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ben_vulpes: iirc the stumbling block to a single transaction is that we want to avoid pushing BingoBoingo's local account over the minimum tax line. with i think the local equiv. of an llc BingoBoingo can receive money and it won't count as his income until it hits his account.
mircea_popescu: though i'm guessing pizarro might actually prefer monthly rather than weekly fixings
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i might as well put it in the open : if anyone in the l1 / my wot is trying to buy bitcoin but has trouble doing so, i'll sell you a few as a courtesy so we don't find ourselves in this situation where clerical difficulties enact a division in the republic.
asciilifeform: trinque: i suspect that this is the only viable pill
trinque: doesn't look like the whole picture, but I'm not going to piece it together myself
asciilifeform: rright i recall
esthlos: but i don't know, probably just have to grow up
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should say "i have no proof free market in btc exists as i've not given much of a shit re usd thence", but really now, how often needs the dough be proofed ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the ~only time i was specifically interested, ie, when the question of defeating argentina's whore in the election was on the table, i personally moved macroscopic piles of dough for the purpose, with little difficulty.
esthlos: trinque: I'm a geometer, always searching for higher symmetries, unifying disjoint worldviews ☟︎
esthlos: trinque: that's rather interesting. anyway, I'm sure you see the dilemma: everyone "successful" around me sees no fundamental problem with usg system, and when you say "this spec is atrocious; have you ever heard of the CLHS?" or any infinite variation on that theme, the only response is incredulity. but what, somehow I have the magic sauce and everyone around me is wrong? this is my current resistance to trilema thought
mircea_popescu: i have yet to see a round wheel (to arbitrary standard of roundness).
asciilifeform: i don't demand the frictionless wheel, mircea_popescu . but currently all of the 'wheels' aint even round.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i struggle to conceptualize what it is you want here, in a way that'd take it out of storytelling and into reality. there's outfits selling gold for btc -- but they have to send it somewhere. iirc one even permits you to pick it up... but ummm... HOW are they to know "you" are picking it up ? and so on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was speaking of usg-style kyc, with 'scans', 'where is the money from', clawbacks.
asciilifeform: it bothers me that i can't even picture what a successful cut away of goxism would look like.
asciilifeform: and i'm not even sure if 3 is physically possible
mircea_popescu: i haven't been following so closely. iirc they at some point wanted i dun recall what paperwork, i sneered and turned off the light.
asciilifeform: i believe.
mircea_popescu: but be that as it may, many moons ago i eg sold some coins on an outfit davout worked for at the time ; they showed up in bank as advertised, closed at price as advertised etc.
trinque: esthlos: I was looking for the thread where mircea_popescu mentions minds leaning schizoid or paranoid
asciilifeform: on top of this, i haven't, i suspect, the table stakes.
asciilifeform: if there is an actual free market in btc, i've never seen it, smelled it, heard it.
mircea_popescu: i am not aware of a market in which large packets are advertised. the best kept secret of any brokerage, say, is when large packets are bought or sold.
esthlos: to be clear, model A is standard USG model, where I most clearly see the fraud in the tech (if you recal, my original draw here was lispm, after I read history and saw current state of retardation), and model B is trilema, as I'm beginning to understand it
esthlos: that I'm encountering two incommeasurable pictures of reality, and instead of solidly believing one, I try to straddle the gap. but this fails and always leaves me babbling incoherently
mircea_popescu: if, eg, i had found of bitcoin in 2015 as opposed to 2011, i might have conceivably bought a card concession like the debit store cards things, and simply offered it to the world until i had bought enough
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps naive model, in asciilifeform's head, but it would seem to me that in order for it to exist, it has to be either massive bag of usd , which eventually runs out, or to include a recirculator, i.e. some way to sell btc and get usd, in the system
asciilifeform: Mocky: i've never been an alley whore either.
