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asciilifeform: perhaps he paid for the hoster in advance, or whoknows, still tuned in quietly, but not known to me which.
asciilifeform: nicoleci: (possibly you already know, from reading l0gz) Framedragger was a briefly-productive fella who walked off into the desert coupla yrs ago; his www is (for nao) alive.
asciilifeform: ( as i understand, will be contraband in usg reich unless Officially blessed )
asciilifeform: kalash receiver can and has been made from shovel.
asciilifeform: excluding ( again, per usg customs, can't speak for the phree world ) the bolt.
asciilifeform: ( for n00bz/non-aficionados -- 'receiver' is the part between stock and barrel, roughly )
asciilifeform: !!up nicoleci
asciilifeform: ( ancient -- 1920s? -- laws, never cancelled, consider 'receiver' to be the usg-controlled item )
asciilifeform: it dun make barrels, only the back half of piece, but in usa barrels are sold openly
asciilifeform: mats: and the moar recent items not '3d printed', d00d sold a little cnc milling thing
asciilifeform: mats: perhaps not enuff of trap
asciilifeform: ( imho they also oughta be to something other than Framedragger's logtron, which i suspect is not long to live ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: nicoleci: couldja plz make the links -- clickable
asciilifeform: i.e. 'wouldn't turn asset'
asciilifeform: or even as mundane as refusal to play 'death ray seller' stooge role in $provocation-of-the-day ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and ditto the other fella
asciilifeform: btw ftr i suspect that the wilson d00d wasn't nailed for 'distibuting evil schematics', they're ~useless as is, but for refusing to sabotage'em and play gapon for usg
asciilifeform: ( even supposing they didn't -- the place from which hypothetical box originates, definitely does )
asciilifeform: even goatfuckistans have ww2-style radar.
asciilifeform: PeterL: dirigibles, balloons, etc. of practically useful size, suck, radar profile
asciilifeform: ahahahaha BingoBoingo , loox like they finally http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-03#1577246 him ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( balloons per se are prolly not interesting from pov of this application, but same principle could be usable in water )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-28#1076087 << thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: hm
asciilifeform: !#s jp balloon
asciilifeform: so conceivably applicable to water.
asciilifeform: ww2 jp accomplished however a similarly improbable feat, with 50kg ~balloons~, which had simple 'music box' mechanism that only knew how to drop ballast and vent gas, so as to get into- and out- of current.
asciilifeform: afaik the principal boojum that puts this in the 'prolly not happening' , is that ocean is not 'random', has strong currents.
asciilifeform: i also suggested to schwartz to place mesh radio in the bottles, but thread went nowhere.
asciilifeform: ( exercise for reader : compute the minimal necessary counter-force that gyro in a 5kg bottle must exert , to eventually converge on destination... )
asciilifeform: champagne bottle.
asciilifeform: $100 transcontinentator...
asciilifeform: you power the gyro with the motion of the thing itself, in waves, a la japanese wristwatch.
asciilifeform: al schwartz at one time was into 'messages in bottles' , dropped in various spots from airplanes, tracked receipt ( many folx actually mailed in ! the postcard ). i suggested this variation to him.
asciilifeform: potentially could have 'self-guiding message in bottle' this way, in coupla months would even get somewhere near where intended...
asciilifeform: in gimbal. as in old icbm navigator. with the diff that its purpose is specifically to resist motion in the 'undesired' direction.
asciilifeform: incidentally re 'salmon goes fast enuff if yer patient!11' item: in asciilifeform's crackpot files, there is a gedankenexperiment, simplest possible sea propulsion, with 0 exposure of moving parts to salt : picture hermetically sealed 'bottle' with... gyroscope
asciilifeform: supposing one has mechanism for switching.
asciilifeform: btw 2 small motors that cannot do 100%-dutycycle, can be entirely legit replacement for one of 2x mass (and 5x cost) that could
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: there's at least 1 public example of a ~papier-mache item.
asciilifeform: moar like '20s 'tank', where they welded sheets on vans
asciilifeform: ( the publicly exposed examples, iirc carried 2, 1 spare )
asciilifeform: that very same honda, iirc.
