonus points for proved hardness, as-hard-as-x etc d) bonus points for not using just basic arithmetics. fuck this shift-and-xor
mircea_popescu: but give it a GOOD read aforehand, it's crappy as found in .8
mircea_popescu: incidentally, thinking vaguely along the lines of making a b-a call for papers for symm cypher, what would we actually want ? i'm thinking a) block sizes of 1, 4, 16, 64 kbytes. none of that bit-denominated bs, wtf is this, 64 bits. fuck that. b) key size of 64kb fixed. c) bonus points for proved hardness, as-hard-as-x etc d) bonus points for not using just basic arithmetics. fuck this shift-and-xor hack-and-slash bs, ☟︎☟︎
punkman: F must be lower than number of context lines, so F 3 should do the same as F 1000 in most cases :P
mircea_popescu: punkman i've been thinking about it too, seems in point of fact we're mangling two distinct things. 1) patches-as-code ; 2) patches-as-human-readable.
punkman: I'm thinking any diff replacement should do strictly binary diffs, and only include line-oriented context diff as a visual aid
mod6: meanwhile, I'll work on an automated test for this change and work on republishing this fix as a one change deal. will be v99995
assbot: Coinbase treats all transfers to your account as (1099) Payments : BitcoinMarkets ... ( http://bit.ly/1o3NkZs )
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/43rggm/coinbase_treats_all_transfers_to_your_account_as/ <<< kek
ascii_butugychag: this would give you the entire tree as represented by your patches+seals+keys set.
ascii_butugychag: you can use a non-leaf node as a head
PeterL: ok, so what do I use as head? one of the leafs?
ascii_butugychag: PeterL: you can do it just as well with his
ascii_butugychag: at any rate, v really started as a pill against this particular thing
mircea_popescu: but as polarbeard among others can testify, this makes writing code fucking difficult, thanks god.
mod6: but that could be somehow broken as well, obviously, this needs some attention.
mod6: and thats even with a full sync of the mirror as it exists up until this very minute.
mircea_popescu: mod6 as he says, turns out he wrote it on top of patches that didn't make in
mircea_popescu: forking as a way of life.
jurov: not needed, if it can find and verify the clearsigned part marked as text/plain or text/gpg, all is swell
mircea_popescu: ok so i am sending an email to btc-dev@therealbitcoin.org with subject line Certify polarbeard_add_getpeerinfo_rpc with content as a clearsigned short explanation of what it is, and with two attachments
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2016#1393896 << http://www.atruechurch.info/women.html >> Although God has in the past placed women in authority over men (e.g. Judges 4:4), and even today the Lord places women in authority over men (e.g. Romans 13:1), this is nonetheless a shameful reality, as Isaiah illustrates. (Isaiah 3:12) ☝︎
ascii_butugychag: cia as per ~its own~ official histories admits being an org made of 'second sons'
mircea_popescu: there's a reason the nazis were regarded as barely better than the russians back in the day.
ascii_butugychag: (i must mention, for completeness, that derpwall could have an opposite purpose, of preventing inquiriy into the ~weakness~ of b-b-s when used as prng, as it is in many systems incl. iirc, certain versions of winblowz)
ascii_butugychag: btw how come nobody uses blum-blum-shub, which provably reduces to quadratic residuosity hardness, as a block cipher ?
mircea_popescu: trinque i dunno, jurov was saying something about email, but that seems silly. just allow the import of files and piss them out as a json i guess ?
ascii_butugychag: as it is, 'here is a capsule of other people's shit'
mircea_popescu: which is how the entire world (except brazil) enjoys the benefits of refrigeration, even as there's maybe a guy in a thousand people that could explain how it actually works.
mod6: we're about to get some snow. not as bad as IA tho.
mircea_popescu: this is the one bit us folk are too blinded by their own internal narcissus to grasp. you don't get to retry on your own as a failed state. you get put under the management of your neighbours, because you suck. it happened to the indian tribes in the same geography before, and they were extinctified by it.
mircea_popescu: anyway. in my detached view, this presidency is important for purely exterior reasons. the us, as it is, is irrelevant to everyone, including itself. the future of the us is mostly determined by the management of the image of the us, which is well divorced from the us of today, and a sort of future tendril of the us of 1970.
mircea_popescu: as the ancient rule says, "people will do the sane thing just as soon as all alternatives have been exhausted".
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2016#1393769 << yes, just as soon as that someone either a) gets out of childhood by putting some scratch together or b) gets out of senility by understanding which side the future's buttered on. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mats: That was a disappointment. I was hoping to see someone store linux kernel as dead tree on shelves
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2016 05:08:04; mircea_popescu: so basically polarbeard here's the thing : i considered signing this, and i will consider signing the next version. as it is however i won't do that, because a) not all errors have both flags set ; b) occasional ' in error message ; c) occasional losing a valuable datapoint (such as the hash above) or missing on adding a useful one (nStart).
BingoBoingo: Anyways, Trumps future is as a sort of Alternative Pat Buchanan
mircea_popescu: these are both very nice things, and the good news is that it's much easier for you to become very useful than it is for alf to grow another arm. so don't take this as a censure per se. does all that make sense ?
mircea_popescu: as annoying as b c etc might be they're mostly minor and could be fixed by a further patch. a however is a killer, and colors both b and c in similar tones, because it betrays the fundamental problem with this patch : it doesn't flow from a structured approach given in depth consideration, but merely from your desire to help and impressive stamina.
mircea_popescu: so basically polarbeard here's the thing : i considered signing this, and i will consider signing the next version. as it is however i won't do that, because a) not all errors have both flags set ; b) occasional ' in error message ; c) occasional losing a valuable datapoint (such as the hash above) or missing on adding a useful one (nStart). ☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2016#1393606 << perhaps i ought to explain, i use the expiration feature so that my key can get garbagecollected out of heathendom when i finally transition to new one, instead of working as a honeypot for hitler ☝︎
adlai: correct, same as how extension block (adam back's original name for what morphed into the "segwit softfork") payments don't /count/ until you withdraw them to cold, hard, bitcoin
danielpbarron recalls Mircea saying something like "if you're gonna fork, might as well start with new genesis block"
ben_vulpes now actually very curious as to how this sort of thing would work at the code level in practice. if blockheight < forkheight, use old validation rules, else use new?