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snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 22:22:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938053 << ideally would pipe it into sumthing like a table layout, so can select w/out repeatedly including speaker indicator per line e.g. 'mircea_popescu:'
asciilifeform: it's possible that mircea_popescu intends his item to be standalone, rather than pilot plant for all 'canonical' loggers. then dun matter so much whether calendar etc.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-07 07:34:07 mircea_popescu: oh, and is this a search bug, btw ?
asciilifeform: iirc diana_coman actually reported this one coupla wks ago, it seems to be on my chalkboard already !
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-26 00:54:16 mircea_popescu: whereas on trilema you have the whole power of the mp-wp selectylanguage at your disposals, you don't need the line numbers because you can just select w/e actually interests you
lobbes: in the mircea_popescuine logger, though, all links will use the server-side-selectory-style. By definition those links will never agree with the traditional loggers since the latter can't span arbitrary lines / text
asciilifeform: so , say you have a logger of whatever type (either traditional or mircea_popescuine) and 2 of these dun agree re when a day ended -- bang, you get links that dun lead to the desired text. cuz they try to use the fucking date.
asciilifeform: this problem, incidentally, if not cured, will persist in a hypothetical mircea_popescu-style pregenned-pages logger.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:41:56 mircea_popescu: consider both the positive (no convergence language'd ever have emerged out of "oh, phf did excellent job with logger") and the negative (without "we have these loggers, how do we sync them" nobody'd have ever understood why mp-wp is a better display mechanism than "this shit i just brewed").
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:37:54 mircea_popescu: loggers as extant suffer from being built manalone style, from scratch, as such the only possible in-page selection is an ad-hoc (but very functional, as it happens) by-line.
asciilifeform: the other thing, the adhoc traditional line select is human-friendly, very fast to grab a line url, whereas mircea_popescu-style selector less so, gotta find unique start/end text, when citing from trilema it usually takes asciilifeform 2-3 shots to nail down the correct snip
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 05:08:58 mircea_popescu: billymg, did you ever find the trilema article re how to re-do your missed pingbacks ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:41:56 mircea_popescu: consider both the positive (no convergence language'd ever have emerged out of "oh, phf did excellent job with logger") and the negative (without "we have these loggers, how do we sync them" nobody'd have ever understood why mp-wp is a better display mechanism than "this shit i just brewed").
asciilifeform: can't think of any reason not to ~display~ them as mircea_popescu described tho
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 19:57:41 asciilifeform: lobbes: i relit mine via curl "http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-raw/trilema?istart=1937934&iend=1937941" > foo; ./eat_dump.py foo trilema 3
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:37:00 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938036 << nor do you give a shit, seeing how the lines aren't indexed.
asciilifeform: in related grrs, asciilifeform recently attempted backport of mircea_popescu's selector knob to own wp, but broke teeth cuz it dun know how to cross paragraphs, and i have '9000' multi-para selections, esp. in ffa series where coad
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:52:01 mircea_popescu: for this reason any imanentization (ie, mapping of concepts into reality) will revolve around a "paradigm" / wilful blindness of some kind. "how could i not think of that" is always lulzy -- if you thought of everything your head would explode. and that's a literalism : if you somehow fit all states of its own emptiness into a glass it'd go boom.
asciilifeform: sorta how mircea_popescu does when writes article featuring log segment
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:38:22 mircea_popescu: whereas on trilema you have the whole power of the mp-wp selectylanguage at your disposals, you don't need the line numbers because you can just select w/e actually interests you
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938053 << ideally would pipe it into sumthing like a table layout, so can select w/out repeatedly including speaker indicator per line e.g. 'mircea_popescu:'
asciilifeform: lobbes: see what mircea_popescu says when wakes up.