asciilifeform: btw the columbians, as far as is known to asciilifeform , use standard gensets for power plant, and electric outboard for motile.
asciilifeform: 'wet exhaust' apparatus for the tailpipe.
asciilifeform pictures genset submerged in oil and welded into bottle
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand cooling in ship is entirely different headache, how to keep salt from eating the exchanger
asciilifeform: ( how many kw, for how long , on $tank )
asciilifeform: would be interesting to at least compute what can be had from genset engine
asciilifeform: right
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty sure i got one of these here, grass cutter. air cooled tho, and even in cool air not happy to run for weeks at time
asciilifeform: i'd describe this as 'open problem', rather than 'physical impossibility' tho. conceivably a material exists out of which can be made 50kg diesel.
asciilifeform: and then talking about a 500kg torpedo.
asciilifeform: 10x bigger tank.
asciilifeform: 10x smaller efficiency.
asciilifeform: su tried for ~70yrs to make ~flyable~ (i.e. <100kg) diesel, failed.
asciilifeform: i'm 100% sold that 'small' is possible, but not 100% convinced that with diesel.
asciilifeform: how wouldja like if you were mailing parcel and post answered 'hey, it went ~somewhere~' lol
asciilifeform: landed at ~destination~ ??
asciilifeform: correct. ( tho in addition to 'orcs steal', we add 'poseidon steals' )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu; currently orcs steal 300 $ of hdd, rather than $10k of hdd + $20k of torpedo..
asciilifeform: but asciilifeform is not domain expert, will not presume to go into depth
asciilifeform: small engines , to date, suffer re efficiency. sorta why tanker is sop today, vs fleet of sloops
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gotta factor in % of lost vessels + cargo, like the satellite people do, however
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm 100% sold that one ~could~ build. would 1st have to devise a 50kg diesel, i've never seen one, even aside from the matter of water etc
asciilifeform: phf: gliders don't get moved when landed by currents.
asciilifeform: at any rate i suspect that the problem is not wholly engineering problem, in the sense where, yes usg torpedo (for piddling 100km range) costs $mil, a ru torpedo -- $100k, but afaik nobody's built a $1 or even $10k thing-that-sails-8000km , in which to economically carry $1k of cargo
asciilifeform: back when su spy sats dropped film bottles, they still had ( reluctantly, as it is just as asinine as it sounds ) beacons, because otherwise ~0 chance of find. even from chopper.
asciilifeform: i suspect that you'd get coupla sq. km. radius to search.
asciilifeform: what's to keep enemy from going to the beacon ?
asciilifeform: i.e. it beacons ?
asciilifeform: how does receiver find it ?
asciilifeform: so, keeps station ?
asciilifeform: what would anchor on a 50kg torpedo look like ?
asciilifeform: which english thing
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: i suspect that such a machine could be built.
asciilifeform: q is whether it could survive a coupla trips.
asciilifeform: and errything breaks one day.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you wouldn't put a single crystal panel to sea, lol. segments joined by rubber.
asciilifeform: it's 1 of the few potentially sane use cases for pv.
asciilifeform: receiving end -- cleans it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is solvable , with properly oversized panel.
asciilifeform: electrics -- scale down to ~microscopic. who didn't have a toy submarine as a boy.
asciilifeform: and no tanks.
asciilifeform: fish speed.
asciilifeform: hence orig suggestion of electrics+pv
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: airtank as ballast already classic, in ordinary torpedo.
asciilifeform: it is possible to have closed cycle engine, on (reasonably) cheap.
asciilifeform: *had
asciilifeform: PeterL: even pre-nukes, '40s jp navy has peroxide sub.
asciilifeform can picture valves, and compressed air tank as 'buffer'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: valves ?
asciilifeform: and dun enjoy salt.
asciilifeform: rright, but diesels as i know'em still gotta be dry in order to start again.
asciilifeform: i can think of several possible ways to make such a diesel, but afaik no such thing presently exists off-shelf, would have to make.
asciilifeform: would be killer item, as i understand lotsa yachters would buy
asciilifeform: so needs diesel that can self-dehydrate ?
asciilifeform: and 2m (sop) wave, all 4 submerged ? then what