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asciilifeform: who will be the brave man who first tries this.
mod6: heheh "Now Taste The Meat."
asciilifeform: (and yes i will re-grind the ts genesis later. it needs to be re-based to add up to patch 1 above, also)
mod6: sure thing, sounds good.
asciilifeform: would like to get folks readin' it
asciilifeform: mod6: i'ma post the whole thing. i don't mind re-grinding later if necessary.
mod6: i've got a release vpatch up my sleeve, but no email ready for that or anything. that's coming within a number of days I suspect. but probably after the 1st.
mod6: feel free to send what you like as far as tinyscheme.
mod6: asciilifeform: oh sorry, yeah, about to upload the stuff to the site & then send the emails.
asciilifeform: holding off until your thing is in, like you asked
mod6: ok all automated tests for V passed.
mod6: but yah, if all final tests work that include those patches, we're frozen and headed for a release.
mod6: i haven't even touched it yet.
mod6: i need to test PVS a bit more actually tho.
mircea_popescu: i thought you pretty much had all three lined up for it, no ?
mod6: in your opinion, should the release include any of the three (from recent): PVS, Malleus, or High/Low-S ?
asciilifeform: i do not even know if this thing is fit for release..!
mircea_popescu: <mod6> you think it'll be useful at all before we release? << nah, fgorget it. consider the release frozen like a week or two ago.
mod6: which is a good thing that the test picked it up.
mod6: all automated tests should pass now that we have your new PVS seal in the mirror ; was failing lastnight because V thought it was 'WILD', and it expected it to be signed by you.
mod6: it'll contain the fix from yesterday about the strictness of one of my regex's when matching up seals to vpatches; the change to look for the .wot dir in the current working directory by default (as well as .seals); and lastly has the post-press hash checker function also.
mod6: well, hoping to anyway.
mod6: im about to publish V [v99996] tonight.
mod6: ok good deal. feel free to fire off whatever you like at the ML, just be aware that we may have to re-process the vpatches post-release. that's all. salud.
mod6: does that make sense?
mod6: ok you should probably wait to run vdiff against the changes until i've got the release patch out then, so you can start from there.
asciilifeform: mod6: it touches plenty. but it probably should not go in the release, is a very dangerous experimental thing.
mod6: im thinking that i'm gonna tag the release, and publish the release patch soon. just hoping that if any of it touches trb, that it'll be post-release patch so there are no conflicts.
mod6: (so far, i didn't see any that did)
mod6: does any of it touch any of trb's files?
mod6: you think it'll be useful at all before we release?
asciilifeform: it won't be tremendously useful right off the bat, more of a thing to build on.
asciilifeform: soooo i'm nearly done with the megaturd.
mod6: ok stand-by, going to update the mirror.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ;;later tell mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000197.html << fantastic, thanks alf!!
asciilifeform: seems like this is a mere leak.
asciilifeform: or hm, does cpp string class allocate a fresh turd when returning ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: (incidentally, this snippet WILL work if nobody clobbers the stack between invocation and use of the result. bbuttt... why/?!!!
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2016 23:08:48; jurov: some prior art claims were discussed but don't remember nor can't find this exact paper in logs
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387999 << afaik all that derpage started after hacker-something deleted the original phuctor story, replaced it with an "expert" nobody heard of and his spurious testimony containing no data, and it's been on a blabla kick ever since. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2016 22:46:24; Linus_: Did you hear about the strategy to subsidize miners to stay on 1MB blocks?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387980 <<< as it happened to have been started in these very logs... i guess he must've. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but anyway. there has to be a limit, for quantum reasons.
assbot: Logged on 28-01-2016 21:26:18; PeterL: most memory management tricks seem to be directed at retaining what you want, I have never seen anybody talk about throwing out useless stuff. I don't know if anybody has researched whether there is a hard limit to total storage space?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387911 << yet it is my principal skill. teh intimates often can't believe just how talented i am at it! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/01/gavin-andresen-proposes-same-hardfork-again/#comment-43752 << lol. top zing.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2016#1387872 << gotta love these idiots. ☝︎
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asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000197.html
BingoBoingo: So it's looking like Iowa's getting snow next week. No way this isn't good for my boy Rubio
jurov: RSA's feature that allows bad number generators to a ect other keys in such a public way is problematic."
jurov: From the PDF:" The new data suggests that, as the body of keys grows, so does the percentage of keys a ected and that the simple step of abandoning 1024-bit keys for 2048-bit ones may be less e ective than desired.
jurov: "They were able to factor 0.2% of the keys using only Euclid's algorithm."
jurov: some prior art claims were discussed but don't remember nor can't find this exact paper in logs ☟︎
assbot: RSA (cryptosystem) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1NE5PYX )
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 05:54:30; mircea_popescu: very simple mechanism to ACTUALLY improve your insurance : make a pool which pays 25.25 btc for the first block it finds each day.
pete_dushenski: eh miners are already subsidised plenty. if they want to mine larger blocks and fork off, for the most part, it's their loss.