asciilifeform: lobbes: it's 1 of the reasons why asciilifeform did not like mircea_popescu's original tip re how to bake logger ('just pipe it into a wp') ; but mircea_popescu did specifically ask for 1 that does exactly that, for own www, i presume he knows what he's doing
asciilifeform: currently this is a gnarly manually-cranked process, as ./eat_dump.py deliberately is made so ~not~ to import any line that conflicts with existing index
asciilifeform: lobbes: i relit mine via curl "http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-raw/trilema?istart=1937934&iend=1937941" > foo; ./eat_dump.py foo trilema 3
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plz consider to put said bash+awk in 'contrib' dir of vtree
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:05:45 mircea_popescu: it'll benefit the nooblets immensely if they seriously spend some time groking the "turn" thing. there's a time for everything ; and for most things that time isn't NOW.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 17:10:20 asciilifeform: diana_coman: yours is missing a line somewhere >day ago
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this 1 was a piz-wide outage.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yours was specific to dulap ( where phuctor db was being walked just as mircea_popescu happened to load ) , recall that other boxen were unaffected
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-19 05:39:18 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, an' considering we're apparently stuck with a buncha chrises over here : any of your resident knights capable of registering a chan on ~any other network~ and writing the bridge code on top of extant bot already ?
asciilifeform: ( or did mircea_popescu divide by 0 an' crash before got to that part..? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way i read it, he starts with rhetorical 'but how could be political' then proceeds to show entirely edible concrete example
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:12:25 mircea_popescu: could use more reading. eg : "How can, for example a compiler be in any way even remotely political?" >> http://trilema.com/2015/the-downtrodden-are-downtrodden-for-a-reason-step-on-their-faces/ specifically discusses it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:27:04 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937909 - that's precisely the sort of tasks he got because yes, needs to do more reading and to do *better* reading; by the looks of it the US doesn't teach people how to read, somehow, it's rather unbelievable.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aha, dulap likewise not reset
asciilifeform: mine appears to be 100% current ( haven't seen re lobbes's yet ) , diana_coman invited to pipe from there.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc you had a student write a db differ ? is this posted ? could then find why yours is missing 1ln
asciilifeform: diana_coman: yours is missing a line somewhere >day ago
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pretty strange, seems that they fell outta sync ~before~ this outage ?!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-01 15:54:49 diana_coman: well, syncing indices is gotta be automated not manual hunting though
asciilifeform: diana_coman: loox like i'ma have to resync in #o tho.
asciilifeform: snsabot re synced via diana_coman : http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-raw/trilema?istart=1937934&iend=1937941
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 15:12:25 mircea_popescu: could use more reading. eg : "How can, for example a compiler be in any way even remotely political?" >> http://trilema.com/2015/the-downtrodden-are-downtrodden-for-a-reason-step-on-their-faces/ specifically discusses it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 14:59:46 mircea_popescu: so yes, there's ~IMPLICIT~ policy in intellectual stance : if you're smart, you're here ; if you're not here, you're ~THEREFORE~ dumb. and so following.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc he was at some pt 'tomservo'
asciilifeform: seems to have grasped various points as he lurked.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in castles, 1 of diana_coman's students has some imho some notbad pieces on his www.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:44:39 mircea_popescu: anyway, vaguely interesting orc couple. he (adrian), minor philosophist wanna-be, writing twice a decade minuscule nothings ("what is not existence", 1994). she, mirela, doing ~exactly~ nothing. both born in the periphery, mid 50s, exactly another inginer-profesoara couple like so very many at the time.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: aha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these new 'spies' aint tryin to bring back seekritz, but instead simply spread rot, a sort of bipedal smallpox blanket. seems to work
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 10:44:58 mircea_popescu: and so ongoing -- in case you were wondering why bologna is such lulz, or why feminism is such a nothing, or so forth. all a concoction of convenience ; we enslaved all their good spies back in 1992, and well... all that's left is all that's left, a different flavour of [http://trilema.com/2011/serviciul-nemuririi-partea-i/#comment-131551][institutionalized w
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:23:44 mircea_popescu: damn, rating > 1. so 2 trhough 10 inclusive.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 06:27:44 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yup, was the cap.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:37:00 hanbot: !!key hanbot_abroad
mircea_popescu: !!rate hanbot_abroad 2 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937858
hanbot: ^mircea_popescu
hanbot: !!key hanbot_abroad
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:36:17 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: mine is diana_alt
mircea_popescu: !!rate diana_alt 2 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1937852
diana_coman: !!key diana_alt
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: mine is diana_alt
mircea_popescu: !!rate mp_en_viaje 2 my travel key.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: doh; lol.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, that's it exactly, im also running a slutteria here among other things
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: I think this issue with self-voice vs lordship comes from #trilema being both republican halls (ie lords discussion) and your own training halls (hence nicoleci's problem to self-voice if only-9 can do it);
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: isn't bvt lord verschlimmbessert?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:14:26 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937508 << no, rating of 9 specifically, able to self-voice.