esthlos: presteigous company full of smart people, 100+B USD in assets, and tech is all microshit, aws, scala... what the fuck do I believe
mircea_popescu: esthlos, i don't know!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 03:02 mircea_popescu: the only known pill to the mess being a sort of encapsulation, "the worldview from x priors through y structure is z" ; which is why disciplines such as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815636 are even interesting to the thinking man. it's not that "in reading ancient cuneiform i gain a new skill of flour and water mixing into novel bread", but it is that "in managing to regard the world through the eyes of a reconstructed
esthlos: in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817320 , trying to reconcile the sheer fraud of USG technology has driven me to the limits of sanity for a number of years now, and even with trilema providing the only solid counterstructure I've found, I do fragment when very successful (in USGland) people around me see no fundamental problem with USG system ☝︎
asciilifeform: i for one will take vulns to my grave, rather than 'responsibly' give to microshit for a pot of taxolade.
douchebag: Well I would much rather be paid for finding a vulnerability than go and exploit it and risk going to prison
asciilifeform: i.e. to terrorists first and foremost. failing that -- to public.
douchebag: Aside from that, I don't really see what's bad about a responsible disclosure policy. I don't believe that asking people to not fuck your shit up in exchange for payment is too much to ask
asciilifeform: i.e. became instant magnet for 'carders' from every corner of planet, and burned at the stake.
douchebag: Well I've been paid via bitcoin through hackerone before. Oh and yeah, I don't agree with the code of conduct shit either, but it's whatever. It's worth considering that all of these companies have a dedicated security team patching the vulnerabilities found, triagers are being paid to validate reports, and obviously people who make these reports are being paid.
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817334 << how else can I make the probability as low as possible that I'm not missing something crucial? ☝︎
trinque: and hey, for all I know there's money to be chumped out of the webturd security racket and into bitcoin, and he's just the man to do it.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 02:58 douchebag: However, I'm not sure if that's a fight they will be able to win in the longrun
Mocky: I've never been, but a look at job listings for mexico city features tons of amzn, cisco, jpmorgn, ibm, honeywell etc.
douchebag: https://i.imgur.com/yiJLDUR.png
Mocky: that sounds like an interesting effect. I don't see that I'd ever come to even think about such a thing on my own.
mircea_popescu: babylonian for finite and self-chosen arbitrary intervals at a time i relieve the pressure of sheer insanity the complexity of reality would otherwise force upon me".
mircea_popescu: the only known pill to the mess being a sort of encapsulation, "the worldview from x priors through y structure is z" ; which is why disciplines such as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815636 are even interesting to the thinking man. it's not that "in reading ancient cuneiform i gain a new skill of flour and water mixing into novel bread", but it is that "in managing to regard the world through the eyes of a reconstructed ☝︎☟︎
douchebag: However, I'm not sure if that's a fight they will be able to win in the longrun ☟︎
douchebag: A decentralized solution such as bitcoin would be great for the world and for the future, however I think it will take some time before it catches on more. As decentralized solutions begin to catch on, the banks that print currency are just going to continue to fight it
douchebag: Well, obviously there's always going to be some sort of economy. As far as central banks go, I think it would be better off without them - however, I'm not sure if central banks are going to disappear any time in the near future.
douchebag: I'm not too sure I really have an opinion on that, what do you make of it?
esthlos: I don't have much more to say on the matter
esthlos: but, I see that you come here, bunch of lords rate you negative, and no indication from you that you detect a personal deficiency
esthlos: hmm, I don't know you well enough to speak to that.
douchebag: esthlos: Well, generally speaking I don't assume I'm right or wrong without some sort of evidence.
douchebag: trinque: Well that's why I argue, if the other person can prove me wrong I'm more than willing to come to an agreement.
douchebag: trinque: Well, I don't think my over confidence is necessarily a coping mechanism. I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong, however I'm a very strong willed and I'm not afraid to argue if I truly believe that I am in the right.
trinque: yeah, I didn't even know about that feature myself, very cool.
esthlos: btw trinque, have made most of changes to vtron, just have to add mkstemp for ccl (which I know thanks to phf is #_mkstemp) ☟︎
trinque: douchebag: the lack of reflection on what is a coping mechanism in you, and as far as I can tell no reflection whatsoever, that's the deficit
esthlos: I don't want to keep rambling. my point is, I think you're somewhat irrational, and your approach is weak supporting evidence to that, though it's a step in the right direction. hence you're a -1, not a -3
esthlos: right, but that goal only gets you past this barrier, not all the others. imho you'd be better served with a goal of "get better", so that "resolve any issues" is really "what can these people teach me" rather than "how can I make them see my true form of pure energy"
douchebag: In addition to that, I'd like to know what those issues are so they don't occur again
douchebag: Well, ultimately I'm trying to resolve any issues others have with me.