Linus_: kinda similar how some people donate, to keep more full nodes running.
Linus_: no, just adding some BTC, on top of the regular 25 btc miner reward.
Linus_: Did you hear about the strategy to subsidize miners to stay on 1MB blocks? ☟︎
assbot: Letter to Timothy B. Lee, senior editor at Vox.com | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1nr4dwg )
Linus_: pete_dushenski: Hey, that is a nice PGP tutorial. I also recommend GPA (Gnu Privacy Assistant) to beginners.
ascii_butugychag: do i even want to know.
ascii_butugychag: 'Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) by means of ECDH or DH Kex ... opmsg builds fine with any of the OpenSSL, LibreSSL and BoringSSL...' << i've read enough.
Linus_: it's supposed to be like PGP , but with Forward Secrecy, and some othe stuff
assbot: Please To PGP (Guide for Linux, OS X, Windows) | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvuPYi )
pete_dushenski: Linus_: if you need help with the pgp part of the equation, start here http://www.contravex.com/2014/09/23/please-to-pgp-guide-for-linux-os-x-windows/
Linus_: PGP is cool, have you seen this: https://github.com/stealth/opmsg
Linus_: :) thanks
pete_dushenski: ^ if you care to change that
pete_dushenski: that pretty well matches my interactions with indians, they're either chemists or dentists.
ascii_butugychag: pete_dushenski: they tend to 'colonize' rackets involving repetitive, tedious sorts of work
pete_dushenski: just like doj then.
ascii_butugychag: they tend to... segment.
pete_dushenski: is a rotating slurry of undifferentiable mud, the kind that wants to be 'anonymous' online.
pete_dushenski: "Using a common system for extrapolating generations from genetic recombination, the researchers estimated "all upper-caste populations, except [one] from Northeast India, started to practice endogamy about 70 generations ago... This time estimate belongs to the latter half of the period when the Gupta emperors ruled large tracts of India (Gupta Empire, 319–550 CE)."" << ie. upper class is genetically distinct, the
pete_dushenski: someone must design it, yes, and that someone also isn't in india or china, also yes. but so what ? colonies are nothing new.
ascii_butugychag: so long as white man supplies the equipment - yes
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 21:24:19; mircea_popescu: what haplogrup was martin luther king ? or is such knowledge forbidden in the united obscurantistlands.
ascii_butugychag: there's plenty india can do that usa chokes on - such as actually producing pharma cheaply
assbot: The caste system has left its mark on Indians’ genomes | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/2097Hp6 )
PeterL: most memory management tricks seem to be directed at retaining what you want, I have never seen anybody talk about throwing out useless stuff. I don't know if anybody has researched whether there is a hard limit to total storage space? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Nagant also frontloads side effects. ETOH lets you mortage those costs.
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Aha. ETOH allows for some memories to remain in the meat. Achieving that with Nagant is tricky.
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: nagant also works, in that sense. not interesting.
PeterL: Imagines the inside of the girls mind, there are mechanisms for throwing out useless data
pete_dushenski: "Not only can it not be trained, not even to the modest degree bravery and valor could be trained into the knight, but it exhibits a very active antieconomy of scale!" << applies to 'art of forgetting rubbish' just as well.
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: ETOH work to promote forgetting, but problems emerge because it is very non-selective.
PeterL: have you seen the movie "Inside out"?
ascii_butugychag: there really oughta be moar work re: the art of forgetting rubbish
BingoBoingo: Just don't make it Euclidian. Parallel lines are an anti-optimization when it comes time to recall shit.
pete_dushenski: maybe tomorrow
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Maybe you should try building a non-Euclidian memory palace
BingoBoingo: I only remember it because I am good at forgetting other things.
pete_dushenski: well your memory is better than mine cuz i'd forgotten all about it. lost in the sea of drama noise.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: That and the drama leading up to it. Generated lots of noise.
assbot: Logged on 05-09-2014 20:45:34; BingoBoingo: "This was my fault. While I don't think it's impossible to fairly cover Bitcoin while also holding some Bitcoins, the reason to make these rules blunt and general, rather than nuanced and specific, is to ensure there's no question about the motivations of the underlying coverage."
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-09-2014#820694 << this what you were referring to BingoBoingo ? ☝︎