bvt: mircea_popescu: i.e., in this context my rating remains +2, hence no self-voice in #trilema?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other luzl, check out diana_coman being a prophet in her own country
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 07:01:56 mircea_popescu: of course, this could readily also bear the alternative interepretation of "there is nothing the rater WISHES TO SAY".
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: is there some eta/requirement on/for the castle-licensing thing? on my part I'm fine with it as stated.
mircea_popescu: !!rate mp_en_viaje 9 my travel key.
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=14t_
mircea_popescu: it'll benefit the nooblets immensely if they seriously spend some time groking the "turn" thing. there's a time for everything ; and for most things that time isn't NOW.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: yes, but not sure I see the point of "unset"; it's 0
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, traditionally setting it to 0 is how you unset it.
mircea_popescu: !!rate ben_vulpes 1 used to be the Lord of the Well, but meanwhile http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934268
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=D__w
mircea_popescu: !!rate diana_coman 9 her ladyship the marquess eulora.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 05:14:26 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937508 << no, rating of 9 specifically, able to self-voice.
billymg: mircea_popescu: i could be completely missing the point though, i'm still not very familiar with pingbacks outside of the small bit i've read since you mentioned it
billymg: http://billymg.com/2019/09/additional-tests-for-mp-wp-now-according-to-spec/comment-page-1/#comment-49 << mircea_popescu: i now see what you mean about the pingbacks supporting the extra selection parameters but i'm still not sure what is meant by "trashing the whole trilema trackback pile as extant, and having them re-done in the new manner"
mod6: mircea_popescu: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=QF_3 (for mp_en_viaje)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: normally i get ~0 comments for weeks on end on my www; then in 1 day half dozen, and remembered 'could actually keep track if had recent-comments...'
mod6: mircea_popescu: Ok Sir, just re-encypted to mp_en_viaje for ya; http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=wTRb
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same as the brits did, neh. no one picked up an' walked way with india
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: betcha it's a dead cap.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i fully expect that early 2000s mb's will do decade+ unless one hammers nails with'em
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if not a mega-seekrit , what was it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how many yrs do you typically get out of those mobos ?
mod6: mircea_popescu: oh no! sorry to hear about the mobo. not an emergency at all. in a rush atm, will re-send later, no worries. :]
mircea_popescu: anyway, will replace the system during this week ; if it's an emergency/not that important re-encrypt to mp_en_viaje ; if not i'll see then.
lobbes: incidentally, mircea_popescu with your permission I would like to bring the bot into #trilema during the next week for further testing (it wouldn't need voice; just needs to quietly sit in background). I'd like to see how it handles a heavier log-load
lobbes: mircea_popescu: pls to let me know if you'd like the formatting tweaked. Both in terms of the textual output of log lines as well as the url format, and title format.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-22 16:37:18 lobbes: With that out of the way it has been going smoothly, and I'm mainly making up for lost time now. It would seem I'm on track to hit my deadline though. I will probably have some demo output for mircea_popescu to look at by the end of the day
billymg: anyway, ima swing by diana_coman's castle since there seems to be a cr convoy thread building over there
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-18 16:09:47 mircea_popescu: shall say what had in mind on man's blog
mod6: mircea_popescu: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=dtwG
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-22 12:57:32 mircea_popescu: you should have seen that dork, he creeped up to us while we were watching some locals zumba and all schmoozey "what is this ?"