esthlos: well what I really want to know, is if you ask because "negrate is bad, let's get rid of it" or "what flaw might this guy be seeing that I can repair and come out superior?"
douchebag: Well, is there anything I can do to resolve my negrate?
esthlos: my view flipped around when I finally encountered people who were clearly superior in a quite towering way, and I realized that in too many ways I am closer to ant than boot wearer
mircea_popescu: esthlos, it fits directly, "i have a small amt of information of relatively low confidence re this guy (1) and it is negative (-)".
esthlos: of course, I got what, at least 5 years on you? but I'm not sure if my rating should reflect _potential_ or current timeslice
esthlos: now look, esthlos is not all that much better in some ways, but the attitute you're expressing is exactly what I'm trying to fight off
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 00:37 douchebag: ben_vulpes, esthlos, and danielpbarron - is there anything I can do to to repair my reputation? Let me know, and get back to me.
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817173 << well in all honesty, I'm not sure I understand what wot ratings mean, since I don't see where negative ratings fit in to http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/#selection-289.0-297.96 . I rated you -1 because I detect a self-image not fitting a young guy making 35K a year for 60 hrs/week, which ultimately filters down to your ability to think rationally. ☝︎
asciilifeform: hanbot: i suspect that today's fiatola thread, is pertinent ; the reichsbanks formed a unified front against bitcoin
asciilifeform: ( hint, i posted a script a wk or so ago )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817231 << for a n00b, i'd prefer to see a handful of his samples 1st, rather than e.g. deal with million keys submitted with same or garbled user comment string, say ☝︎
douchebag: mircea_popescu: When I try to load these keys into phuctor, it just asks if it's a real key
mircea_popescu: for completeness : to my eyes, disinterested as i am re rando impotent sadists, the lulziest bit re chikatilo was that moment when both the defense attorney AND the prosecutor indicted the judge as being fucking clueless.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817165 << I consider the bet squared up. douchebag, proceed honorably eh? if you say you're doing something, do it. ☝︎
Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-22#1816849 to actually answer the original question: I do like, it's quite the education. ☝︎
douchebag: Yeah i know, i know what my problem is
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i also admit, i feel not fully qualified to teach douchebag , because i am not a 'success story' ; can only teach him what ~not~ to do
asciilifeform: i guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i am satisfied he's not yet found a means to answer this even for himself. so... premature concern.
asciilifeform: currently i can't decide whether d00d really wants to work on interesting problems, or is content to make cve lists in exchange for infinite supply of ice cream and a cot to sleep on.
asciilifeform: well i dun have debug probe into d00d's head; he resembled, vaguely, a younger asciilifeform , so i took that tack.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: some people , somewhere, are content to eat scraps from train station floor, i am sure.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 00:17 douchebag: Not to mention, I'm only making $35k/yr and I work 60 hours a week
a111: Logged on 2018-05-23 00:12 douchebag: For fucks sake, I know a 17 year old who has made $70k this year alone
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect that my grasp of the former, is deficient
douchebag: ben_vulpes, esthlos, and danielpbarron - is there anything I can do to to repair my reputation? Let me know, and get back to me. ☟︎
douchebag: I would just be grabbing that and loading it into phuctor, correct?
douchebag: I only got the job I'm working at right now because I need to do something so that I can move
douchebag: I'll do that right now
douchebag: Hell, I would even be more willing to get paid less as long as I knew it wasn't going to be the same shit, everyday, with no signs of ever improving
douchebag: I don't work well with these type of people
mircea_popescu: i expect.
douchebag: I'm at the point right now, where I feel like if someone offered me $700/week to do any InfoSec work that I'm qualified to do - I would quit this job and take it in two seconds flat.
mircea_popescu: moreover, i'm a great supported of incremental progress.
mircea_popescu: hey, looky, i'm not saying you can't do better for yourself with a few simple tweaks, without requiring revolutionary, massive changes.
douchebag: It's really easy to think I need a job change, when I made more in 30 minutes of bug bounty hunting last week than I do in three weeks from my current job after tax